How much visual difference is there on viewing a game on a 40" screen vs. the VR gear?

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They show in those video of what you would have seen inside the VR headset.

So I look at that screen, don't you get about the same thing if you use a UHD 40" screen?

and the other question is, is VR gear harmful to your eyes?

In this video, I like the first 30 sec. of those robot fighting. But don't we have the same visual experience on a UHD screen?

 
Its much more immersive.

Probably no good large scale data on chronic eye effects, so no one can give you a great answer on that, even if they say they can.
 
They show in those video of what you would have seen inside the VR headset.

So I look at that screen, don't you get about the same thing if you use a UHD 40" screen?

and the other question is, is VR gear harmful to your eyes?

In this video, I like the first 30 sec. of those robot fighting. But don't we have the same visual experience on a UHD screen?



Look. A 2D experience is like watching a picture, or photograph. You are outside, and you see something in front of you. VR, on the other hand, put you IN the picture. You are simply part of it. Why? Because you can feel the deepness around you.

It's on a totally different level. You can't compare them.
 
Look. A 2D experience is like watching a picture, or photograph. You are outside, and you see something in front of you. VR, on the other hand, put you IN the picture. You are simply part of it. Why? Because you can feel the deepness around you.

It's on a totally different level. You can't compare them.

Sex robots & VR, welcome to 2016.
 
They show in those video of what you would have seen inside the VR headset.

So I look at that screen, don't you get about the same thing if you use a UHD 40" screen?
Take a 1080p 40" screen and move your head very close to it such that its hard to see the edges without moving your head left/right.
You probably wont be able to focus on the TV because you will be too close.
The lenses in the VR headset make the screen appear further away so you can focus but it still fills the major part of your vision almost entirely.

The actual res per eye of current VR headsets is almost 1/2 that of 1080p so imagine it will look more pixelated.
It will be a bit worse because it is properly in focus in the headset, looking at your 40" screen that close will mask the pixelation due to blurring of your vision.
Worse still, the gaps between pixels appear large making it harder to imagine the dots as a seamless image. This is called the screen door effect.

Fortunately, the immersion allows the mind to ignore the dots so it doesnt matter anywhere near as much as you would think.
The low res doesnt make it a good tool for watching full HD movies but for VR its just about ok.

and the other question is, is VR gear harmful to your eyes?

Probably not to your eyes but your brain may develop a temporary inverse matrix shadowing the screen door effect.
ie the screen door effect may persist in your real life vision.
This is because the inter pixel gaps/lines appear in the same place all the time, they are not moving so their effect builds up.
Some people have complained of this problem.

How bad it is will depend on many factors, not limited to...
* How your brain/eyes react to it. If you have clearer vision, it could make it worse.
* How long you use the headset for and how often.
* Whether you manage to place the headset at EXACTLY the same position. The closer you get to the same position, the sharper the perceived burn in effect. Plasma TVs suffer in a similar (but more permanent) way and one method to reduce it was to shift the image around a few pixels so the same strength output was spread over a larger area.
* Whether you are in a brighter or darker area after using the headset.
etc.
 
Nenu, that sounds like a lawsuit to facebook

Regardless, look, I don't want to risk any brain or eyes injury for a game. That's crazy. I shouldn't need to worry about this. The manufacturers of VR, such as fracebook, should make sure this kind of things doesn't happen.

I mean, we are not using VR for any important reason, it's just a game. I'm willing to try it out once, but for long term use, even for some of the health issues you mention, it's not worth it for anyone.
 
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I wish to stress that only some people have complained of the problem.
Its not many.
Perhaps I should have used the term "a few".

But it is something to keep your eye on :p
I would pre-order whichever one you fancy and by the time it is due to be delivered (months away) you can make your mind up and cancel if you so wish.
Otherwise it will be a long wait to get one.
 
Nenu, that sounds like a lawsuit to facebook

Regardless, look, I don't want to risk any brain or eyes injury for a game. That's crazy. I shouldn't need to worry about this. The manufacturers of VR, such as fracebook, should make sure this kind of things doesn't happen.

I mean, we are not using VR for any important reason, it's just a game. I'm willing to try it out once, but for long term use, even for some of the health issues you mention, it's not worth it for anyone.

Then you shouldn't be playing video games at all. Too many health issues related to normal video game sessions as it is.
 
Nenu, that sounds like a lawsuit to facebook

Regardless, look, I don't want to risk any brain or eyes injury for a game. That's crazy. I shouldn't need to worry about this. The manufacturers of VR, such as fracebook, should make sure this kind of things doesn't happen.

I mean, we are not using VR for any important reason, it's just a game. I'm willing to try it out once, but for long term use, even for some of the health issues you mention, it's not worth it for anyone.

This is probably a good reason to get right off the computer or mobile device you used to make this post. Monitors are bad for your eyes, and using a PC or television for recreational use is just destructive.
 
Then you shouldn't be playing video games at all. Too many health issues related to normal video game sessions as it is.

well, within reasons. You can't mix apple and orange. VR is a new toy, you & I don't know the seriousness of the health damage. Clearly, there is no long term study on this. I have the $ to buy such a toy, but if the risk is unacceptable, then I'll pass. Further, I went to the above link, don't see any PC games. And I don't want to buy a playstation to play VR game. I'll buy a VR gear if there are a lot of PC titles, and that the VR gear support PC
 
The point of VR headgear is the ability to physically move your head to move the camera angle in-game. Doing so on a 40" screen and you'll eventually not be looking at the TV anymore.
 
not if you strap the 40" screen to your head :p
 
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