Corsair H80i GT AIO vs Haswell-E OC.

I agree...these AIOs perform much better than a huge air cooled HSF. I recently put a small 92mm AIO on an i7-6700k (on a system I upgraded to give away to family for Christmas) and it idles at 20 degC and is anywhere from 45-50degC under load (stock clocks), using the stock TIM that came on the AIO. Keep in mind that this is for the smallest AIO there is at only 92mm.

Pretty damn good if you ask me...;)
Just curious, who is selling a 92mm AIO? I assume it is a CLC?

I really don't care what coolers you use. I just don't like seeing people fall for all the marketing hype about how great CLCs are.

Look at all the "refurbished" and "remanufactured" CLCs being sold. Where do you think they get all the ones that need to be repaired?

Have you ever seen any "refurbished" or "remanufactured" air coolers for sale?

Truth is the only AIOs that are equal to top air coolers are Swiftech and EKWB Predator .. and neither of them are CLC. They basically are pre-assembled & pre-filled component kits .. with much better pumps, copper radiators, independent CPU waterblocks, and easy to add additional components, change / top off coolant, replace old components, etc to them. CLCs (Asetek originally called the LCLC (Low Cost Liquid Cooling)) are just that. cheap, disposable coolers. The only thing CLCs have in common with real water cooling loops is water.

Real water loop users think of CLCs as "wann-a-be" water coolers

I don't have a Haswell, but I do have i7 920 and two i7 980 systems running at 4.2GHz, 4.4GHz & 4.4GHz on air, and none ever go above 70c or make more than 38dBA, even when stress testing.

I also have a 6700K under the new Cryorig C7 in my HTPC.
 
I know that there is no real reason to do it, but on my new H80i GT I removed the default thermal pad and applied the Noctua NT-H1.

Only time I use the pre-applied TIM is if testing for a review. Even then I usually do a second test with my TIM. I've been using Chill Factor3 as I have a lot of it. NT-H1 is good stuff too.
 
Only time I use the pre-applied TIM is if testing for a review. Even then I usually do a second test with my TIM. I've been using Chill Factor3 as I have a lot of it. NT-H1 is good stuff too.

Yes, I used noctua on air coolers for years and never had problems.
I compared it with the Artic MX-4 and there is really no difference I can tell if not that I prefer the Noctua consistency.
 
Yes, I used noctua on air coolers for years and never had problems.
I compared it with the Artic MX-4 and there is really no difference I can tell if not that I prefer the Noctua consistency.
Indeed.
TIM is more about how good the print is than it's actual heat transfer ability. There are a couple of extreme TIMs, but they are expensive, hard to apply, and can damage things. For only 2c better heat transfer I don't think they are worth it unless doing OC competition like applications .. and at that level it's usually liquid nitrogen anyway. :D
 
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Truth is the only AIOs that are equal to top air coolers are Swiftech and EKWB Predator .. and neither of them are CLC. They basically are pre-assembled & pre-filled component kits .. with much better pumps, copper radiators, independent CPU waterblocks, and easy to add additional components, change / top off coolant, replace old components, etc to them. CLCs (Asetek originally called the LCLC (Low Cost Liquid Cooling)) are just that. cheap, disposable coolers. The only thing CLCs have in common with real water cooling loops is water.

Real water loop users think of CLCs as "wann-a-be" water coolers
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I also have a 6700K under the new Cryorig C7 in my HTPC.

"Truth is the only AIOs that are equal to top air coolers are Swiftech and EKWB Predator .. and neither of them are CLC."

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/ek_predator_240_aio_liquid_cooling_review,10.html

"I also have a 6700K under the new Cryorig C7 in my HTPC."

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/CRYORIG/C7/6.html

Noise! The last refuge of Air Benders.
 
"Truth is the only AIOs that are equal to top air coolers are Swiftech and EKWB Predator .. and neither of them are CLC."

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/ek_predator_240_aio_liquid_cooling_review,10.html

"I also have a 6700K under the new Cryorig C7 in my HTPC."

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/CRYORIG/C7/6.html

Noise! The last refuge of Air Benders.
You need to look at test procedure before you believe the results. Most resemble a snake oils barker's credentials. :p

When you show some real usable test results, I'll look. These reviews are just smoke and mirrors.

C7 test is LIAN LI PC-T60B, but based "a room temperature of 23°C (73°F) and with a 1°C margin of error". So 1c variance in room temp with no monitoring of air temp going into cooler. Just another cooking in the kitchen and going into closed bedroom to look at thermometer to see how hot the kitchen is. :D

Those are not really good tests, but a best they are nt tests of cooler performance.

"Little fake sailboats, the last refuge of CLC wet heads."

They are poor tests of how a specific system performs with different coolers. I don't use that system so my peformance is very different. But if your system is identical to theirs, their testing may have some relevance to you.

Can you post any credible testing based on the actual cooling ability of coolers? Some testing done in a scientific format and standards, not this garbage you linked to here.
 
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"Can you post any credible testing based on the actual cooling ability of coolers?"

http://tinyurl.com/p92hde9

Top air is nowhere to be found in the extreme results at the bottom of the page. No more time to waste on delusional luddites.
 
Top air is nowhere to be found in the extreme results at the bottom of the page. No more time to waste on delusional luddites.
Must be talking about yourself.
What is the test system, baseline air temp location, etc. It's easy to spout all kinds of data. Not so easy to find data based on credible testing procedure.
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Here is a good CPU heatsinks and cooler testing procedure
Testing Methodology

Although the testing of a cooler appears to be a simple task, that could not be much further from the truth. Proper thermal testing cannot be performed with a cooler mounted on a single chip, for multiple reasons. Some of these reasons include the instability of the thermal load and the inability to fully control and or monitor it, as well as the inaccuracy of the chip-integrated sensors. It is also impossible to compare results taken on different chips, let alone entirely different systems, which is a great problem when testing computer coolers, as the hardware changes every several months. Finally, testing a cooler on a typical system prevents the tester from assessing the most vital characteristic of a cooler, its absolute thermal resistance.

The absolute thermal resistance defines the absolute performance of a heatsink by indicating the temperature rise per unit of power, in our case in degrees Celsius per Watt (°C/W). In layman's terms, if the thermal resistance of a heatsink is known, the user can assess the highest possible temperature rise of a chip over ambient by simply multiplying the maximum thermal design power (TDP) rating of the chip with it. Extracting the absolute thermal resistance of a cooler however is no simple task, as the load has to be perfectly even, steady and variable, as the thermal resistance also varies depending on the magnitude of the thermal load. Therefore, even if it would be possible to assess the thermal resistance of a cooler while it is mounted on a working chip, it would not suffice, as a large change of the thermal load can yield much different results.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9415/top-tier-cpu-air-coolers-9way-roundup-review/11

Seriously. Look around at how many CLC owners have moved to top tier air coolers.
I too tried a H110I GT but sent it back the same day after hearing it's constant pump noise, a truly dreadful product only for those hard of hearing, or who don't mind noise.
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=28915027&postcount=10

I had the H110i and after a third pump issue binned it and got the Phantek PH-14 and it sits in the Corsair 650D with about an inch spare before the window so a 750D should have no issues with them, temps are about the same tbh as the H100 was.

Luckily I had low profile memory from the start, I could see the sticks with the large heatsinks would struggle under the heatsink clearance.
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=28915395&postcount=13

ive just replaced my H80i with the Phanteks PH-TC14PE and im really happy with it.
its doing a better job than the H80i done my temps are lower and my pc is fairly quiet now which is great
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=28916971&postcount=16

yea I think if youre going to go liquid you go custom loop. either that go for a high end air cooler..

I always liked my H80i but after reading a few threads on them leaking I started looking at air cooling.. I was surprised at the results I was seeing in reviews on the high end Air coolers comparing them to the AIO units so I went for it.. Im not disappointed


I also prefer the look of the Air cooler tbh

I know some folk like the way the AIO units look inside the case but Im liking the way it looks with the Air cooler
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=28916998&postcount=19

Installed the NH-D15 today, had to remount it twice as one the screws wasn't screwing in properly, annoying.

Overall the performance is very similar to the Corsair H105, at load the temps are pretty much exactly the same with the NH-D15.

Idle temps are lower and it's dead quiet, no more pump noise,so from that point of view I'm very happy with it.

Using the thermal grease that came with the cooler.

i7 4790K Idle 25C-30C - Max Load 77C @ 4.8GHz.
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=28935598&postcount=22

But I shouldn't bother. Your little sailboat mind is made up and you don't want to know the truth or facts. They would tarnish your view through your blue (water) tinted glasses. :D
 
pushing VCORE at 1.35V ant 74°C on the hottest core.
This small AIO is simply awesome. Amazed by it's performance.
 
I am going to quote myself from old threads.

This will sound crazy, I am on an older Haswell chip. I was stable @ 4.4 with Aida @ 1.232, Prime95 27.3 (non AVX) @ 1.254 and Arma 3 would crash alot. I got Arma 3 stables @ 1.268. I haven't had a BSOD doing anything else in over a year after this.

I5 4670K
L314A985 Malay
Cooled by an H110

4300 Mhz @ 1.218 is it for me, Temps are just to high for any more voltage.



The Linpack with AVX 2 is a beast. The Max Temps are with it, I have Prime95 running in the background so you can the difference in temps.

This is after a 15 minute run of real bench.



I am stable @ 4400 Mhz @1.268 V. As you can see temps can be all over the place depending on what test you use. I stopped here, with prime95 27.9 temps where approaching 90 C when stressed overnight.

If I were you, I would run this for a few hours and see what kind of heat soak you encounter. You can get prime95 27.7, non AVX 2 version here. http://www.mersenneforum.org/showthread.php?t=16779

I am interested to see the results
 
The Haswell E is either 6 or 8 cores. Much more overall heat than a 4 core. I think the bigger AIOs ore OK (240/280 or even 360 rads) but with your OC on the Haswell E the Corsair H80i is probably getting swamped with heat.

Look I'm custom rad crazy BUT I know the heat gain is being dissipated. I bought 2 digital external thermometers that read in Centigrade that I keep on the desk near each rig AND I use the XSPC temp probe with LCD readout for each custom loop so I can measure the delta in temp of the ambient air and idle water loop temp and the same ambient air and max water temp when running full bore. I get a 5 to 7C jump in delta. I also measure my temps of the cpu etc using AIDA 64.

In my 5960x rig OC'd to 4.4 Ghz 1.335 vcore my MAX core temp is 74C while most MAXes are 68C Average are lower.

Bottom line is sufficient rad space allows the heat build up to dissipate. Personally the H80i is probably getting swamped.
 
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