Pirate Bay Founder Builds A Perpetual Piracy Machine

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You would think that the millions in fines, jail time and having your life ruined by the entertainment industry would be enough to deter these guys, but I guess not.

Pirate Bay co-founder Peter Sunde served his prison sentence last year but still owes the entertainment industries millions in damages. Some might think that he's learned his lesson, but with a newly built copying machine he's generating millions of extra 'damages,' which might be worth a mention in the Guinness Book of Records.
 
If he already owes millions, why not a few more. I applaud his going out in a blaze of glory.
 
Hey, The guy needs to really step up his pirating if he is ever going to make enough money to pay all those damages.
 
He realizes, as does everyone else, that he'll NEVER make enough to pay off the fines. In that sense, it's like not being fined at all as they government has to leave enough money for him to pay rent, food, etc.
 
Scythe said:
He realizes, as does everyone else, that he'll NEVER make enough to pay off the fines. In that sense, it's like not being fined at all as they government has to leave enough money for him to pay rent, food, etc.
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Exactly... $10m in fines or $100 billion makes no difference to him. Anything they try to do to him now will only cost them more money, make them look foolish and give him publicity.
 
Scythe said:
He realizes, as does everyone else, that he'll NEVER make enough to pay off the fines. In that sense, it's like not being fined at all as they government has to leave enough money for him to pay rent, food, etc.
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Exactly.
 
dont relly see what he is trying to prove. A copy into nothing is not the same as a copy to a person that now might not pay for a legitimate copy.

But maybe that his point then again meh.
 
SvenBent said:
dont relly see what he is trying to prove. A copy into nothing is not the same as a copy to a person that now might not pay for a legitimate copy.

But maybe that his point then again meh.
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The entertainment industry will and does count every unpaid copy even "into nothing" as a lost sale.
 
SvenBent said:
dont relly see what he is trying to prove. A copy into nothing is not the same as a copy to a person that now might not pay for a legitimate copy.

But maybe that his point then again meh.
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He's probably trying to show how idiotic the penalties are. You can generate an infinite amount of 'damages' with an automated script that does no harm to anyone in reality.
 
SvenBent said:
dont relly see what he is trying to prove. A copy into nothing is not the same as a copy to a person that now might not pay for a legitimate copy.

But maybe that his point then again meh.
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Even a copy going to a person, is not any different than lending a DVD to a friend. The end result is that the person gets to see the movie without having to pay for it. Or is lending a movie actually considered illegal too?

The whole copyright extremism stuff has gone WAY too far and is completely insane.
 
Red Squirrel said:
Even a copy going to a person, is not any different than lending a DVD to a friend. The end result is that the person gets to see the movie without having to pay for it. Or is lending a movie actually considered illegal too?

The whole copyright extremism stuff has gone WAY too far and is completely insane.
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could you lend your dvd to millions all at the same time?
 
Studies show that users who pirate also spend the most money on media. Studies show that media houses revenues break records every year. Piracy really is a victimless crime.

Antipiracy creates victims. I for one am starting to renew my blockade of anything RIAA / MPAA related. Did it for 10 years previously already as a protest, going to start again.
 
opfreak said:
could you lend your dvd to millions all at the same time?
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Could you lend your downloaded car?

People don't buy movies, they buy disks in boxes custom-designed with their favorite movie on the covers and menus. People also don't buy music, they buy the art connected to it. For those who are smart, they've long stopped charging for digital content and instead sold merchandise in connection to the free form of art. Same as video, bluray isn't quality enough to truly "own" a video, it's an old medium that's accepted to sell processed-down copies, whereas pirating just doesn't charge for it.
 
greenman said:
Could you lend your downloaded car?

People don't buy movies, they buy disks in boxes custom-designed with their favorite movie on the covers and menus. People also don't buy music, they buy the art connected to it. For those who are smart, they've long stopped charging for digital content and instead sold merchandise in connection to the free form of art. Same as video, bluray isn't quality enough to truly "own" a video, it's an old medium that's accepted to sell processed-down copies, whereas pirating just doesn't charge for it.
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Actually, we are buying movies.

At least according to Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html?docId=1001713781

This was a sale back in 2013, but the same marketing language is used today.

Buy 2, Get 1 Free Offer
Buy two (2) movies and get one (1), of equal or lesser value, free. This offer is valid through December 21, 2013
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So until the RIAA/MPAA stops companies from "illegally" misleading customers by saying we actually *are* buying the movie itself, then your argument/reasoning is unnecessary semantics.
 
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What we need is a global heavy copyright law reform. The current copyright laws are really aged and not originally meant to exist in a digitally modernized world, it just holds it back and get abused by anti-piracy & movie/music industry organisations which will do their best to keep us thinking stealing is bad and there is absolutely no other ways around it.

I can't be the only one who have thought that why should we purposedly punish ourselves instead of at least TRYING to come up with a better way of generating income for copyright holders. There has to be a way to come up with a system which fits the Internet age and can allow copying/downloading of stuff but generate income based on how popular it is to keep the competitive spirit also in this business in order to motivate people to create beautiful creative content.

Google adsense is one good example on YouTube, copyright holders are generated income based on how many views the videos have and these days it's also possible to redirect the income that someone else uploaded into the original copyright holder. I want to see more of these kinda systems/thinking. Less about people stuck in the middle age.
 
B00nie said:
Studies show that users who pirate also spend the most money on media. Studies show that media houses revenues break records every year. Piracy really is a victimless crime.

Antipiracy creates victims. I for one am starting to renew my blockade of anything RIAA / MPAA related. Did it for 10 years previously already as a protest, going to start again.
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When it was cool to pirate music, I owned in excess of 20k CDs that I purchased legally. I would scour USENET looking for the next undiscovered artist that I thought would blow up into something big. Since I stopped pirating music, I have purchased 5 CDs in 10 years.

A couple of years ago I did get a paid Pandora account and this year I added a Tidal account. Why did I do this? Because I can listen to Pandora and discover old music that I used to own CDs of. If I hear it and like it, then I look for it on Tidal for the HQ lossless version.

If the music industry had left "pirates" alone, I'd own 50,000 legally bought CDs by now.
 
this would be a distributed project i could support.... someone get this on world community grid ASAP......
 
I think the fight for the right to copy is a very 00's fight. This decade is about fighting for no borders when it comes to streaming services. Netflix and Hulu and such should be watchable for everyone on the globe. Think about the profits with 10 bucks per month from the 3 billion or so people on earth who can afford that.

Streaming services like Netflix and Spotify have taken over but is not acessible for all.
 
Piracy is a never ending fight, the piratebay founder probably feels he has nothing more to lose so why not just keep going, theres tons of people who count on torrent sites so if he keeps going everyone will be happy
 
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