Map Shows All Writs Act Orders For Assistance From Tech Companies

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The American Civil Liberties Union has put together an interactive map of 63 cases where Apple and Google have received orders from the government to assist in unlocking phones. You can click on each state in the interactive map to see exactly what each request was for, including links to the subpoenas.
 
They Disproportionately use Bitcoin too...

We should ban I-phones and Bitcoins...... and U.S. Currency and the Get-away cars..

Wait were they wearing clothes also? We should ban Clothes since Criminals used those too..

(Sarcasm at its best)

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I want to see the map with the non-tech related All Writs Act court orders and the other ways the act is used.
 
Might be a bit misleading. My state isn't on the list and there's many cases for unlocking iPhones. One specifically was waiting to see how the current Apple VS FBI one went so it's possible that no order has been given. yet.
 
Quix said:
Has anyone noticed that criminals seem to disproportionately use iPhones?
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Probably more about phone tech. iPhones encrypt by default. Android Phones don't and almost no one actually encrypts their Android phone.

So nearly every iPhone they recover will be encrypted almost no Android phone would be.

They need help with the iPhone, and most Android phones are easy pickings, except for the occasional criminal with enough brains to encrypt his phone.
 
Good ole Nebraska and the Midwest. Staying insignificant and out of the way :)
 
I started looking at several of those court orders, all examples of court orders issued under the All Writs Acts. I started seeing several that were filed back in 2011, on older iPhones, and on phones other than iPhones. It starts becoming clear that claims that the court or the FBI dug up this old law and just recently started using it or that they had to result to this law just for this case start looking really false. While the ACLU and others are digging up old case documents through the FOIA and trying to show abuse, they are actually shooting holes in their own misinformation campaign.

I really do want to see uses of the All Writs Act over the last 20 years on cases that do not involve tech or phones.

I am finding some interesting links that start to show that the All Writs Act isn't really a dusty old law that was drug out of the legal cellar to for Apple into doing the unthinkable.

https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Green-Bag-All-Writs-and-the-Military.pdf

http://apps.americanbar.org/litigation/committees/commercial/docs/gratis_federalism.pdf

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What it's starting to look like is that in fact, this very old law is in fact a bedrock law that has been used for over a hundred years and is frequently the authority by which all Federal Courts establish and extend their purview given their limited jurisdiction relative to State cases.

In short, any time a State is dealing with a very complicated case and the Federal Government decides it's time to step in because the cases has significance well beyond that State, it's the All Writs Act that is their vehicle.
 
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I still don't see what the issue is these are all criminal cases mostly related to drug/child trafficking not sure why it should be an issue to have the phones unlocked.
 
thedocta45 said:
I still don't see what the issue is these are all criminal cases mostly related to drug/child trafficking not sure why it should be an issue to have the phones unlocked.
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Well, the issue is that many people feel the Federal Government has gone too far when it comes to citizen's privacy rights. Many are still pissed off about the NSA etc. Apple has, at a minimum seen a marketing angel to exploit, and at most, has decided to be a force for Privacy Rights. They have been working hard they say to make their products as secure as they can, even to the point that data on the phones can't be extracted at all, inviolate.

This recent case with Apple has brought things well into the light for All Americans. Apple has made strong claims that this court order is wrong on many levels, that it would have a far reaching impact. It's been a full court press PR campaign and for many people Apple is right and the Government is wrong.

Many of the phones in these cases linked to the map are phones that shouldn't actually be hard to lock. In fact, I suspect that most of them were already unlocked and these are just evidence that the All Writs Act was used in the cases.

It looks to me like the ACLU is trying to paint a picture that shows the government has been systematically using this Law over the last few years as a new tool and that it is being illegally applied.

It's obvious that some people will agree. I have been looking at it because I really don't trust much of what the media and others pull together and make claims on. I've seen them lie and misrepresent too much over the last several years to accept much of what they say at face value.

Many people read what I say on this site and interpret it as me defending the government. Usually I am not, usually I am just calling out the media on their bullshit. But some people really don't like someone beating on their favorite bullshit.
 
lcpiper said:
Well, the issue is that many people feel the Federal Government has gone too far when it comes to citizen's privacy rights. Many are still pissed off about the NSA etc. Apple has, at a minimum seen a marketing angel to exploit, and at most, has decided to be a force for Privacy Rights. They have been working hard they say to make their products as secure as they can, even to the point that data on the phones can't be extracted at all, inviolate.

This recent case with Apple has brought things well into the light for All Americans. Apple has made strong claims that this court order is wrong on many levels, that it would have a far reaching impact. It's been a full court press PR campaign and for many people Apple is right and the Government is wrong.

Many of the phones in these cases linked to the map are phones that shouldn't actually be hard to lock. In fact, I suspect that most of them were already unlocked and these are just evidence that the All Writs Act was used in the cases.

It looks to me like the ACLU is trying to paint a picture that shows the government has been systematically using this Law over the last few years as a new tool and that it is being illegally applied.

It's obvious that some people will agree. I have been looking at it because I really don't trust much of what the media and others pull together and make claims on. I've seen them lie and misrepresent too much over the last several years to accept much of what they say at face value.

Many people read what I say on this site and interpret it as me defending the government. Usually I am not, usually I am just calling out the media on their bullshit. But some people really don't like someone beating on their favorite bullshit.
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I don't think the government is overstepping there bounds, they are legally getting a search warrant for the device, as far as I am concerned when you break the social contract you should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. It would be different if the government was just hacking the phones without any court orders but this is clearly not the case.
 
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