Acer XB240H G-Sync, TN panel horrible or good enough?

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How bad is the TN panel on this monitor? I have a 10 year old FP93G X (Anyone remember it? It was one of the first gaming LCDs) and it's not horrible. But it's 19" 1280x1024@60hz...

I'm currently using a BenQ EW2420 A-MVA panel monitor, which looks great, but has a ton of ghosting and input lag. This monitor is about 4 years old, and I've had enough of it, it's time to move on.

I'm mostly interested in the G-Sync feature, but don't want to end up with horrible colour reproduction... and I can hardly justify the ~$525 price as it is... sure I can afford to spend $1200 on my ideal monitor, but I only really play World of Tanks, and very rarely a few other games, a few of which would also benefit from G-Sync.

Basically I just want to hear some opinions on the TN panel, the 10 year old BenQ I have, you can definitely see steps in gradients on certain pictures, and very easily...

Should I just wait another year, till the Canadian dollar hopefully rises, and G-Sync becomes cheaper?
 
They aren't THAT bad... you can get them to look pretty decent in Windows desktop with color profiles and maybe a little digital vibrance through Nvidia control panel. They don't have true 8 bit panels like the 1440p TN gaming screens (ROG Swift, Dell S2716DG, etc.)

I would wait until more Gsync displays come out and hopefully the price drops a bit. There just aren't enough 24" high refresh rate gaming displays right now to drive those prices down.

edit: If the rig in your sig is current, you can't use Gsync anyway. You need a Freesync display if want variable refresh rate tech in a display when using AMD GPUs.
 
OP has gtx970 in signature ? Radeon part is ram :D

As for OP
Maybe wait for some kind of dell promotion ?
People were buying Dell S2716DG for something like 650 canadian bucks recently.
 
Don't really want 1440p... And I prefer 24"... 1080p 27" if it's the right price would be fine though.

I prefer not to have to upgrade sooner by using 1440p.

And yes, sig is current rig, with AMD memory, and GTX970, etc...

The viewing angles of a TN don't bother me, just hoping the colour isn't horrible. If I can see steps in gradients everywhere, I'll be sad.
 
The Acer is probably the best among the current 24" / 1080p / GSYNC offerings. The other two are AOC and BenQ (overpriced for not even possible to combine all the features of the monitor at the same time). But the Acer can still be seen as "average" product at best.

You're in the same boat as me though, I'm also looking for that kinda monitor, 24" / 1080p / 144Hz / GSYNC and I also got a GTX 970 and i5-4670K @ 4.3GHz and I upgrade into a single GPU in the 250~$350 princepoint every 2 or so years which means 1080p will still serve me better, GSYNC or not for some1 who isn't high res craving and more the "competitive-minded" gamer on a budget and to me 24" / 1080p is the perfect size right now for gaming, not too large to miss out on action at the sides at reflex-based situations.

And seems like my luck is turning after holding off patiently over a year since ASUS is about to launch such a monitor:
https://translate.google.com/transl...-swift-skarm-med-24-tum-och-g-sync&edit-text=

Might be worth holding off to see how the ASUS ROG turns out if you can delay your purchase some months still. Ideally it should have been IPS though but I can accept TN if it would be 8bit TN panel / Swift 27"'-esque premium TN product. Shame it isn't 165Hz like their recently launched IPS 1440p product which cannot even fully take advantage of it while a TN panel and even better, 1080p panel easily could in more cases than 1440p (GPU power demand a bit high/costly to run at 165 fps @ 1440p) and obviously the IPS panels which has been shown to produce more ghosting past 144Hz due to not being fast enough. Would have also made it easier of a reason to pick up a TN panel in 2016, 144Hz works just fine with IPS panels too, at least 165Hz would have a little bit of argument if you're a gamer to opt for 165Hz/TN if you prioritize getting that best possible motion smoothness but I still hope ASUS sees the sense in bringing it to that spec to increase sales of such a small display by today's standards.
 
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ASUS will be releasing a 24" 1080p G-Sync monitor this year, but we don't know anything about the panel yet. Word is it's also going to cost $549 US, so not much cheaper than the Acer. I think it would be worth it though if it will be using an 8-bit panel, since the bad color reproduction is usually associated with the use of 6-bit+FRC (dithering). The true 8-bit panel used in the 27" monitors like the PG278Q have excellent color reproduction.
 
ASUS will be releasing a 24" 1080p G-Sync monitor this year, but we don't know anything about the panel yet. Word is it's also going to cost $549 US, so not much cheaper than the Acer. I think it would be worth it though if it will be using an 8-bit panel, since the bad color reproduction is usually associated with the use of 6-bit+FRC (dithering). The true 8-bit panel used in the 27" monitors like the PG278Q have excellent color reproduction.

Yea my thoughts too, I didn't expect it to be cheap either but I hope for $499 rather than $549 pricepoint though but the way the competition has priced theirs I guess it's not like $549 is out of order, just wish the pricing on GSYNC would come down a bit since it's been on the market for quite a while now.

But I'm definitely praying it to be 8bit panel which we don't know yet but being an ASUS ROG and 24" / 1080p it kinda needs to be, otherwise it has absolutely nothing special going for it and coming such late. 8bit TN panel and things like bringing refresh rate to 165Hz would be things which should bring more interest though. The 165Hz thing is just a pipedream of me but Sweclockers for example reviewed a monitor and had some complaints about something refresh rate or whatever was it on a freesync version perhaps and ASUS actually listened and delayed the product a month or two and brought back an improved version to the market. If enough people keep banging the door, perhaps wishes may come true. :p I think it would be so much easier to sell if it was a 8bit panel + 165Hz at such price point for that size which would make it feel more "premium" too despite the non-enthusiastic size/res segment. At least if these things go for $549 I guess there's no room for an IPS panel version either since that would end up costing like $100 more and then we're almost at the 1440p IPS 144Hz price point which not a lot of people would pay for 24/1080p.
 
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In all honesty, I'd prefer the 24" panel, I feel 27" would be just too big for my workspace.

And 1080p is still fine for me, I feel 1440p would make the Windows UI too small for my liking, and it puts that extra strain on my single GTX 970... which I plan on keeping for at least a few years.

If I could just make my EW2420 have G-Sync and 120hz+, then I'd be golden! But that's not possible Haha.
 
In all honesty, I'd prefer the 24" panel, I feel 27" would be just too big for my workspace.

And 1080p is still fine for me, I feel 1440p would make the Windows UI too small for my liking, and it puts that extra strain on my single GTX 970... which I plan on keeping for at least a few years.

If I could just make my EW2420 have G-Sync and 120hz+, then I'd be golden! But that's not possible Haha.

For me 24" / 1080p is just perfect too and I have no desire for larger size/res either today (I'm using actually 1680x1050 at home still (ViewSonic 22" 120Hz screen) but at work I have a 27" 1080p IPS which I think is a bit too large for the res as the PPI isn't high enough) and it keeps the maintaining costs down to be able to run newer games at good framerates significantly but I think majority of HardForum PC enthusiasts have probably either moved on to 1440p already or will be doing so at the next monitor purchase. I fear 1080p product focus is slowly disappearing in favor for 1440p becoming mainstream in the next 1-2 years already on the market and that 1080p will be kept to budget models and likely will have ever so decreasing attention among exotic features such as GSYNC and high refresh rate race, glad at least someone is still releasing a new 24"/1080p/144Hz/GSYNC monitor today.
 
G SINK is not worth the money. I think you should buy an EIZO Foris (1920x1080 VA) or any 2560x1440 monitor that supports strobing. The Foris would have better color and contrast, a 1440 moniter would have more resolution.
 
G SINK is not worth the money. I think you should buy an EIZO Foris (1920x1080 VA) or any 2560x1440 monitor that supports strobing. The Foris would have better color and contrast, a 1440 moniter would have more resolution.

I've considered the Eizo but it's got a lot of quality control issues and VA is also somewhat slow in response time so when strobing there will be slight amount of reverse ghosting and I'm particularly sensitive to that. I'd prefer getting a good working overdrive with zero artefacting which the upcoming ASUS ROG should be able to do (the Swift 27" in normal mode does).
 
G SINK is not worth the money. I think you should buy an EIZO Foris (1920x1080 VA) or any 2560x1440 monitor that supports strobing. The Foris would have better color and contrast, a 1440 moniter would have more resolution.

Don't be so arrogant.

G-Sync might not be worth your money, but it's worth mine.

I value the fact that it prevents tearing and input lag, or I wouldn't have made a thread asking about the quality of the TN panel, I'd have just bought an IPS or VA panel that's high refresh rate, and called it a day.
 
To OP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhwV6EJwbG0.

It's a TN panel, but for $269.99 it's probably the least expensive G-Sync monitor out there. What I don't mention in the video is the stand, it's actually quite good and I would recommend this screen.

Might be $269 USD... but it's $525 CAD. If it was $269 CAD, I'd have already bought it, but it's hard to spend that kind of money on a TN panel.

I'm hoping in March our dollar will recover a bit, and I'll get something with an IPS panel, unless the XB240H goes on sale for $299 or something, which I highly doubt.
 
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