New Skylake Xeon E3's, C236 mini ITX

If you're going for E3 in itx why use the server board if those are going to be supported by any other board now? ECC might also be possible in normal board bios since the controller is on a cpu.
 
SaperPL said:
If you're going for E3 in itx why use the server board if those are going to be supported by any other board now? ECC might also be possible in normal board bios since the controller is on a cpu.
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The motherboard still needs the ECC traces from CPU to DIMM slots, regardless of the IMC.
 
I'm not sure but aren't you confusing registered/buffered memory with ECC itself?

I think ECC parity bit is extending the frame/packet from 8 to 9 bits not the electrical bus width like with ECCR/buffered ram where parity check is low level thus the bus width jumps from 64 to 72 bits / 128 to 144 bits and there really is physical difference.

The other thing is whether chipsets support it or not but since memory controller is integrated in cpu now then I'm not sure if that's the case at all.
 
It seemed with the Xeon E3 V3 (Haswell, also IMC) that chipset support was still required - at least that was the information communicated to me by Asrock when I was inquiring regarding Z97 vs C226, as was confirmation on tracing being needed... but it's possible they assumed I was referring to registered ECC memory in my inquiries.

EDIT - Apparently the discussion is moot, as there is a paragraph here indiating the Xeon V5's may be locked to server boards specifically:

http://anandtech.com/show/9730/intel-launches-greenlow-c236-chipset-and-skylake-e31200-v5-xeons

It does explain why the Skylake i3's have ECC support though.
 
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Thanks for this info.

What a total crap from intel. I just don't get their decision making.

They're forcing us to pay more for integrated gpu's we're not going to use anyway when buying i7. At the same time some who's buying lower end cpu - pentium/i3 won't get the edram performance boost for integrated gpu.

With my E3-1230v2 I saved almost 100 bucks on not buying i7-3700 while people were still not sure whether the cpu will work properly with customer grade boards. On v3 intel already started closing the price gap between E3 and i7 so it wouldn't matter either to them at this point if they made them priced the same.
 
I'm talking about the opposite - The Xeon E3 pick was good route for not paying for the integrated gpu because most of them don't have the igp. I'm talking about that we don't have that choice in core family. There were some minor released units without the gpu but I think there wasn't any i7 model like that.

Essentially intel is forcing consumers to pay for igp to increase their gpu market share even if most of us don't use them. The more annoying thing is that there are no notebooks with edram boosted igp's without the dedicated nvidia gpu except for apple macbook air. So essentially whole intel igp family is pile of crap we're paying for and not using because we want intel cpu cores.
 
Just get the ASRock X99 ITX board? It has everything including ECC support and you can overclock a number of the Xeons on that board.
 
spencers said:
Mmmm. 8 onboard SATA ports... Nice NAS board!
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THIS!

8 SATA ports is the biggest thing going for this board. I am looking at building a NAS / Windows Media Center Server machine in a Silverstone CS01-HS. If I want 6 storage drives, plus a OS SSD, then I need a board that supports more than 6 SATA ports. That is exceedingly rare in the miniITX board space. In fact the only other boards I have seen it on is some Avoton boards, and I want a better processor since I might have to drive 2-3 media center extenders at once.
 
Could this motherboard be used if im getting Xeon for a gaming/workload computer? Like does it have heatsinks over MOSFETs or the proper cooling to use as a gaming board? It looks good but im making sure before I get it because I have a Xeon v5 on the way
 
So no opinion on if this could be used a gaming Xeon build? Im a completely noob with Xeon/their motherboards..like does it have the proper heatsinks if I used this mainly as a gaming/minor workload board? Sorry if its a complete idiotic question lol.
 
NovaFan said:
So no opinion on if this could be used a gaming Xeon build? Im a completely noob with Xeon/their motherboards..like does it have the proper heatsinks if I used this mainly as a gaming/minor workload board? Sorry if its a complete idiotic question lol.
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I havent seen many heatsinks on server/ws motherboards in general, and those should be having a higher workload then the average gamer, so I'm guessing those heatsinks on gaming oriented motherboards are just gimmicks..
 
Thanks for the replay killer, Thats why I figured too. I got a amazing deal on a Intel Xeon E3-1240 v5 and I need a mini itx motherboard for it. Its my first Xeon build so im a novice on alot of things about them. So you think this C236 WSI is a legit motherboard to use for gaming? I figured it was but im double checking.
 
NovaFan said:
Thanks for the replay killer, Thats why I figured too. I got a amazing deal on a Intel Xeon E3-1240 v5 and I need a mini itx motherboard for it. Its my first Xeon build so im a novice on alot of things about them. So you think this C236 WSI is a legit motherboard to use for gaming? I figured it was but im double checking.
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Only things that would bother me are the lack of optical out for audio and no m.2 slot. Everything else is fine though. It should prove to be more stable than your general i7-z170 combo especially if you go ECC memory for it.
 
No M.2 is kind of a bummer but I can accept that and im using headphones so no optical out for audio wont affect me so I was really intrigued by this motherboard.

Is the silver lining piece with 2 screws to the right of the GPU some kind of heatsink for the MOSFETs?
Im trying to figure out the lay out of the board.
 
What's the advantage of M.2 ? I just noticed my own motherboard has it, but I don't actually know what it is
 
You can connect fast SSDs or Wifi cards to it. It is essentially a small PCIe link. The SSDs available for m.2 can therefore be small and most of them are faster than a SATA ssd. :)
 
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