NEC Closeout $145 refurbished EA274wmi

QwaarJet said:
Looks awesome man, congrats! Was so happy to just place an order for the EA274WMi that I didn't even look at the other options. Would have definitely picked one up! Upgrade the 55" in the bedroom and place the 55 in my home office :D
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Those colors.:) Which model did you get?
 
Received my E243WMi today and it's a solid upgrade from my EA231WMi. It weighs about half as much, it's a lot brighter thanks to the LED backlighting and the pixel response time is noticeably faster.

It does exhibit IPS glow which is more apparent with the slightly larger panel at the short distance I'm sitting at which creates some bad angles. I wish the stand let me put it a few inches higher. Otherwise I'm a happy camper!
 
got my 65, its nice and big. but fucking heavy lol, its an xmas gift so trying to move this thing around to its hiding place is a bitch!
 
Set up my 46" P463 and was instantly disappointed. Pretty severe backlight bleed and clouding. My budget plasma TV still trumps it in picture quality, especially black levels. I'll be returning this for sure.
 
Plasma are always going to have better pictures, especially blacks. Only thing that could compare to Plasma of the 2012/2013 are the new OLED. LCD/LED are still behind.
 
Skinwalker said:
Set up my 46" P463 and was instantly disappointed. Pretty severe backlight bleed and clouding. My budget plasma TV still trumps it in picture quality, especially black levels. I'll be returning this for sure.
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turn down the brightness (not backlight)
 
I'm pretty ecstatic with my V652-R, just got it mounted in my computer room and started playing with it. The picture is pretty fantastic although there's a lot of light bleed so far on the vga input but doesn't appear to be there over HDMI.

As long as it displays a picture at all though it's a pretty damn good steal at $179 but I'm pretty damn happy with it overall anyway but the speakers are laughably bad but it was never meant to be in a home cinema :D

Obligatory terrible iPhone pic
 
xxxkaliboyxxx said:
I was responding to this guy who wasn't happy with his 100 dollar big screen :D
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No mine was $530, originally $1800. I'll have to take a pic to show you guys how truly awful this thing is. There is bleed in all 4 corners, really bad bleed on top, but the worst is the edge lighting. It looks like it shoots streaks of edge light all across the screen in bright bars.
 
guitarslingerchris said:
I'm pretty ecstatic with my V652-R, just got it mounted in my computer room and started playing with it. The picture is pretty fantastic although there's a lot of light bleed so far on the vga input but doesn't appear to be there over HDMI.

As long as it displays a picture at all though it's a pretty damn good steal at $179 but I'm pretty damn happy with it overall anyway but the speakers are laughably bad but it was never meant to be in a home cinema :D

Obligatory terrible iPhone pic
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Not sure if you or anyone with the 65 is interested, but I am planning to calibrate mine in the next day or two, and can post the settings I change.
 
Default settings, shows the bleed and poor panel uniformity
http://imgur.com/gn218lB

Backlight very low for my dark room
http://imgur.com/OigWKdQ

Same frame with default brightness
http://imgur.com/Xdq9kDW

Another shot showing this edge lighting. I've never seen anything like this.
http://imgur.com/zGyBB62

I was mainly interested in the high contrast VA panel for a good price, but it seems that these displays are simply not applicable to home theater use. Or maybe mine is simply a lemon.
 
Skinwalker said:
Default settings, shows the bleed and poor panel uniformity
http://imgur.com/gn218lB

Backlight very low for my dark room
http://imgur.com/OigWKdQ

Same frame with default brightness
http://imgur.com/Xdq9kDW

Another shot showing this edge lighting. I've never seen anything like this.
http://imgur.com/zGyBB62

I was mainly interested in the high contrast VA panel for a good price, but it seems that these displays are simply not applicable to home theater use. Or maybe mine is simply a lemon.
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Damn, that sucks. My previous 65 was one of the fucking incredible Panasonic P65VT60s so this doesn't exactly compare to that but the panel they sent me is something I would have been happy with paying their actual refurb price for which I think was $1079 so I think you got a lemon.
 
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Skinwalker said:
Default settings, shows the bleed and poor panel uniformity
http://imgur.com/gn218lB

Backlight very low for my dark room
http://imgur.com/OigWKdQ

Same frame with default brightness
http://imgur.com/Xdq9kDW

Another shot showing this edge lighting. I've never seen anything like this.
http://imgur.com/zGyBB62

I was mainly interested in the high contrast VA panel for a good price, but it seems that these displays are simply not applicable to home theater use. Or maybe mine is simply a lemon.
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They're made to excel in very high lit areas, so doubt they consider backlight bleed a defect on this line. Hopefully they let you return it, but they might want a "smoking gun" type of defect especially being a refurb.
 
Anyone else having DP problems? with an EA274WMi?

I've got a Sapphire 290X Tri-X and I just got an Accell DP cable since the two I had (that worked fine with my old HP zr24w, or with my old MSI 280 card) and it works fine with the desktop, but I get nasty graphical glitches and blackouts when I'm actually playing a game(!); with my other two DP cables even the desktop is glitchy!); no problems with HDMI or DVI though. I was expecting DP to be awesome, but so far it's pretty pathetic. I've never had a problem with either HDMI or DVI (or VGA for that matter, unless I've had a really cheap cable).
 
snclawson said:
Anyone else having DP problems? with an EA274WMi?

I've got a Sapphire 290X Tri-X and I just got an Accell DP cable since the two I had (that worked fine with my old HP zr24w, or with my old MSI 280 card) and it works fine with the desktop, but I get nasty graphical glitches and blackouts when I'm actually playing a game(!); with my other two DP cables even the desktop is glitchy!); no problems with HDMI or DVI though. I was expecting DP to be awesome, but so far it's pretty pathetic. I've never had a problem with either HDMI or DVI (or VGA for that matter, unless I've had a really cheap cable).
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Yep, I'm in the exchange process now. They didn't mention any common problem with DP over tech support, but it sounds like the same issue I was having. I only had one DP cable to test with. HDMI worked but doesn't support 60 Hz refresh rate. Couldn't find a DVI-D DL cable and figured the DP would work, so I was pretty disappointed when my new cable didn't work with the monitor. Other people in this thread have mentioned cable quality as a possible issue.
 
I bought this Displayport cable and I had to unplug and plug my Samsung monitor in every hour at least to make it work. Sometimes I would have to pause my games for 30 minutes to get an image on screen. Turn on 3D? Forget about it!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003B3N27G?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage

So I bought this el cheapo cable and it works most of the time. It doesn't like for my monitor to go to sleep though. I'm a cheap ass so this is kinda acceptable. So I will just use my second monitor to reset my PC as I've gotten tired of getting up and walking over to the tower and unplugging it.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005H3Q59U?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage

Since wasting all of the money above, I've concluded that buying a proper cable might be the way to go. So I'm going to look on the list I linked on the last page and choose an Accell DisplayPort cable. From what I understand from reading conversations on the subject, the cable really does matter. Especially if running 1440p and above resolutions. Expecting a cheap cable to work is fruitless. Might as well toss in a broken video card and expect it to work also.

Just my 2 cents.

Accell official Twitter.
https://twitter.com/AccellCables

Accell official website.
http://www.accellcables.com/

Displayport listing of compatible products.
http://www.displayport.org/products...ry[]=cables-connectors&products_manufacturer=
 
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If you did not get this "deal" thank your lucky stars. These monitors should be advertised USED, not refurbished or reconditioned. The first monitor I received had an obvious series of 5-6 lines running up from bottom to top. By obvious, I mean you turn it on and it's staring you in the face. Cannot be fixed without returning for repair. So, NEC offers replacement monitor. I receive replacement. The first thing I notice before I take it out of the box is again an obvious thick layer of dust in the vents. Take it out and the next thing I notice is something splattered on the screen. Turn it on, again, obvious damage to the screen. Looks like someone pushed something into it until a few areas on the screen were damaged and appear as white spots. No one inspected these, much less reconditioned them. The NEC rep even agreed this is the case. I've bought a lot of refurbished products from various places, and usually they are reconditioned and functional, not just damaged units thrown into a box. I would just buy a new monitor at this point from a retailer, but I don't know if NEC will refund me for these garbage monitors. Embarrassingly bad for NEC's reputation that they even tried to pass these off as "reconditioned." They shouldn't bother describing "reconditioned" on their website as it is laughable when you actually see the condition the units are in: dirty and damaged. I've used NEC graphics monitors for years. Very disappointed in NEC.
 
Iching said:
Buy a new one then. What's holding you back?
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NEC's refurbished policy. They say they only offer replacement or repair. Not sure if that will apply here as they have agreed that the monitor I received was not inspected or refurbished. Don't know yet if I'll have to take it to CC dispute. I'll know more next week. Bottom line: Don't buy refurbished monitors from NEC. Clearly they are sending out some monitors that are just used and damaged, not refurbished nor repaired. Again, this would not be a problem if they just listed them as used. But read NEC's description of their refurbished monitors,

"Refurbished products are cleaned, quality checked, tested and repackaged by our authorized refurbishing center.
Our refurbished items are high quality. In fact, our refurbished goods have a very low return rate because they are rigorously inspected and tested for proper working condition and quality. All items are returned to like-new condition."

What I received was not cleaned, not tested (not even turned on because you would immediately see the damage), not inspected, and definitely not returned to like-new condition. I'm not talking small cosmetic flaws...I'm talking obvious dirt and screen damage that renders the monitor useless for its intended use. I mean, who sends out a reconditioned monitor with dirt in the vents, splatter on the screen, and actual physical damage to the screen to boot? NEC does.

Basically it appears their real policy is to throw used, returned monitors in a box, send 'em out and see if you take it in the damaged condition. If you do not find the damaged condition acceptable, THEN you have to send it back for repair and that is when the monitor will actually be reconditioned.

Was definitely repackaged, though. That part of their description is accurate. :)

I wouldn't have a problem with any of this if they just accurately described the products as "used, as is." Because I would never have even touched one. But I actually called NEC before I purchased, talked to sales, and talked to tech, and both assured me of the high quality of their reconditioned monitors. Hardly. I've never received a refurb from anywhere that was not only damaged, but had dirt and splatter on it. The replacement for the first damaged one had as bad or worse damage as the first one. Crazy.
 
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I will have a pic up for xmas (I bought a stand for it so once its mounted I will take some)
 
I can confirm that these are a real gamble. The P463 TV I posted about earlier was so defective that there's just no way that someone actually inspected it, let alone repaired it. My P272 monitor on the other hand looked brand new and is phenomenal. Their support is pretty good though, and I'm currently RMAing that TV with no problems. There's no way I could afford these at full price, so I'm OK with taking a chance on these refurbs.
 
I am so glad i didn't bite for one of these monitors , i got a 1440p 27" from Monoprice and it's amazing. Not 1 dead pixel i see with naked eye from 2 feet away and super bright. Has Minimal Black light bleed but very very little on top on only dark scenes. Also was a bit more but worth it 249$ free shipping.
 
Slystealth said:
I am so glad i didn't bite for one of these monitors , i got a 1440p 27" from Monoprice and it's amazing. Not 1 dead pixel i see with naked eye from 2 feet away and super bright. Has Minimal Black light bleed but very very little on top on only dark scenes. Also was a bit more but worth it 249$ free shipping.
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Did you just report me?:D I'll take a NEC over Monoprice any day.
 
Iching said:
Did you just report me?:D I'll take a NEC over Monoprice any day.
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Yeah, I don't even know what this post means. I'll take a worse monitor for more money?

Anyways, I got my replacement monitor and unfortunately the DP isn't working at 1440p 60Hz so it's probably an issue with the new DP cable I just spent $25 on. Should have a working cable delivered later today. Hope that fixes the problem! Otherwise I would guess it's an issue with the K620 DP output.
 
Powerage said:
Yeah, I don't even know what this post means. I'll take a worse monitor for more money?

Anyways, I got my replacement monitor and unfortunately the DP isn't working at 1440p 60Hz so it's probably an issue with the new DP cable I just spent $25 on. Should have a working cable delivered later today. Hope that fixes the problem! Otherwise I would guess it's an issue with the K620 DP output.
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He reported me for trolling. He is posting about Monoprice here. :rolleyes: :eek: I still prefer DVI-D to DP. It looks like a video/cable problem.
 
Iching said:
He reported me for trolling. He is posting about Monoprice here. :rolleyes: :eek: I still prefer DVI-D to DP. It looks like a video/cable problem.
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Yeah, I probably should have just bought a DVI-D DL cable but for whatever reason I thought getting the DP would be better cause I can use it for higher resolutions in the future. Hopefully it doesn't give me any more problems.
 
Powerage & Iching , I didn't report anyone. Maybe stop being immature about monitors? All i stated was i enjoy this monitor alot and it's nice without taking a gamble.
 
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