ChoGGi
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HDCP for one?Why not just use HDMI? It's effectively pin compatible with DVI and the plug for it comes in 3 sizes.
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HDCP for one?Why not just use HDMI? It's effectively pin compatible with DVI and the plug for it comes in 3 sizes.
I don't see how its dead, theres still a few Skylake motherboards out there with VGA...
http://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/B150M-A/
If this just means for laptops, well, VGA is just too big of a connector for all these slim notebooks.
HDCP for one?
Thank goodness, that connector was error prone and unreliable, and a hassle to use at times.
Next in line is DVI.
We've been moving away from connectors with lots of pins with screws to secure the connection (VGA, DVI, serial, parallel, game port) to moderate force screw-less connectors (USB, HDMI, DisplayPort, Thunderbolt).
Yeah those "moderate force screw-less connectors" really hold up well in the real world.
HDMI is one of the most feeble connectors in history. Second only to SATA.
SATA I won't argue with but I've never once had an HDMI connector fall out by itself or break in any way. Both DVI and VGA on the other hand are prone to bent pins, stripped screws, stuck screws, screw terminals unscrewing off the back of the host with the stuck VGA screws, connector housings separating because the screws got stuck and the last person said the hell with it and removed the screw entirely, and so on....
The other arguments about "it just works in a pinch" and corporate settings with projectors are also both perfectly valid but there is no advantage to the VGA/DVI form factor itself.
Why not just use HDMI? It's effectively pin compatible with DVI and the plug for it comes in 3 sizes.
That makes no sense at all, VGA can't handle 4K and have problems with 1080p so no reason at all for it to be on a 4K monitor.
So many users, so little reading of the article.
Absolutely. VGA was the PC game (no pun intended) changer. For the first time the clones finally had as good/better then Atari/Amiga GFX. And they never looked back.
As far as connecting goes there will always be super cheap adapters.
Absolutely. VGA was the PC game (no pun intended) changer. For the first time the clones finally had as good/better then Atari/Amiga GFX. And they never looked back.
As far as connecting goes there will always be super cheap adapters.
Uh, I wouldn't go that far. The Amiga had hardware 2D graphics acceleration (e.g. hardware blitter and sprites), something that the PCs wouldn't get until the 90s with the "Windows Accelerator" boards (which were never really supported under DOS making it moot for most games).
As for Servers, that's a problem, since all our servers are using VGA through a switch box. If I need to buy a server in the next couple years, I'd likely buy an older model if that was the only way I could get one with a VGA port.
I still have LCD panels in use that are VGA only. I'd hate to have to replace them because they stop putting VGA ports on desktops.
The hell? Upgrade your switch box? Buy $2 VGA to DVI adapters?
It's people like you who are unwilling to move on from old tech that's caused the hardware stagnation we've seen since the days of XP, even more so than the lack of demanding software.
The hell? Upgrade your switch box? Buy $2 VGA to DVI adapters?
Zarathustra[H];1042123547 said:The cheap ones only work on DVI-I (up until now the most common) and DVI-A (which I have never seen).
My Gigabyte AMD FM2 motherboard (equipped with an A10-7850) however, doesn't ahve a VGA port, and the DVI port is a DVI-D, so the adapter simply does not fit into it.
You'd need an active VGA adapter with a complete DAC in it for that to work. I've never gone shopping for one, but I am sure they exist. Probably much more expensive though.
usb powered dvi to vga converters existMost of the servers I work on have VGA - it's simple, cheap, and very little overhead on the system. I could see this going to DVI, but then look at all the KVMs that would need replaced.....
I hope dvi sticks around for a very long time. DP/hdmi ports are generally of shitty quality, cables and ports break easily. People confuse the ports for usb and try to force their usb type-a cables into them, breaking them..Thank goodness, that connector was error prone and unreliable, and a hassle to use at times.
Next in line is DVI.
We've been moving away from connectors with lots of pins with screws to secure the connection (VGA, DVI, serial, parallel, game port) to moderate force screw-less connectors (USB, HDMI, DisplayPort, Thunderbolt).
Most of the servers I work on have VGA - it's simple, cheap, and very little overhead on the system. I could see this going to DVI, but then look at all the KVMs that would need replaced.....
who uses KVM's?
who uses KVM's?
I don't see how its dead, theres still a few Skylake motherboards out there with VGA...
http://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/B150M-A/
If this just means for laptops, well, VGA is just too big of a connector for all these slim notebooks.
This was going to be my point. Any motherboards sold in emerging markets pretty much have to have it according to the guys at GIGABYTE and ASUS. If they don't have it, they don't sell in those markets.
when things go wrong and it's easier to just walk up to the server... you could use IPMI, but you lose 1U for a LCD/keyboard/KVM combo that's always there...