Budget Bill Heads To President's Desk With CISA Intact

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The Senate voted overwhelmingly today in favor of that $1.8 trillion spending bill package that also happens to contain the Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act. The legislation is off to the President’s desk for his signature. Thanks to everyone that sent this one in.

By sticking CISA into such a huge omnibus bill, there's basically no way it won't become law. And if anything, the version of CISA that was quietly slipped into this budget plays with privacy even faster and looser than the original. For one, a previously held prohibition against sharing information with the NSA has been removed, meaning America's best surveillance agency can receive pertinent data without it being handled by Homeland Security first.
 
Politicians that pull this kind of shit should be drug through the street by their balls. :mad:
 
American Fascism takes another creeping step onward. /I blame the parents who keep endowing their children with star spangled glasses at birth.
 
Dekoth-E- said:
Politicians that pull this kind of shit should be drug through the street by their balls. :mad:
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That's why it's called politics. Been going on long before we were all born and it will be going on long after we're all dead. Political compromise is a an ugly beast but a necessary thing unless one wants endless war.
 
Nope, nail their balls to a stump and kick them over backwards. RNC, DNC = POS village idiots!

Yes, Ryan is an incompetent buffoon. Followed by Barry what's his name. You know the guy that is about to take a $70k vacation in Hawaii, at tax payer expense.

Did any of you guys see the video of the Yale students signing the petition to repeal the first amendment? 50 signatures in 60 minutes. WASS!
 
So how many tries did it take them before they finally got what they wanted?
 
whiz187 said:
Yes, Ryan is an incompetent buffoon. Followed by Barry what's his name. You know the guy that is about to take a $70k vacation in Hawaii, at tax payer expense.
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I'll never get why people complain about the cost of US President's vacation. I don't have to like the person in the Office to at least understand that's a job that deserves and requires some perks.
 
heatlesssun said:
That's why it's called politics. Been going on long before we were all born and it will be going on long after we're all dead. Political compromise is a an ugly beast but a necessary thing unless one wants endless war.
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This. I hate that this was in there, but it is how you get people to vote for shit that they don't like. Democracy is all about compromise and this bill has plenty of things that piss off people on both sides.
 
Does it feel like it's getting warm in here to you guys?

ribbit
 
whiz187 said:
... Followed by Barry what's his name. You know the guy that is about to take a $70k vacation in Hawaii, at tax payer expense. ...
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His vacation is cheap compared to the cost of all lawmakers' vacations. And don't tell me they deserve it.
 
What happened to the line item veto that was introduced by the republicans a good while ago ?
 
whiz187 said:
Did any of you guys see the video of the Yale students signing the petition to repeal the first amendment? 50 signatures in 60 minutes. WASS!
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Just watched it--sad :*(
nilepez said:
This. I hate that this was in there, but it is how you get people to vote for shit that they don't like. Democracy is all about compromise and this bill has plenty of things that piss off people on both sides.
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What people don't like it? Seems like this is a 'the people' vs 'the money' situation.
 
Lith1um said:
American Fascism takes another creeping step onward. /I blame the parents who keep endowing their children with star spangled glasses at birth.
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It isn't even that. People don't want to be responsible for anything. Big brother should make us have to do things. I shouldn't have to not order 7 100oz soda with my 3lb burger. It should be made illegal for that to be sold. I shouldn't have to decide to watch my children outside, it should just be illegal for children to leave the house without an adult unless you have them on a 5 foot lease tied to the back door. I shouldn't have to be smart enough to not text and drive while shaving my face driving down the road, we need laws against that. I shouldn't have to decide not to play free to play games, instead it should be a felony to make free to play games that way I can't spend $100 a day on candy crush. I shouldn't have to make sure my house is child proof everything sold before 2005 should just be made illegal for a child to be around.... The average person on the street is perfectly fine with the government taking all the control they want or need to remove any freedom or self control they have. Government wants to go through all data to see if somebody is doing wrong? Ok, that's fine as that means I don't have to worry about reporting anything that I see as the government already knows about it
 
You're in the minority and you know what they say...
I know what Trump says about minorities and I think I'll earn an infraction if I repeat it.
 
It should seriously be ILLEGAL for them to slip in un-releated laws into huge bills that people don't even freaking read the entire damn thing.
 
Good old government doing what it can for the the people by the people. Great job house and congress....
 
Stiler said:
It should seriously be ILLEGAL for them to slip in un-releated laws into huge bills that people don't even freaking read the entire damn thing.
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You'd think. But it's what they do. Piggybacking unrelated bills and then they usually get it through by giving it some omnious name, like "Act to Prevent Raping & Murdering of Innocent Children" when it's really just a defense budget bill.
 
Everyone should know both parties for the most part are in collusion. There is really only one party now. The people on the far left and right are the ones who clearly do not see this as a problem. With this and whats going on with Sander's its clear that the powers that be want the status quo to not change in 2016 election.
 
whiz187 said:
Followed by Barry what's his name. You know the guy that is about to take a $70k vacation in Hawaii, at tax payer expense.
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False. presidents pay for their vacations, unless they're at home, friends or some place like Camp David.

No matter where they go, they have hundreds of staffers that follow (which we do pay for), because the president is always working.

Source(4th bullet): https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...a969c6-2311-11e4-958c-268a320a60ce_story.html
 
nilepez said:
False. presidents pay for their vacations, unless they're at home, friends or some place like Camp David.

No matter where they go, they have hundreds of staffers that follow (which we do pay for), because the president is always working.

Source(4th bullet): https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...a969c6-2311-11e4-958c-268a320a60ce_story.html
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It's just a silly argument however it's sliced. Does the Pope pay for his trips? How in the world does someone like a US President move about with costs far above average people? I don't care who the hell holds the Office, I'm not going to complain about vacation expenses of the person that has control of the deadliest killing machine ever created. It's a responsibility that no one here has clue about including myself.

It's one thing to be cynical, it's another to be asinine.
 
Of course part of it is that Obama is so jive and cool like a rock star they gotta beef up his security.
 
It was Interesting that just a few weeks ago all the hacks came out of the woodwork citing the need for encryption to be bypassed - and now we find out Obama blocks law enforcement from being able to read social media sites of immigrants who might be most likely to be violent (and Bernadino shooters had inspirational Jihad posts). This gov works harder at protecting enemies.
 
roma said:
It was Interesting that just a few weeks ago all the hacks came out of the woodwork citing the need for encryption to be bypassed - and now we find out Obama blocks law enforcement from being able to read social media sites of immigrants who might be most likely to be violent (and Bernadino shooters had inspirational Jihad posts). This gov works harder at protecting enemies.
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Because you can use the internet does not mean you describe everything you want do or think on social media.

There are plenty of people joking around about doing stuff that is illegal and are being punished for it even if they had no intention of doing it anyway.

But if you want some criminals to get caught because they posted stuff like a bullseye on people this happens and guess what no encryption ....

http://gawker.com/5728545/shot-congresswoman-was-in-sarah-palins-crosshairs
 
America today is closer to another revelation to people that it is run, now, to the exclusion of its people. you have three quarters saying the government does not rule with the consent of the governed. The 1.1 trillion 2,000 page omnibus bill is the disaster because of the deals being cut.
 
Every time I see a story like this, I relish in the chance to challenge all the skinny-jean wearing Snowden worshippers to identify something he did that truly made the world better.

Go ahead. I'm not going anywhere.
 
potency said:
Every time I see a story like this, I relish in the chance to challenge all the skinny-jean wearing Snowden worshippers to identify something he did that truly made the world better.

Go ahead. I'm not going anywhere.
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Well, prior to the Snowden releases, people only had basic, unfounded suspicions that the government was into shady shit, at home and abroad.

Now. Now we KNOW they are. And can, eventually, try to fix it.
 
Chas said:
Well, prior to the Snowden releases, people only had basic, unfounded suspicions that the government was into shady shit, at home and abroad.

Now. Now we KNOW they are. And can, eventually, try to fix it.
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Right, because this is the first generation to not trust the government and all the shady shit it is doing...
 
potency said:
Right, because this is the first generation to not trust the government and all the shady shit it is doing...
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Again: know vs believe. Facts vs Opinion. That's what Snowden did. You seem to imply that Snowden is only meaningful if he released the info and changed the constitution to prevent omnibus bills too (never mind the negative consequences that would come from that).
 
nilepez said:
Again: know vs believe. Facts vs Opinion. That's what Snowden did. You seem to imply that Snowden is only meaningful if he released the info and changed the constitution to prevent omnibus bills too (never mind the negative consequences that would come from that).
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I'm implying nothing.

But taking your "fact vs. opinion" angle and running with it, the fact remains that nothing has changed. People have been openly "talking" about changing things since the 60's. And what happened? Those people grew up, got elected to Congress, and passed this bill.

One thing I will give you, is that people talked about it a little bit more for a few months. And no one enjoys being seen talking about it more than Snowden. But the world is no better than it was before his "revelation." Talk isn't tangible. Bills that the President signs are.

The ideas behind your idealism are nothing new. But ideas, like re-hashed talk, do not constitute real change.
 
potency said:
Right, because this is the first generation to not trust the government and all the shady shit it is doing...
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Reread what I said.

BEFORE (as in previous generations), there was, mostly, only SUSPICION of what was going on. Most of it was kept away from public scrutiny.

Snowden's one of the people who showed us, FACTUALLY, that the government is fucking around in ways they should not be.

That's every bit as significant as Mark Felt (aka Deep Throat) and the Watergate scandal.
 
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