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sirmonkey1985 said:
i really want to like the hipper but quite frankly it's a piece of junk.. yes it has the ability to citadel stuff, to bad it also has the ability to be citadel'd by everything else in the game.. your only hope in the hipper is the enemy team is retarded and and ignores you (never happens). best game though, i had 3 kills 148 hits and 4 citadel's and still came up -56k silver after repairs and ammo for the game since i survived with 358 hp.. not going to pay for premium just to use a ship..

roon i can't say much about because every roon i came up against i was in my yorck and i usually killed them in 3-4 volleys..

hindenburg is a beast though.


welp made another attempt after burning 6m silver and 20k free XP in hopes that maybe the hipper isn't a total piece of crap if you throw as much money into it as possible.. yeah no it's still a piece of crap, i'd rather be in a pensacola then this thing.. sold and moving on to something else..
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I'd have to watch you play the Hipper. It's honestly one of my better ships... 1.88 K/D ratio with it and a 57% win rate. I don't dare show my broadside, but that's true in every ship. My Roon is even higher at a 2.95 K/D.
 
Sirmonkey did you upgrade your Hipper? Stock is brutal. Rudder shift speed is 12 seconds with captain skill (My Iowa is 14 for ref... My Yorck is 6.5 IIRC.). B hull gives you around 8 seconds. And the range upgrade does wonders too.

Stock I'd have to get too close and because of the turn radius and rudder shift time I'd expose my citadels like nuts and at that tier you get slaughtered. With the range upgrade and b hull I've been doing way better. I can keep my ship at better angles. A lot of higher tier ships are like this, stock usually blows.
 
Man I'm loving this Mogami. That means they will probably nerf it next update LOL

Gonna get the 203's next and see if I like them better.

She does die a bit easyh though.
 
TechLarry said:
Man I'm loving this Mogami. That means they will probably nerf it next update LOL

Gonna get the 203's next and see if I like them better.

She does die a bit easyh though.
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The 203s get completely shit on. The combination of a 2.4km range reduction and roughly doubling your shell reload removes any and all usefulness from the Mogami. It directly reduces your ability to deal damage because you're forced to be closer to ships and take more damage as you have less time to react to incoming shells. Pretty fucked up, really.

I finally finished up the Konigsberg overview and feel pretty good about it. I think it's an overhyped ship but, while not as capable to me as the Omaha/Murmansk, it still has a huge amount of damage potential. I just wish it didn't feel like a fucking dumptruck on the water, though.
 
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Business6 said:
The 203s get completely shit on. The combination of a 2.4km range reduction and roughly doubling your shell reload removes any and all usefulness from the Mogami. It directly reduces your ability to deal damage because you're forced to be closer to ships and take more damage as you have less time to react to incoming shells. Pretty fucked up, really.

I finally finished up the Konigsberg overview and feel pretty good about it. I think it's an overhyped ship but, while not as capable to me as the Omaha/Murmansk, it still has a huge amount of damage potential. I just wish it didn't feel like a fucking dumptruck on the water, though.
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I have to agree after a few games. The faster turrets don't make up for the 2 rpm loss in speed, and I also think the 155's group better.

I got killed more than once waiting for the damned reload.

I'm still not convinced I like AFT though, even with the 155's. It's done with elevation, not power. That's really all it is is more elevation so they can be lobbed further.

The question is are the 4 points better used elsewhere?
 
Dayaks said:
Sirmonkey did you upgrade your Hipper? Stock is brutal. Rudder shift speed is 12 seconds with captain skill (My Iowa is 14 for ref... My Yorck is 6.5 IIRC.). B hull gives you around 8 seconds. And the range upgrade does wonders too.

Stock I'd have to get too close and because of the turn radius and rudder shift time I'd expose my citadels like nuts and at that tier you get slaughtered. With the range upgrade and b hull I've been doing way better. I can keep my ship at better angles. A lot of higher tier ships are like this, stock usually blows.
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i tried it stock and fully upgraded.. yeah the stock blows, the upgraded hull and all the mods is a bit better but not good enough to say "wow this ship is amazing".. it's just slightly less terrible.. it's just one of those ships you have to hope the enemy team is retarded and bad, and ships like that aren't fun to play.



but what i will say is.. holy crap the furytaco is actually a decent ship now, lol.. only took 6 patches of rebalancing that ship to make it happen.
 
TechLarry said:
Man I'm loving this Mogami. That means they will probably nerf it next update LOL

Gonna get the 203's next and see if I like them better.

She does die a bit easyh though.
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If you put on the 203 on the Mogami, then you just make the ship into a lesser Atago without the heal.

Also, they already have nerfed the Mogami, so imagine it pre-nerf compared to what it is now.
 
I got the taco just a week or so ago, only a few games in it, but it's a fun cruiser. A different style than playing murmansk, my only other cruiser at T5.
 
TechLarry said:
I have to agree after a few games. The faster turrets don't make up for the 2 rpm loss in speed, and I also think the 155's group better.

I got killed more than once waiting for the damned reload.

I'm still not convinced I like AFT though, even with the 155's. It's done with elevation, not power. That's really all it is is more elevation so they can be lobbed further.

The question is are the 4 points better used elsewhere?
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No, absolutely not. You missed my point about the big problem with the 203's having reduced range compared to the 155s. You need the additional range from AFT not just to deal damage but to survive. If you're hitting an enemy battleship at 17.5km away that's much better than being a few kilometers closer and having a couple seconds less time to react to incoming shots from that target. The shell arc is also crucial for hitting targets out of your line of sight that are behind islands.

The shell travel time is just fine, in my opinion, since it takes about 13 seconds for the 155s to fire out to 18.1km or whatever the max range is compared to the 17.97 seconds for max range on a Cleveland, for example. That's a considerably more effective shell velocity and one of the more decent compromises they've ever achieved in balancing a given ship. The overall effectiveness of the Mogami has definitely been reduced but it's still one of the most dangerous ships in the game. So what Chibe said about how it was before the changes is no BS: the ship was grossly unbalanced.
 
Business6 said:
No, absolutely not. You missed my point about the big problem with the 203's having reduced range compared to the 155s. You need the additional range from AFT not just to deal damage but to survive. If you're hitting an enemy battleship at 17.5km away that's much better than being a few kilometers closer and having a couple seconds less time to react to incoming shots from that target. The shell arc is also crucial for hitting targets out of your line of sight that are behind islands.

The shell travel time is just fine, in my opinion, since it takes about 13 seconds for the 155s to fire out to 18.1km or whatever the max range is compared to the 17.97 seconds for max range on a Cleveland, for example. That's a considerably more effective shell velocity and one of the more decent compromises they've ever achieved in balancing a given ship. The overall effectiveness of the Mogami has definitely been reduced but it's still one of the most dangerous ships in the game. So what Chibe said about how it was before the changes is no BS: the ship was grossly unbalanced.
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No, I understood you perfectly :)

I'm just saying AFT doesn't necessarily fit my play style.
 
The Ibuki looks like a downgrade. Is that just an unfortunate necessary step over to get to the Zao ?
 
Jeebus... 275 fires down... 25 more and I'm free! I've been rocking the Cleveland so much that I forgot how to play a BB!

Sold the myoko and got a mogami, since I'll have the arp myoko, anyway, not too bad at first, but I'll need to play it more. Can it pen with the 155s?
 
Digital Viper-X- said:
Jeebus... 275 fires down... 25 more and I'm free! I've been rocking the Cleveland so much that I forgot how to play a BB!

Sold the myoko and got a mogami, since I'll have the arp myoko, anyway, not too bad at first, but I'll need to play it more. Can it pen with the 155s?
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Oh, yeah. It kills battleships good.

Just set them on fire with HE, then pound them at long range through the deck with AP.

May not be as effective at close range, but I try to avoid that :)

Make sure you get the 15k Fire Control upgrade Asa's or you'll be out ranged and killed quick.

I leave AFT up to you. The 4 point AFT skill will get you to 18k.

Forget the 203's. They suck. Sadly they look mandatory at T9.

Rudder upgrade. You.l need it.

She fights best nose in at a 10 deg angle or so. Just enough to let all the front guns clear and fire.

The problem is turning around. Try to do it behind an island or something because she does not like her belly scratched one bit.

Other than clubbing seals in the Orlan (lol), this is the most fun ship in the game for me so far. It teaches patience and practicality and rewards it with awesome fireworks :)
 
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I made it to 10.0 last night and had to stop to escape the madness. 9 hours to get from 13 to 10.
 
Digital Viper-X- said:
Jeebus... 275 fires down... 25 more and I'm free! I've been rocking the Cleveland so much that I forgot how to play a BB!

Sold the myoko and got a mogami, since I'll have the arp myoko, anyway, not too bad at first, but I'll need to play it more. Can it pen with the 155s?
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Clevelands one of those ships you never sell. You may park it for a month or two, but as soon as you take it out again you are reminded why it's still in the garage.
 
TechLarry said:
I made it to 10.0 last night and had to stop to escape the madness. 9 hours to get from 13 to 10.
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Congrats! I gave you that one match. :). My smoke didn't work, must have had a CA with sonar too close. My avg base exp in the Bly is 1800. I bet my standard deviation is nuts though.

I played four games this morning and made it to 12. I am "working from home" tomorrow, going to be hard not to go nuts with World of Warships.

I am kinda bummed the rest of the matches are Tier 7 & 8. I guess it's a fun tier level, but wish they broke it up with some tier 3-4 later on... It would be fun to break out the Wyoming rather than playing Bly / Benson the rest of these ranks!
 
I've ground though from 12 to 15 point captain on the blysk friday night and yesterday. Stealth firing on cruisers and BB's from 13km with AFT now has to irritate the shit out of them. I'll try to get that 16th point today so I can get BFT back, need that 10% rate of fire help, think I need another 100k or so xp.
 
Dayaks said:
Congrats! I gave you that one match. :). My smoke didn't work, must have had a CA with sonar too close. My avg base exp in the Bly is 1800. I bet my standard deviation is nuts though.

I played four games this morning and made it to 12. I am "working from home" tomorrow, going to be hard not to go nuts with World of Warships.

I am kinda bummed the rest of the matches are Tier 7 & 8. I guess it's a fun tier level, but wish they broke it up with some tier 3-4 later on... It would be fun to break out the Wyoming rather than playing Bly / Benson the rest of these ranks!
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I got a few shots in on you but then had to tend to more pressing matters :)

I think that was one of 3 matches last night I ended up "Your team now depends entirely on you".

Man I hate it when that happens !
 
dave99 said:
I've ground though from 12 to 15 point captain on the blysk friday night and yesterday. Stealth firing on cruisers and BB's from 13km with AFT now has to irritate the shit out of them. I'll try to get that 16th point today so I can get BFT back, need that 10% rate of fire help, think I need another 100k or so xp.
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should be easy enough with the commander bonus stuff.. last night i took a fresh commander to a T4 commander in like an hour.. got 4 back to back 10x captain XP bonuses in my furytaco. working on making a real IJN battleship commander before i unlock the amagi since all my IJN commanders are setup for cruisers and destroyers.


TechLarry said:
Clevelands one of those ships you never sell. You may park it for a month or two, but as soon as you take it out again you are reminded why it's still in the garage.
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i ended up selling mine after using the nurnberg. even though the clevelands a better ship, the nurnberg is just to much fun to use. the amount of rage you get from BB's when they can't hit you is hilarious.
 
double post but it's worth it..

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yeah i'm loving the furytaco. we were losing this game and our BB's were just giving up and letting themselves die because 2 DD's got into our back line.. first DD i one volleyed with AP and detonated him, second DD i two volleyed with AP, and an omaha at half HP was trying to sneak up on the edge of the border behind our base and i citadel'd him long way through his bow. man that game was amazing.
 
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sirmonkey1985 said:
double post but it's worth it..

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yeah i'm loving the furytaco. we were losing this game and our BB's were just giving up and letting themselves die because 2 DD's got into our back line.. first DD i one volleyed with AP and detonated him, second DD i two volleyed with AP, and an omaha at half HP was trying to sneak up on the edge of the border behind our base and i citadel'd him long way through his bow. man that game was amazing.
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I loved the furytaco when everyone hated it (on the EU server). I haven't tried it since it's been buffed. I wonder sometimes if I should have went jap cruiser... on the Hipper. Sounds like the roon is better and the German T10 is great. Might as well finish the line. :)
 
Dayaks said:
I loved the furytaco when everyone hated it (on the EU server). I haven't tried it since it's been buffed. I wonder sometimes if I should have went jap cruiser... on the Hipper. Sounds like the roon is better and the German T10 is great. Might as well finish the line. :)
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i played the fury taco before all the buff's as well during CBT, i didn't hate it but didn't like it either. but now it's pretty good. the range hurts it a lot though when you get stuck in T6 matches.
 
sirmonkey1985 said:
double post but it's worth it..

yeah i'm loving the furytaco. we were losing this game and our BB's were just giving up and letting themselves die because 2 DD's got into our back line.. first DD i one volleyed with AP and detonated him, second DD i two volleyed with AP, and an omaha at half HP was trying to sneak up on the edge of the border behind our base and i citadel'd him long way through his bow. man that game was amazing.
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lol, goddamn
 
Business6 said:
It's just the premium camo they have for it, not a mod.
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Hmm, I have that camo, looks different, it was more like the german camo.

I enjoyed the Furataka and Kuma, I was dishing out 80-90k dmg in the Kuma! lol that thing is highly overpowered for T4.
 
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sirmonkey1985 said:
double post but it's worth it..

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yeah i'm loving the furytaco. we were losing this game and our BB's were just giving up and letting themselves die because 2 DD's got into our back line.. first DD i one volleyed with AP and detonated him, second DD i two volleyed with AP, and an omaha at half HP was trying to sneak up on the edge of the border behind our base and i citadel'd him long way through his bow. man that game was amazing.
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I loved the furry taco when I played it (post buff). I do have to say that at stock, those guns SUCKED.
 
Oh, the T8 Russian cruiser is available. Can someone post the specs?

It is a post WW2 Cruise with great AA torps and smoke is what I heard :p
 
Digital Viper-X- said:
Oh, the T8 Russian cruiser is available. Can someone post the specs?

It is a post WW2 Cruise with great AA torps and smoke is what I heard :p
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Survivability 54
Hit Points 40,700
Armor 15-100
Citadel 23 - 100 mm
Gun Casemate 26 mm
Forward and After Ends 26 mm
Armored Deck 15 - 50 mm

Artillery 51
Main Battery
152 mm/57 MK-5-bis 4 x 3
Maximum Dispersion 143 m
180 Degree Turn Time 33.33 s
Rate of Fire 6.7 rounds/min
AP Shell Maximum Damage 3300
HE Shell Maximum Damage 2200
Chance of Fire on Target Caused by HE Shell 12%
Firing Range 15.9 km

Secondary Armament
100 mm/70 SM-5-1s 6x2
Rate of Fire 15.0 rounds/min
HE Shell Maximum Damage 1400
Chance of Fire on Target Caused by HE Shell 6%
Firing Range 5.0 km

Torpedoes 19
533 mm Quintuple PTA-53-68-bis 2 x 5 533 mm
Torpedo 53-51
Torpedo Range 8.0 km
Reload Time 131 s
Maximum Damage 14400
180 Degree Turn Time 7.2 s
Torpedo Speed 60 knots

AA Defense 59
16x2 37 mm V-11 Firing Range 3.5 km
Average Damage per Second 144
Firing Range 3.5 km
6x2 100 mm/70 SM-5-1s Firing Range 5.0 km
Average Damage per Second 90
Firing Range 5.0 km

Maneuverability 65
Maximum Speed 33 knots
Turning Circle Radius 760 m
Rudder Shift Time 6.5 s

Concealment 42
Air Detectability Range 14.5 km
Surface Detectability Range 9.3 km

One (or two with premium consumable) charge of smoke that is active for 20 seconds and no spotter or float fighter. Heard it's pretty squishy since it's a CL.
 
The Kutuzov has stupidly strong AP penetration from the various videos and streams that I've seen. Far more powerful than what you would expect from 152mm cannons.
 
Be interesting to see how it stacks up against atago. I'd be marginally interested, since I already have a high tier captain in the russian line. I know I've wasted 50 bucks on far stupider things, although I'm not sure I can get over the hump of paying 50 for 1 ship in a single game.

From one video I saw, with superintendent captain skill, it actually had 3 smokes vs 1 stock.
 
I read some reviews and watched some videos on the Kutuzov. It looks like a fun ship to play, a big russian DD basically, but other than AA, it appears it's simply not as good as an atago, or even some of the regular ships like mogami. The guns don't appear to hit all that hard (esp HE), it takes damage like it's made out of gas station toilet paper (that really dry awful single ply stuff), it's detection is awful at 14.5 km (appears to be the worst T8 CA), yet it's supposed to be a CL that hunts DD's.

Sure it's got smoke, but I'm betting if you try to use it as offensive smoke, you're going to have multiple torp spreads coming for you shortly.

I guess on the flip side, on the EU server it does have a slightly better WR than the other T8 cruisers.
 
man i got screwed hardcore by matchmaking tonight... all i wanted was the damn 150 plane kills.. so i waste silver rebuying the crappy ryujo and then promptly got stuck against T8/9 ships 6 games in a row.. finally gave up, decided to try finishing the last 8k XP i had left on the furutaka and got placed in 4 mostly T7 matches in a row.. why the hell can i never get that lucky when i'm in a damn T7/8 cruiser.. i always get placed against essex's and crap.
 
I was in a very favorable position to potentially earn Solo Warrior for the first time and get 10 kills (no joke) in my Fuso. I had engaged an enemy Kiev at close range (like 8km) and nailed the shit out of him to bring him to something like 250hp. I was turning to my port side to defend against the two enemy ships (myoko + kongo, 20-30%hp each) as my 2 front turrets had just reloaded and brought them onto the Kiev to finish him off. I crashed. I died as I tried to get the game back up and running and get back to the match. Motherfucker. 99 hits in a Fuso with 6 kills, 170k damage up to that point and I was doing so fucking well against the enemy ships. So disappointed.

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And goddamn, 36% accuracy (296 shots fired, lol) in the Fuso? I've never done that well with it. Just...ugh.
 
Business6 said:
I was in a very favorable position to potentially earn Solo Warrior for the first time and get 10 kills (no joke) in my Fuso. I had engaged an enemy Kiev at close range (like 8km) and nailed the shit out of him to bring him to something like 250hp. I was turning to my port side to defend against the two enemy ships (myoko + kongo, 20-30%hp each) as my 2 front turrets had just reloaded and brought them onto the Kiev to finish him off. I crashed. I died as I tried to get the game back up and running and get back to the match. Motherfucker. 99 hits in a Fuso with 6 kills, 170k damage up to that point and I was doing so fucking well against the enemy ships. So disappointed.

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And goddamn, 36% accuracy (296 shots fired, lol) in the Fuso? I've never done that well with it. Just...ugh.
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Ouch man, that sucks :( You need to get that crashing problem fixed.
 
I saw the Russian cruiser do full reverse and try popping smoke (a move I do all the time in dd). He got absolutely slaughtered, he couldn't stop fast enough. Might work better if there's only one or two ships around you. Or turn away first. He tried to do it infront of four. Nice range on the guns I wonder what the flight time is.

Business6 maybe try dropping your OCs if you have them? Not like this game takes much.

I love the Fuso/New Mexico. Chibe and I got #1 and 2 on our team in a T8 game in New Mex / Fuso. I thought that was funny.
 
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