VGA In Memoriam

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Is there anyone out there who is actually sad to see VGA go?

This year is, however, the year that VGA finally dies. After 30 years, after being depreciated by several technologies, and after it became easy to put a VGA output on everything from an eight-pin microcontroller to a Raspberry Pi, VGA has died. It’s not supported by the latest Intel chips, and it’s hard to find a motherboard with the very familiar VGA connector.
 
Haven't used VGA for anything other than old projectors for many years now. Turn the page.
 
Most of the servers I work on have VGA - it's simple, cheap, and very little overhead on the system. I could see this going to DVI, but then look at all the KVMs that would need replaced.....
 
somecallmeTim said:
Most of the servers I work on have VGA - it's simple, cheap, and very little overhead on the system. I could see this going to DVI, but then look at all the KVMs that would need replaced.....
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Just because a technology has become obsolete doesn't mean that all existing implementations of it are also. But I see no reason why current technology needs to implement VGA.
 
yeah our department still uses laptops that are old to the point that they only have a VGA output, but whatever, you can get a converter to make it work if it really was an issue... however no worries there they let "clean the filter" "change the bulb" warnings on overhead projectors go until it doesn't work anymore.
 
somecallmeTim said:
Most of the servers I work on have VGA - it's simple, cheap, and very little overhead on the system. I could see this going to DVI, but then look at all the KVMs that would need replaced.....
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Remote in instead.
 
I run into issues with this sometimes. Usually office computers. They are perfectly happy to continue using their existing 20-24" LCD monitor, but it seems like 80%+ of budget LCDs from 5-15 years ago are VGA. It's a bit annoying when you go to help them install their new computer and it only has HDMI output.
 
I am ok to see it go. HDMI and DP have replaced most peoples needs.
 
GotNoRice said:
I run into issues with this sometimes. Usually office computers. They are perfectly happy to continue using their existing 20-24" LCD monitor, but it seems like 80%+ of budget LCDs from 5-15 years ago are VGA. It's a bit annoying when you go to help them install their new computer and it only has HDMI output.
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A while back we had a similar issue with a 52inch tv our neighbours gave the kids. It didn't have any HDMI but had a DVI and the laptop I hooked up for Netflix only had HDMI and VGA.. ended up just using a DVI to HDMI adapter and then running audio into a speaker system via line in.

Pretty big hassle, but that's the price paid when buying budget components.
 
Vast majority of our clients still use VGA...they don't care or know any different.
 
The analog signal that is VGA pretty much sucks.

Hook up a monitor that has VGA and some other connector that is digital to the VGA port. Look at the screen for a while.. text is most obvious. The hook it up via a digital connection and watch how much crisper/cleaner the output is.

I only use VGA when that is the only thing available.
 
I'd love to see inexpensive laptops with dual HDMI, or with DisplayPorts that support MST. I encountered a Skylake-based Lenovo E560 not too long ago with HDMI and VGA outputs that were far enough apart to connect both without having to modify the VGA cable -- would absolutely love to see more laptops with the ability to connect multiple external displays.
 
somecallmeTim said:
Most of the servers I work on have VGA - it's simple, cheap, and very little overhead on the system. I could see this going to DVI, but then look at all the KVMs that would need replaced.....
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Do Matrox G200s even support DVI? (Yes, they are still literally selling brand new servers with a video card that can't do more than 1280x720).
 
cyclone3d said:
The analog signal that is VGA pretty much sucks.

Hook up a monitor that has VGA and some other connector that is digital to the VGA port. Look at the screen for a while.. text is most obvious. The hook it up via a digital connection and watch how much crisper/cleaner the output is.

I only use VGA when that is the only thing available.
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Adjust your clock/phase in the monitor settings.
 
I still remember seeing a vga display for the first time when I was 9 or so, it really was amazing compared to EGA.
 
It's dead because Intel chips won't support it? What kind of BS reasoning is that?

VGA is very much alive and useful, thank you very much.
 
I haven't used VGA for over 10 years now so not going to miss it, give me HDMI and Display Port.

ramrod126 said:
Dead or not I still don't understand why some 4k monitors come with it.
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That makes no sense at all, VGA can't handle 4K and have problems with 1080p so no reason at all for it to be on a 4K monitor.
 
Meeho said:
It's dead because Intel chips won't support it? What kind of BS reasoning is that?

VGA is very much alive and useful, thank you very much.
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Damn you Intel/Skylake/Microsoft/Win10!!!!!!!!

Anyway... Never seen a TV with DVI on the back. HDMI is of course much better but I've dug out some VGA cables to hook up older laptops to TV's many of times. It's the old stand-by that almost everything can hook up to.

Just makes me think of BNC cables for networking.. Now THAT I am thankful to be gone. I don't know how many times I had to wiggle that damn thing to bring the network back up. :D
 
I just bought a motherboard the other day that had VGA and DVI on it, although the CPU I chose didn't have graphics on it so I had to put in a video card.
Was an Asus A68HM-K and an AMD X4 860K processor.
 
A strange place where vga is clinging on is high end business laptops. They are needed to hook to older projectors which don't have the dvi HDMI dp wires or ports. As these are often mounted in the ceiling replacing the 15 or so in an office is more of an expense pain then ordering business laptops with vga.
 
VGA had a good run. I actually still use it from time to time with older devices. When they die, I think all of my monitors support DVI and most HDMI.
I also just ssh into most anyway.
 
Not sure why people hate on VGA. Sure, it's analog and some cables can be shit, but most of them are fine all the way up to the RAMDAC limit.
 
I am not surprised at all that VGA is dead. It's an analog connection that can not handle the resolutions of today's standards.
 
Wouldn't mind if they also didn't kill DVI-D which is the only one that does analogue also.. means no passive converters if you need VGA functionality.
 
Bigshrimp said:
I am not surprised at all that VGA is dead. It's an analog connection that can not handle the resolutions of today's standards.
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Today's standards? Sure, you're high end gaming rig, but what will the hotels and hospitals do when their VGA and coax is all gone!!! lol
 
but, but, what if McFly had not been able to output RF on channel 3? He wouldn't have been able to play his camcorder and Doc never would have believed him.
 
I hope everyone standardizes on mini DP (or USB-C, that would be fine), it would suck to be free of VGA just to end up with DVI. The connector is just too damn big.
 
thorban said:
I still remember seeing a vga display for the first time when I was 9 or so, it really was amazing compared to EGA.
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Absolutely. VGA was the PC game (no pun intended) changer. For the first time the clones finally had as good/better then Atari/Amiga GFX. And they never looked back.

As far as connecting goes there will always be super cheap adapters.
 
Not really sad, bitbit is slightly inconvenient.

I do most of my troubleshooting and builds in my basement using an old LCD with vga only input, not beauve I am attached to it, but because I ajs it laying around.

Up until recently I could still use DVI analogue adapters with it. My Kaveri build (A10-7850k) was the first aslyatem I've ever had down there which conpletely lacked VGA output, even with an adapter, and it was a light inconvenience.
 
There are still tons of old systems out there that still use VGA and DVI. Doesn't surprise me as I've seen large companies still run old hardware that use old connectors.
 
Too much existing equipment that still uses VGA.

I upgraded our conference rooms to HDMI last year, since some of the newer, thinner laptops no longer had VGA ports. However, we still have some laptops in use that only have a VGA connector, so I ended up buying an adapter that converts VGA to HDMI (uses the VGA port and a USB port for power) for each room.

As for Servers, that's a problem, since all our servers are using VGA through a switch box. If I need to buy a server in the next couple years, I'd likely buy an older model if that was the only way I could get one with a VGA port.

I still have LCD panels in use that are VGA only. I'd hate to have to replace them because they stop putting VGA ports on desktops. It would likely cause me to keep the existing PC's in use longer, due to the added cost of also having to replacing the displays.
 
Quix said:
I hope everyone standardizes on mini DP (or USB-C, that would be fine), it would suck to be free of VGA just to end up with DVI. The connector is just too damn big.
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Why not just use HDMI? It's effectively pin compatible with DVI and the plug for it comes in 3 sizes.
 
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