Is NEC/Eizo died here?

I own a PA271W and love it.

I had NEC probably replace at least 3 2690's and 1 PA271W. They have good warranty service!

People probably don't talk about them because they go at a premium. Also this forum is filled with enthusiasts who game. Eizo and NEC are more for the professional crowd - specifically those who are concerned with accurate color.
 
davewolfs said:
I own a PA271W and love it.

I had NEC probably replace at least 3 2690's and 1 PA271W. They have good warranty service!

People probably don't talk about them because they go at a premium. Also this forum is filled with enthusiasts who game. Eizo and NEC are more for the professional crowd - specifically those who are concerned with accurate color.
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Hi All
Agreed
 
With the exception of two panels from Eizo, they stuck to 60Hz which means they aren't very good as a multi-purpose display now.
We've now moved beyond simply increasing the refresh rate, to variable refresh rate technologies, which is missing from all but one Eizo display.
NEC have stuck with PWM backlighting, which immediately rules them out for me. (even if it's high-speed PWM)
And I haven't been hearing good things about NEC's service or quality control lately.
 
zone74 said:
With the exception of two panels from Eizo, they stuck to 60Hz which means they aren't very good as a multi-purpose display now.
We've now moved beyond simply increasing the refresh rate, to variable refresh rate technologies, which is missing from all but one Eizo display.
NEC have stuck with PWM backlighting, which immediately rules them out for me. (even if it's high-speed PWM)
And I haven't been hearing good things about NEC's service or quality control lately.
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Average user/gamer doesn't need more than 60Hz. It's a fact. They will always be terrible players no matter what refresh rate they're using. NECand Eizo are great but pricey. Dell is my favorite brand.
 
I haven't seen any exciting Nec model since their 20" glossy IPS display 8 years ago.

Eizo got a lot of talk about fg2421 but that enthusiasm died down quickly due to QA.
 
Eizo has the FS2735 which is the first interesting thing since the FG2421. But the pricetag is ridiculous, even for a market that has accepted 800€ G-Sync models.

I wish NEC would produce another 20WGX2, but I doubt it.
 
I also am really surprised that these two companies aren't the leaders. I own an Eizo CX241. I don't use the wide gamut at all as I have it calibrated for SGRB. This monitor has virtually no back light bleed, or some of the other problematic issues found on the IPS panel lotteries. I works perfectly for my needs which include mostly business related tasks and even some mild gaming.

I wish NEC would go back to making some of their monitors of old that had polarizers. I am assuming everone is trying to cut costs,
 
Iching said:
Average user/gamer doesn't need more than 60Hz. It's a fact. They will always be terrible players no matter what refresh rate they're using. NECand Eizo are great but pricey. Dell is my favorite brand.
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I don't agree with your first point. The first time I saw my mouse cursor glide along the desktop at 144 Hz was the last time I was ever going to consider a 60 Hz monitor. The refresh rate isn't about aiding gamers, it's about improving the user experience.

I will agree with your second point, though. I'm not willing to spend much more than $1,000 US on a monitor at this point, and motion clarity is more important to me.
 
Eizo does make some gaming grade monitors, but they're a bit hard to come by in the US at least. Other brands are much better known.
 
Paragon54 said:
I also am really surprised that these two companies aren't the leaders. I own an Eizo CX241. I don't use the wide gamut at all as I have it calibrated for SGRB. This monitor has virtually no back light bleed, or some of the other problematic issues found on the IPS panel lotteries. I works perfectly for my needs which include mostly business related tasks and even some mild gaming.

I wish NEC would go back to making some of their monitors of old that had polarizers. I am assuming everone is trying to cut costs,
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I'm thinking on upgrading my current Eizo with a CX.
Is it too much to ask a monitor that can be hardware calibrated with a decent LUT like CX and have gsync?
 
sblantipodi said:
I'm thinking on upgrading my current Eizo with a CX.
Is it too much to ask a monitor that can be hardware calibrated with a decent LUT like CX and have gsync?
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Yeah, probably. I don't think anyone has the super-accurate color work+hardcore gaming market in mind or ever will.
 
Armenius said:
I don't agree with your first point. The first time I saw my mouse cursor glide along the desktop at 144 Hz was the last time I was ever going to consider a 60 Hz monitor. The refresh rate isn't about aiding gamers, it's about improving the user experience.

I will agree with your second point, though. I'm not willing to spend much more than $1,000 US on a monitor at this point, and motion clarity is more important to me.
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I can live with 75Hz which is in practice much smoother than what one might think compared to 60Hz. 60Hz is just too choppy, especially on desktop.
 
NEC rarely makes "gaming" monitors, although the build quality/customer support/OSD options for customization are almost always top-notch. (I still use my trusty old EA231WMi in portrait mode next to my 42" 4K Seiki, as the panels almost match up, differing by about 3-4mm). I also used to own 2x LCD2490WUXi monitors (the ones with the A-TW polarizer). Those were great while they lasted.

Eizo has pushed more heavily in the gaming arena than NEC, but not that much more, and their recent offerings suffer somewhat from the "too little, too late" syndrome. If Eizo had a competitively priced IPS/PVA panel, 34-40", 3440x1440/4K 60Hz or 120Hz monitor specifically for gaming with Eizo's usual high quality at a competitive price, they could really hurt ASUS/Acer in this area. As it is, (besides the promising but hurt by QC FG2421) Eizo's 27" Foris FS2735 is their only real entry right now (hasn't been released in the US yet).
 
tungt88 said:
NEC rarely makes "gaming" monitors, although the build quality/customer support/OSD options for customization are almost always top-notch. (I still use my trusty old EA231WMi in portrait mode next to my 42" 4K Seiki, as the panels almost match up, differing by about 3-4mm). I also used to own 2x LCD2490WUXi monitors (the ones with the A-TW polarizer). Those were great while they lasted.

Eizo has pushed more heavily in the gaming arena than NEC, but not that much more, and their recent offerings suffer somewhat from the "too little, too late" syndrome. If Eizo had a competitively priced IPS/PVA panel, 34-40", 3440x1440/4K 60Hz or 120Hz monitor specifically for gaming with Eizo's usual high quality at a competitive price, they could really hurt ASUS/Acer in this area. As it is, (besides the promising but hurt by QC FG2421) Eizo's 27" Foris FS2735 is their only real entry right now (hasn't been released in the US yet).
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really hate what nvidia created.
FS2735 is a freesync monitor and it is not compatible with my crappy nvidia standard.
in any case seems that eizo has no gsync monitor yet.
 
Profit margain of gaming monitor compare to the pro monitor they sell is a joke though, look up their flag ship medical monitor msrp, and they have almost 0 competition.

Consumer line had been where they dump their crap panels.
 
I read the new CG2420 supposedly come with a Panasonic IPS-Pro panel (thus the 1:1500 ratio).
I don't understand why the manufacturers don't make some effort, like offering a least 90Hz on non-gaming monitors (i don't think it should be an issue..)

Two years ago i bought a CX241 (returned it because of a dead pixel). Finally i didnt ordered a new one, because i had issue with the wide gamut (even with sRGB mode) "Blurry" picture, for exemple red fringe around white text. Other people (with non-perfect vision) have reported this. So i settled on a standard gamut monitor for now. Have you seen others reports about this since ?
 
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