Insignia 4k 43" Roku + HDMI 4:4:4 (Cheap and 4:4:4)

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Just saw this over at Best Buy online, the interesting part is that the first HDMI port is labeled "UHD (4:4:4)" I'm going to order one to see what it's like. The 43 inch is going for about $400, well below anything else I've seen in this price range with 4:4:4.
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Good find. Please report back with your impressions and confirmation of 4k 4:4:4 at 60Hz.

EDIT: I'm also curious if this is an IPS or VA panel.
 
kabobi said:
Good find. Please report back with your impressions and confirmation of 4k 4:4:4 at 60Hz.

EDIT: I'm also curious if this is an IPS or VA panel.
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The specs on the page show native contrast max 4000 so this implies VA. Might make a nice RPG monitor if it does 4:4:4 and the input lag isn't 300ms.
 
somebody go buy one so I don't have to! Report back today with pics or else!
 
Other questions are is it hdcp 2.2 (and on how many inputs) and 60hz. Why dont companies just have their freaking specs available?

I want to buy this for a monitor too. If I ever bought one of these connected devices for use as a tv, I would want to have a way to turn off the spying; or know about it at least.
 
As wildpig said, it won't be available in stores till March 23rd (At least where I live). Really curious to see if it's got reasonable input lag (Under 30ms) and is PWM free. If it does then this ticks all the boxes for what I've been looking for in a 4k display (60Hz with 4:4:4, PWM free, under 30ms input lag, VA Panel).
 
MistaSparkul said:
As wildpig said, it won't be available in stores till March 23rd (At least where I live). Really curious to see if it's got reasonable input lag (Under 30ms) and is PWM free. If it does then this ticks all the boxes for what I've been looking for in a 4k display (60Hz with 4:4:4, PWM free, under 30ms input lag, VA Panel).
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This is a tall order, if it checks off all of these options it would be a diamond in the rough. I would not count on PWM free under 100 brightness.
 
DooLocsta said:
This is a tall order, if it checks off all of these options it would be a diamond in the rough. I would not count on PWM free under 100 brightness.
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More like a diamond straight out of the haystack. At $400, too.
 
DooLocsta said:
This is a tall order, if it checks off all of these options it would be a diamond in the rough. I would not count on PWM free under 100 brightness.
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The Sony 4k TV 43X830C actually meets all those requirements except for the input lag figure which is around 38ms. I have a Samsung 28D590D which has an input lag figure of 35ms and I found it to be too high for me personally so I'd need something under 30ms. Otherwise I would've gotten the Sony and called it a day.
 
MistaSparkul said:
The Sony 4k TV 43X830C actually meets all those requirements except for the input lag figure which is around 38ms. I have a Samsung 28D590D which has an input lag figure of 35ms and I found it to be too high for me personally so I'd need something under 30ms. Otherwise I would've gotten the Sony and called it a day.
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The Sony is horrible, speaking as a former owner. It was one of many sets I purchased and returned during the great hell that was trying to find a reasonably priced 4K TV for use as a monitor.

It's overpriced (I think I paid $800 just a few months ago, though it may have come down since then), has terrible contrast to the point of everything looking washed out (it's an IPS panel, and a bad one), and while I love Android TV as a concept (I'm a huge fan of Android in general) it was very poorly implemented.

Startup times were insane, and the set would crash at random -- running apps, being used as a monitor, it didn't seem to matter what I was doing. When it crashed you had to actually pull the plug for a second, then wait through the stupid long boot-up process again. Especially frustrating when playing something fast paced like League Of Legends, which I was really in to at the time.

It also wouldn't remember which input you left it on, so every time you turned it on / woke it from sleep you had to get the remote and switch back to the right input.

I really wanted to like the X830C... but it's just a bad device.
 
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MistaSparkul said:
The Sony 4k TV 43X830C actually meets all those requirements except for the input lag figure which is around 38ms. I have a Samsung 28D590D which has an input lag figure of 35ms and I found it to be too high for me personally so I'd need something under 30ms. Otherwise I would've gotten the Sony and called it a day.
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I've read the contrast and glare on this TV are really quite bad.
 
would this work with a displayport -> HDMI adapter from a video card that doesn't have HDMI 2.0?
 
karsten said:
would this work with a displayport -> HDMI adapter from a video card that doesn't have HDMI 2.0?
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It should, however we still have no idea what input lag is like on this model (it could be terrible, 200+ms for all we know, there are worse out there after all) so no point worrying about it until we know more.

However, if you end up using an adapter you may be limited in color depth by the adapter itself -- the Club3D adapter only supports 4:4:4 4K@60Hz at 8bit color. You have to drop down to 30Hz to maintain 4:4:4 with 10 and 12 bit color. Shouldn't be an issue for gaming, though.
 
silent-circuit said:
The Sony is horrible, speaking as a former owner. It was one of many sets I purchased and returned during the great hell that was trying to find a reasonably priced 4K TV for use as a monitor.

It's overpriced (I think I paid $800 just a few months ago, though it may have come down since then), has terrible contrast to the point of everything looking washed out (it's an IPS panel, and a bad one), and while I love Android TV as a concept (I'm a huge fan of Android in general) it was very poorly implemented.

Startup times were insane, and the set would crash at random -- running apps, being used as a monitor, it didn't seem to matter what I was doing. When it crashed you had to actually pull the plug for a second, then wait through the stupid long boot-up process again. Especially frustrating when playing something fast paced like League Of Legends, which I was really in to at the time.

It also wouldn't remember which input you left it on, so every time you turned it on / woke it from sleep you had to get the remote and switch back to the right input.

I really wanted to like the X830C... but it's just a bad device.
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Ah I had no idea it was IPS, thought the larger models were the IPS screens. Yeah I kinda figured using a TV as a monitor may result in some issues. What display are you using now as a large format 4k screen? I actually wanted to try a 32 inch VA panel first since I don't have the desk space for a 40 inch but since no options exists for that screen size I'm stuck looking at 40 inch screens.
 
MistaSparkul said:
Ah I had no idea it was IPS, thought the larger models were the IPS screens. Yeah I kinda figured using a TV as a monitor may result in some issues. What display are you using now as a large format 4k screen? I actually wanted to try a 32 inch VA panel first since I don't have the desk space for a 40 inch but since no options exists for that screen size I'm stuck looking at 40 inch screens.
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I ended up with the Dell U3415W 34" 21:9 monitor, which runs 3440x1440 @ 60Hz. It is also an IPS panel, but a very good one, unlike the Sony.
 
Yo think one of these and an XFX 390x would be a good 4k upgrade as a desktop monitor? Looks like it would be around $800 to do. Viewing distance would be about 30".
 
I wouldn't think a 390x, or any single GPU, would be good for gaming on 4K . Any other use would be fine though.
 
Skott said:
I wouldn't think a 390x, or any single GPU, would be good for gaming on 4K . Any other use would be fine though.
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This. 4K is brutal. I'm running 3440x1440 which is significantly fewer pixels and I still have to run a fairly heavy CPU/RAM/GPU OC to keep above 60 FPS in some titles with 980Ti SLI -- The Witcher 3 and Rise of the Tomb Raider, for example. A single 390X won't even keep you above 30 FPS in those titles at 4K.
 
TechLarry said:
Yo think one of these and an XFX 390x would be a good 4k upgrade as a desktop monitor? Looks like it would be around $800 to do. Viewing distance would be about 30".
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Skott said:
I wouldn't think a 390x, or any single GPU, would be good for gaming on 4K . Any other use would be fine though.
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The games that you can run well look beautiful on a big screen in 4K, though. If you play any Civ or Paradox games - wow. You can also run games at regular resolutions in borderless windowed mode on a proportional part of the screen. Pixel pitch is about equivalent to (and slightly better than) a 24" at 1080p. If the input lag on this thing is any good, it'll be a no-brainer at $400.
 
Zohar78 said:
Sony X830C Review (XBR43X830C, XBR49X830C) Sadly sony fubbed that one. That was the size and price range im looking at for a tv/pc monitor. Im going to try to step up to a sammy js8500 with my taxes.. Hopeing i can.
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I've heard from quite a few people here that the JU6700 / 7100 are also good options. I had a JU6600 and HATED it, so much blur, but people claim the others are worlds better.
 
Ohhh this is the one with 4K roku onboard too. Would like to see what this TV does on input lag, might be a contender to replace my grandpa Seiki.

It might be a good set judging by the gumpy stand. It always seems like the cheap ones with good features/performance get gimped in some manner. Hoping it's that stand in this case.

While I'm on my soapbox, it's utter BS that we on PC still don't get 4K streaming from Netflix or Amazon but a budget $400 TV with built in roku does!
 
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gunbust3r said:
While I'm on my soapbox, it's utter BS that we on PC still don't get 4K streaming from Netflix or Amazon but a budget $400 TV with built in roku does!
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It's a lot more difficult to break encryption / copy a 4K stream on a shitty smart TV than a PC. That's the only reason they're holding off on PC support, and honestly, I don't see it changing any time soon.
 
silent-circuit said:
It's a lot more difficult to break encryption / copy a 4K stream on a shitty smart TV than a PC. That's the only reason they're holding off on PC support, and honestly, I don't see it changing any time soon.
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They already have HDMI "splitters" that strip out HDCP so you could record from a Nvidia Shield or any other 4K streamer at this point. The only reason I can see for still locking PC out is that people would actually use it and they would have a tremendous bandwidth consumption spike to deal with.
 
I'm going first thing in the morning to buy one and check it out making sure I can get my $440 dollars back the same day if it sucks.
 
Looking forward to your findings. I was looking for <$300 1080 TVs for my GFs house, I might just cover the jump to this one.
 
SixFootDuo said:
I'm going first thing in the morning to buy one and check it out making sure I can get my $440 dollars back the same day if it sucks.
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At Best Buy? As someone who bought and returned like... 8 or 9 4K TVs in the span of about 2 months? Yes. Yes you can.
 
Update:

I went in a little after 10am to ask about the new Insignia 43" 4k Roku I was given a couple of blank stares. I finally asked a few more questions and they walked me over to the PC to look it up. Was told the regional warehouse has it and that I could order it now and have it on the 23rd. I then said, if they warehouse has it, it's going to show up in the stores any day.

Was told the entire kansas city kansas and kansas city mo district does not have it at any of the stores, which is around 10+ Best Buys I'm guessing.

It's possible some other area's across the US have it. Hard to say.

From the sound of it, most warehouses do have it in stock. It's possible it will be an online only order item for the next few weeks until they get sufficient stock. The dept manager told me this. He also said they are starting to mark down 2015 TV sets now but when I looked at the 2015 Samsung 4k, they were still showing normal pricing.

Hope this helps.

I am looking for something cheap and fantastic. Lets hope this set has excellent latency.
 
There is a major problem with his review. The set wasn't available anywhere on the 16th when his review was written. He is just a fake bs hater is all. Basically he is lying.
 
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