Teen Charged For Stealing Nude Photo From Teacher’s Phone

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The kid is obviously in the wrong here, but why are people dumb enough to leave things like nudes unsecured on something that is so easily accessible by others? She didn’t even use a lock screen?

On February 18, Arthur had left her phone on her classroom desk when she went to go monitor the halls. She taught mechatronics -- mechanical engineering, electrical engineering and computer programming. She came back after a few minutes, but that was all it took for a 16-year-old student to allegedly look at the pictures on her phone, find one that showed her partially unclothed, photograph it and post that image online.
 
While unbelievably dumb to leave a phone unlocked, the worst part is the school firing her over it and doing nothing about the little twat. The kid is being charge separately from the school, this is just a criminal proceeding, the school has still taken no action against the kid. When this blew up, on the news, the school started backing off and made overtones of offering her job back, she rightly said she wouldn't want to go back and work for such a place. That all said, people lock down your phones and if you are a forgetful idiot, put the thing on a lanyard of something. I hope she sues the school as well, too many effete bitches working in administration that don't back teachers and react like idiots whenever anything happens.
 
I really don't blame the school for not going after the teen. I always hated hearing about how the school gets involved when law enforcement does to, that's basically double jeopardy.
 
Firing the teacher is total BS. Yes, she should have locked her phone (and not because she hada semi-nude picture on it), but she didn't do anything wrong.
 
Teacher didn't do anything remotely wrong. It's was her property. Having nude photos of yourself is not illegal and it's not like the phone was set as her wallpaper. This POS teen had to go into her gallery and locate the picture.
 
Teaches ME, EE, and Programming, but doesn't know to lock her phone?

This thread needs more face palm.

Sure the kid is bad, guilty, and deserves punishment, but what she did is the equivalent of leaving your front door unlocked while you're not home and being surprised that someone went in and went through your shit.
 
Anyone else more surprised by the fact the school teaches engineering? When I read that, I figured it was a UK school or something.

What the f are they thinking polluting our youth with useful work skills! :)
 
ChoGGi said:
Programmers != Sysadmins :)
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Seriously this cannot be emphasized enough. I made a fair bit of money fixing other CS major's computers in college. Even now as a jaded old ass, I still find that most programmers don't know squat about hardware or anything system related. Even defining hardware resources needed to run applications they wrote is outside the abilities of a lot of programmers.
 
Being anti Adblock I was treated to a fantastic ad on CNets site. A phone touting its two front facing cameras for double the selfie power.

Teacher shouldn't have been fired at all. It was silly of her to not have it locked, but frankly I don't think there are any rules saying people need to lock their electronics if they don't want to. Shit bag student deserves to be charged though.
 
Did the school have a policy requiring personal devices to be locked? If not I think firing her is bullshit. If her phone was on school wifi they should have been at least using mobile device management solutions to require a password...
 
fdiaz78 said:
Doesn't matter if it was locked or not. The phone was private property. He had no business touching it.
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If the school had a policy that all devices need to be locked, they can easily fire her for simply not locking the phone.
 
Ocellaris said:
If the school had a policy that all devices need to be locked, they can easily fire her for simply not locking the phone.
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Doubtful and school district counsel should be fired if they green lit the firing. This will cost the district money. I hope she sues the parents of the teen for loss of wages and damages
 
Teacher is hot though. I had nothing but sickly old ladies or fat blobs as teachers in high school.
 
Suing for wrongful dismissal in 3...2...1...

I bet the pic didn't even show anying, maybe a boob at most. It's sad that the actions of one student can cost a teacher her job. It's not like she was advertising this pic on social nedua, or showing her students. It's not all that different than a student going through her purse and finding something emarrasing...

I can't imagine what was going through that student's mind. He would have been better off keeping the pic for himself...
 
nilepez said:
Firing the teacher is total BS. Yes, she should have locked her phone (and not because she hada semi-nude picture on it), but she didn't do anything wrong.
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She has warped his fragile little mind by exposing him to unwanted nudity... think of the children!
 
Wrongful termination lawsuit in 3...2....

Seriously though, I think her lawyers will have a field day with this. Even if the school claims that she had inappropriate material on her phone, it's actually ON HER PHONE, there took some manner of a student who used something that wasn't his to get to those pictures.

On top of everything though, I'm also filing a lawsuit against the student & his parents, and depending upon the laws of the state push the DA to charge the student as an adult with knowing re-transmitting nude photos of her, I'm sure a few areas enacted laws after that whole Fappening fiasco.
 
Ultima99 said:
but what she did is the equivalent of leaving your front door unlocked while you're not home and being surprised that someone went in and went through your shit.
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Let's follow through with that straw man fallacy. If she left the front door of her house unlocked, and the student trespassed into her house and found physical copes of the photos in question inside the house and shared it with his friends, would she be getting slut shamed by her workplace?
 
Good. Considering it cost her her job, it's well deserved. I think it's stupid that people leave naked pictures of themselves lying around, but it's not like she purposely shared them either.
 
Ultima99 said:
Teaches ME, EE, and Programming, but doesn't know to lock her phone?
This thread needs more face palm.
Sure the kid is bad, guilty, and deserves punishment, but what she did is the equivalent of leaving your front door unlocked while you're not home and being surprised that someone went in and went through your shit.
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No, it's the equivalent of leaving your door unlocked, having someone go through your shit and being fired for it.
 
nilepez said:
No, it's the equivalent of leaving your door unlocked, having someone go through your shit and being fired for it.
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Agreed.

The kids were in the wrong. Just because you are dumb to take nude pictures of yourself in the first place, let alone leave them unsecured doesnt mean you don't deserve your privacy.

This line of reasoning is equivalent to blaming someone who forgot to lock their front door for being the victim of a burglary.

Sure, it would have been smarter to lock the door, but the criminal who broke in is always the one at fault. No exceptions.
 
I see people seemed to miss one small part of the story. She let her students use her phone during class. So she was handing her phone over completely unlocked with with these pictures (or picture) over to her students. That is why the school took a problem with this. It wasn't that these pictures existed in the first place, but that she was handing them over to students without any thought to it for a period of time.

I am not sure why any student should need to use her phone but when they are allowed one should not assume that kids aren't going to poke around. Given we have no idea what they use it for, maybe taking pictures of projects and texting / emailing them to yourself is a common use.

So kid could haven taken a picture, went to retrieve it and noticed the one of her partly nude. No where did the article say he stole the phone, just that she was in the hall when he found and uploaded the picture
 
Exavior said:
I see people seemed to miss one small part of the story. She let her students use her phone during class. So she was handing her phone over completely unlocked with with these pictures (or picture) over to her students. That is why the school took a problem with this. It wasn't that these pictures existed in the first place, but that she was handing them over to students without any thought to it for a period of time.

I am not sure why any student should need to use her phone but when they are allowed one should not assume that kids aren't going to poke around. Given we have no idea what they use it for, maybe taking pictures of projects and texting / emailing them to yourself is a common use.

So kid could haven taken a picture, went to retrieve it and noticed the one of her partly nude. No where did the article say he stole the phone, just that she was in the hall when he found and uploaded the picture
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She said when she returned, the kid told her that her day of reckoning was coming. I don't think he was just grabbing it to use for a project. We also don't have any evidence that she let the students use the phone during the time that the pic was on there.
 
brentsg said:
She said when she returned, the kid told her that her day of reckoning was coming. I don't think he was just grabbing it to use for a project. We also don't have any evidence that she let the students use the phone during the time that the pic was on there.
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Ah but precedent is a tricky fucker. Lets say that I let you borrow my car all the time with and without asking. Then one day your borrow without asking and crash it. I then try to say you stole it. The fact you borrowed it a few hundred times before and I was fine with that makes a theft charge hard to make stick. Same here, without knowing guidelines for borrowing the phone even if he was the first to use it during the time there is still nothing that shows evidence that he shouldn't have had access to it and that nobody under normal behavior couldn't have been able to see the pictures.

Don't get me wrong, I think the firing is stupid regardless. Just saying that there could be precedent set into play that sides with it not being stealing
 
jasondhsd said:
Teacher didn't do anything remotely wrong. It's was her property. Having nude photos of yourself is not illegal and it's not like the phone was set as her wallpaper. This POS teen had to go into her gallery and locate the picture.
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What the teacher should do is sue the teen and his family for damages after being fired.
 
Zarathustra[H] said:
Why are people dumb enough to allow nude pictures to be taken of themselves in the first place?
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She didn't allow the picture to be taken. She took the picture herself and sent it to her husband on Valentine's Day. But didn't delete the picture afterwards.
 
Being a school teacher is a crappy job. You need at least one master's degree - more are better. You rack up a ton of student loans. Your pay is low - where I live, its close to $40k a year. (Yes, you do get summers off so need to take that into account).
You can't really discipline the kids. The parents are always on the attack. The school admins don't have your back. My wife has a lot of friends that are teachers - I'm surprised they don't all drink heavily.
So, this punk kid takes her personal property and slanders her. I'm not a lawyer, but how isn't this a vicious attack on her character? What if this little fucker vandalized my car, broke into my house, etc - would I not her some legal recourse against him? If he is a minor, probably limited.
The other part of me does question why she didn't have at least a PIN to access her phone. The teachers I know realize that kids will assault your property. If you bring a drink, it should in a bottle with a lid to minimize the chances of little Johnny from putting something in it.
I don't agree with her being fired. However, I would have resigned if I was her. Everyone has soon your goods (or bads - depends what she looks like :) ).
 
Exavior said:
Ah but precedent is a tricky fucker. Lets say that I let you borrow my car all the time with and without asking. Then one day your borrow without asking and crash it. I then try to say you stole it. The fact you borrowed it a few hundred times before and I was fine with that makes a theft charge hard to make stick. Same here, without knowing guidelines for borrowing the phone even if he was the first to use it during the time there is still nothing that shows evidence that he shouldn't have had access to it and that nobody under normal behavior couldn't have been able to see the pictures.

Don't get me wrong, I think the firing is stupid regardless. Just saying that there could be precedent set into play that sides with it not being stealing
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Again, you're making assumptions about the kids not having to ask to use her phone. How do we know this? Seems unlikely..
 
I stand in the "it's no big deal" camp. I wonder though; is this really fundamentally different than if the teacher were a guy who kept a bunch of Hustler mags in his unlocked briefcase? If that were the case, I suspect everyone would be screaming for his head.

Both though, would be cases of a teacher bringing, what could be deemed as pornography, onto a school campus.
 
so the kid not having ethics was not an issue? if the kid stole data why did the school not start there... bet yet if the teacher was not in the classroom what was the kid doing in the classroom in the first place? So the kid broke into the class room and looked at something that was not theres but yet the school decides the teacher having naughty selfies on her own phone was the issue? Be even funnier if the selfies were photobombed or photochopped images... and the teacher did not even do anything wrong...
 
drakken said:
so the kid not having ethics was not an issue? if the kid stole data why did the school not start there... bet yet if the teacher was not in the classroom what was the kid doing in the classroom in the first place? So the kid broke into the class room and looked at something that was not theres but yet the school decides the teacher having naughty selfies on her own phone was the issue? Be even funnier if the selfies were photobombed or photochopped images... and the teacher did not even do anything wrong...
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You can't even read the OP?
 
steakman1971 said:
Being a school teacher is a crappy job. You need at least one master's degree - more are better. You rack up a ton of student loans. Your pay is low - where I live, its close to $40k a year. (Yes, you do get summers off so need to take that into account).
You can't really discipline the kids. The parents are always on the attack. The school admins don't have your back. My wife has a lot of friends that are teachers - I'm surprised they don't all drink heavily.
So, this punk kid takes her personal property and slanders her. I'm not a lawyer, but how isn't this a vicious attack on her character? What if this little fucker vandalized my car, broke into my house, etc - would I not her some legal
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How did he slander her?
 
ChoGGi said:
Programmers != Sysadmins :)
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So you need to be a Sysadmin to know that you should at a minimum put a passcode on your phone?

My point was clearly to show she isn't someone who should be comfortable with general tech. Good try though.
 
evilsofa said:
Let's follow through with that straw man fallacy. If she left the front door of her house unlocked, and the student trespassed into her house and found physical copes of the photos in question inside the house and shared it with his friends, would she be getting slut shamed by her workplace?
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Yeah quite possibly. She's a teacher, she should know better. Should she have been fired? No, of course not, but she should still know better. Next.
 
Ultima99 said:
Yeah quite possibly. She's a teacher, she should know better. Should she have been fired? No, of course not, but she should still know better. Next.
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"Know better"?


Oh yeah, I forgot... western culture: sex = worse than murder.
 
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