HEAT! Coolermaster Elite 110, Skylake 6600k, R380 gpu

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so after a LONG and mentally draining build, involving 2 bad cpus, I finally got this system running:

Gigabyte Z710N Gaming 5 itx board
Intel Skylake 6600k cpu
Thermaltake CLP0556-B 92mm cooler-yeah not ideal but what I could fit in there
Thermaltake 450W gold psu
Saphire R380 itx gpu
Coolermaster Elite 110 case with stock fan(120mm front only).


Temps at stock aren't great, even at idle I'm getting temps of 40-50C even with the cpu throttling down to idle state of 800mhz and very little voltage. Load temps reach 80+C. Using Artic Silver 5 thermal compound. Case gets very warm fast too with any load, especially 3d since then the gpu is cooking sauce in there as well. Any ideas on adding fans, what type and where to aid the cooling. I feel like it's a case airflow issue and if I could exchange the air in there I could easily lower temps 10-20C
 
You need to figure out why temps are so high. Run with the case off. If idle temps are a lot lower, then it is a case cooling issue. If idle temps are still high, touch the heatsink to see if it feels warm. 40°C is a bit higher than body temperature, while 50ºC will be like lukewarm coffee.

Also check what voltages the motherboard is giving the CPU. If you've fiddled with any overclocks, (especially any auto settings in BIOS) potentially the temperatures are from too much voltage.

Now, if heatsink doesn't feel hot with case open and idling in Windows, but still getting high reported temps, then either the heatsink isn't seated right or the BIOS is simply just calibrated wrong.

Something else I just noticed is that the heatsink does not appear to have a copper core. In this case as long as it is installed properly the stock Intel heatsink would probably be better.
 
yeah I had case off, and temps were quite a bit better. I have a stock cooler, but on my i3 cpu I had prior to it's death, this cooler worked better vs a copper core intel stock cooler off of an i7 ivy bridge. I am somewhat suspicious of the bios calibration. However, there is a fair bit of heat coming from the PSU exhaust, as well as the back of the case getting noticeably warm/hot as well.
 
The high heat is obviously because of the terrible cooler and setup. There are two ways to remedy this.

1. Run a clc for the cpu. Not sure if you can but you want a push pull config so you can pump as much air out as possible.

2. Go air. You will need a 140mm high static pressure fan for intake. I recommend a phantek one. Buy a 60mm cpu cooler. I recommend scythe Big Shuriken 2 or better. You can get raijintek Pallas or a Thermalright. You want to leave about 10mm of clearance above the cooler.

Then you must have good cable management so air can be exhausted properly. The cooler you have right now is terrible. You are running 300 watts worth of heat and it is being dumped all next to your cpu. The gpu in that case will dump its heat inside the case. That cpu cooler is meant for celerons.
 
Would you consider flipping your PSU so that the PSU intake fan is pulling warm air from inside the case and exhausting out the rear? Of course, this means the PSU would be exposed to higher air input temperatures.
 
I should put some context toward my recommendation of flipping the PSU; perhaps afterward this recommendation may or may not be viable for this specific issue.

My previous CPU cooling solution was the Thermalright AXP-100, in which I inverted the CPU cooling fan to pull hot air upward away from the CPU, through the radiator, and toward the upside-down PSU. The PSU would then pull this hot air through its air intake and push toward the exhaust. The intent of this configuration was to ensure CPU hot air (and any other hot air in the immediate area) was always moving toward an exhaust fan (in this case, PSU intake) and thus not allowed to linger.
 
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iowa_doug said:
Is the cooling fan pushing air up and away from the CPU, or pulling air down toward it?
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Most cpu cooler blows downward towards the motherboard.

Edit* most low profile cooler that is.
 
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thehack said:
Most cpu cooler blows downward towards the motherboard.

Edit* most low profile cooler that is.
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The solution I recommended above helped lower temperatures in my SG05 (most of the case perforations were covered by the video card or wires). It previously used an Intel stock cooler. Airflow seemed to improve a bit, and I think temps were lowered on the order of 10C.
 
iowa_doug said:
The solution I recommended above helped lower temperatures in my SG05 (most of the case perforations were covered by the video card or wires). It previously used an Intel stock cooler. Airflow seemed to improve a bit, and I think temps were lowered on the order of 10C.
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I see. Very possible that exhausting the warm air benefited the system more than hurt the intake of the cpu cooler. But his biggest issue is still the weak cooler on an unlocked cpu.

He can try installing a big shuriken and reversing the fan to create an updraft cpu-cooler.
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thehack said:
I see. Very possible that exhausting the warm air benefited the system more than hurt the intake of the cpu cooler. But his biggest issue is still the weak cooler on an unlocked cpu.

He can try installing a big shuriken and reversing the fan to create an updraft cpu-cooler.
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This looks exactly what I did (with reversed fan, of course).
 
thx guys. I think I'm going to get a corsair AIO cooler like an H60 or something. Plus I think I'm going to add 2x 92mm fans that I'll rig onto the side vent area of the case(looking at the case on the desktop-the right side of the case-non video card side). Still not sure if I should use those to exhaust or intake yet as with the AIO I kinda worry about the motherboard heating a lot in the vrm area. So I may also take out the top cross brace for the hd, and put a 120mm fan up there to exhaust. Between all of that I should have some decent cooling :O

I also need to admit that I got frustrated and decided to oc the rig a bit just to see if it was truly heat or the mobo reading high. I think it's both now. I was able to get 4.2ghz easy at near stock voltages. Temps climbed a tiny bit vs stock; at least for short runs of stress, but extended periods I do experience heat soak, which I have to assume is lack of case airflow. My cables are nice and tucked so I don't think that is it. I think I just need more airflow and you all are right this cooler is not great. IT works, but not as well as I want.
 
Here is a video of a build using the Cooler Master Elite 110 case and Corsair H55 water cooling. I think there are some some very good points to keep in mind for this type of build. After watching this video, I can certainly empathize with you about airflow difficulties in the 110 case.

I'm guessing your PSU is non-modular? If it's not too late, one other consideration is a modular PSU with SilverStone's short cable kit PP05 (~ $30 @ Amazon). This hopefully would remove excess PSU cabling and open up additional airflow within the case.

Good luck.
 
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ok bought a Corsair H75 and system is super happy. Thx for advice all. Was just able to get the push pull fan to clear as it's almost against mobo/psu connector. Clocked the 6600K to 4.5ghz @1.275v set. Droop brings down to 1.2 at load. Heat max is 62C under load. Re-used the coolermaster 120mm fan to an exhaust fan mounted to top of case in the vent holes sitting just above psu and vid card.
 
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