ForrestCrump
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Man that's pretty ridiculous if that's the case. Not a lot of people just have spare ddr4 sticks of varying sizes laying around.
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X99 on mITX: ASRock X99E-itx/ac
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Man that's pretty ridiculous if that's the case. Not a lot of people just have spare ddr4 sticks of varying sizes laying around.
16GB sticks were not available until a few months ago. Not really a problem specific to this board as numerous people have reported it with both X99 and Z170 chipset boards.
iFreilicht
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Awesome idea!
I have the same RAM, they are not on the compatibility list
Can confirm the above posts, you need to update to BIOS v1.4
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Excellent idea! I went a different route by modding an EK Supremacy ILM Mounting plate though it was necessary to slightly offset the cooler to avoid interference with the RAM (it will still completely cover the CPU though). Low profile RAM may have helped here but I wanted 16gb sticks and I don't think any shorter ones exist yet.
Yeah. Opps I should have done better research. A quick trip to Microcenter to pick up some different RAM and all is well. Glad I hadn't stopped at UPS prior to reading the message above.
Two 35mm thick AIOs is a tight squeeze but everything is working great.
inchikiboze
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Will 16 GB ECC sticks such as the Crucial 2133s (CT2K16G4RFD4213) work without the BIOS update? I've seen a few Xeon builds on this thread with ECC.
Yes, those will. I have one such build myself. You'll obviously need a Xeon CPU for that since the ECC RAM will not work with the Core i7 line. 32GB ECC sticks require an update though as far as I'm aware (which came out before the one for 16GB non-ECC memory).
inchikiboze
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Thanks. Very useful information to have as I think about moving to a new build. Something like a 1650 v3 with 32 GB of ECC would make for quite a powerful little workstation.
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FYI, its seems that it is possible to use 2x32GB sticks with a Xeon for a full 64GB. This manufacturer is selling such a config...
http://www.boxxtech.com/products/apexx-1
Maybe they have modded the BIOS to accept this config. Anyone feeling brave enough to try it on their machine??
Also, my method of getting the Corsair H100i cooler to contact fully with the CPU was to cut a gasket from KLINGERsil (nitrile) that fit between the ASRock included bracket and the cooler block. Worked a treat, but appreciate it may be somewhat more difficult to get hold of.
http://www.boxxtech.com/products/apexx-1
Maybe they have modded the BIOS to accept this config. Anyone feeling brave enough to try it on their machine??
Also, my method of getting the Corsair H100i cooler to contact fully with the CPU was to cut a gasket from KLINGERsil (nitrile) that fit between the ASRock included bracket and the cooler block. Worked a treat, but appreciate it may be somewhat more difficult to get hold of.
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Hermit2001
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I thought I remembered the Asrock memory support list saying that it only supported 1x 32GB so, this would be new info. Currently the list just doesn't say whether its in single or dual channel mode, so this company confirms that it can take dual channel 32GB ECC. Only trying to be helpful
Hey guys, if you are having difficulty tightening the Noctua C14 to the CPU socket, I found that adding a 1-1.5mm washer between the CPU cooler base and the mounting bracket making it easy. Check the picture at this URL http://imgur.com/EUWrRRY
Excellent idea! I went a different route by modding an EK Supremacy ILM Mounting plate though it was necessary to slightly offset the cooler to avoid interference with the RAM (it will still completely cover the CPU though). Low profile RAM may have helped here but I wanted 16gb sticks and I don't think any shorter ones exist yet.
Hmmm... that's got me very tempted to switch my build for this block, instead of my Aquacomputer... I really want to free up space for a second 240mm rad.
Or a 1680 V3 (5960X equivalent)
Guys, I asked Noctua for an narrow ILM kit and this is what they had to say:
I already ordered my D15 and sent them the invoice for my motherboard and cooler.
Does anyone have a spare narrow ILM kit perhaps?.. I really want the D15.
I will reply and link them this thread... as they do have ILM kits for X99 as you guys have received them!
I already ordered my D15 and sent them the invoice for my motherboard and cooler.
Does anyone have a spare narrow ILM kit perhaps?.. I really want the D15.
I will reply and link them this thread... as they do have ILM kits for X99 as you guys have received them!
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Excellent idea! I went a different route by modding an EK Supremacy ILM Mounting plate though it was necessary to slightly offset the cooler to avoid interference with the RAM (it will still completely cover the CPU though). Low profile RAM may have helped here but I wanted 16gb sticks and I don't think any shorter ones exist yet.
What did you use for heatsinks on your m.2 drive?
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With the increased TDP of these larger chips I definitely think its worth it.
Or a 1680 V3 (5960X equivalent)
Coupled with 64gb or even 128gb ECC DDR4 sticks, that would make for quite a formidable portable workstation.
I got these 20x20x6mm heat sinks. Definitely recommend them, they work great. I ended up using them on all of my m.2 drives.
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Did you need to remove any stickers on the M.2 SSD?
I wanted to do something similar, but didn't want to void any warranties; ended up using more fans instead
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How does this build look, in terms of everything I need to purchase to get myself going?
NCASE M1 no ODD (already have, waiting for a build)
Asrock X99E-ITXac
Silverstone 600w SFX
Intel Core i7 5820K (edit: just bought a Xeon E5-2676)
Noctua NH-C14 (or Corsair H100i/H105)
MSI GTX 980 Ti Gaming 6G - Is there a better non-reference for this case?
Vengeance LPX 32GB DDR4-2400 (2x16GB) - (Edit: gonna need ECC now that I have a 2676)
Mushkin Reactor 1TB SATA SSD - am I kidding myself? Should I just get a 512GB M2?
Misc parts:
Narrow ILM Noctua mount - on the way from Noctua
Intel 7260​ Mini PCI-​E Wireless​ AC - for that smooth reliable performance
Fans - Do I need any additional and where?
Cable kit - I was told I need low profile PCI power cables to fit the MSI 980 Ti, is there a good place to get this or a nice set of short cabling for a good price?
Windows 10 license, Arctic Silver, undetermined keyboard/mouse
Couple lingering questions:
Going water kills my ability to travel with this, right? I may need to take it with me through airports occasionally and if this makes it impossible without checking, I may have to go Noctua. Will the C14 give me enough headroom to get to 4ghz on a good chip?
Also, am I able to fit a 3.5" hard drive in there without totally screwing myself in terms of airflow? I've got a 3TB drive that would be useful to have. I may just go 2.5" and keep getting SSDs in the future, but would be good to save the immediate cost and slap a big storage drive in there.
Can I run an internal speaker with this mobo? I'd love to stuff a small driver in there like a build I saw on here, but wasn't sure how it connects.
Lastly, anything I'm overlooking? This is going to be a 60% video editing and 40% 4K gaming setup. I plan on trying to break 10 cores next year when and if i can find a secondhand Xeon or the new -E refresh for a decent price.
Thanks for bearing with me as I'm getting close to a final list - haven't built since 2005 and have never built an ITX so I'm just trying to make sure I have the bases covered.
NCASE M1 no ODD (already have, waiting for a build)
Asrock X99E-ITXac
Silverstone 600w SFX
Intel Core i7 5820K (edit: just bought a Xeon E5-2676)
Noctua NH-C14 (or Corsair H100i/H105)
MSI GTX 980 Ti Gaming 6G - Is there a better non-reference for this case?
Vengeance LPX 32GB DDR4-2400 (2x16GB) - (Edit: gonna need ECC now that I have a 2676)
Mushkin Reactor 1TB SATA SSD - am I kidding myself? Should I just get a 512GB M2?
Misc parts:
Narrow ILM Noctua mount - on the way from Noctua
Intel 7260​ Mini PCI-​E Wireless​ AC - for that smooth reliable performance
Fans - Do I need any additional and where?
Cable kit - I was told I need low profile PCI power cables to fit the MSI 980 Ti, is there a good place to get this or a nice set of short cabling for a good price?
Windows 10 license, Arctic Silver, undetermined keyboard/mouse
Couple lingering questions:
Going water kills my ability to travel with this, right? I may need to take it with me through airports occasionally and if this makes it impossible without checking, I may have to go Noctua. Will the C14 give me enough headroom to get to 4ghz on a good chip?
Also, am I able to fit a 3.5" hard drive in there without totally screwing myself in terms of airflow? I've got a 3TB drive that would be useful to have. I may just go 2.5" and keep getting SSDs in the future, but would be good to save the immediate cost and slap a big storage drive in there.
Can I run an internal speaker with this mobo? I'd love to stuff a small driver in there like a build I saw on here, but wasn't sure how it connects.
Lastly, anything I'm overlooking? This is going to be a 60% video editing and 40% 4K gaming setup. I plan on trying to break 10 cores next year when and if i can find a secondhand Xeon or the new -E refresh for a decent price.
Thanks for bearing with me as I'm getting close to a final list - haven't built since 2005 and have never built an ITX so I'm just trying to make sure I have the bases covered.
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Phuncz
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While my 950 Pro is free-floating in an Asus Maximus VII Impact, I have yet to see it go above 60°C while gaming, idling at 52-53°C.Did you need to remove any stickers on the M.2 SSD?
I wanted to do something similar, but didn't want to void any warranties; ended up using more fans instead
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Did you need to remove any stickers on the M.2 SSD?
I wanted to do something similar, but didn't want to void any warranties; ended up using more fans instead
Yes, I just removed the stickers using a blow dryer and stuck them to the other side. I don't think it should be too much trouble putting the stickers back in the original spot if you ever need to get the drive warrantied.
Well, after planning my build out with a 5820k, I just impulse bought the mysterious Xeon E5-2676 (ES) 12-core for cheaper than I could have had my 5820k. I understand what I'm buying with the ES chip, but my plan is to probably swap for a higher clocked 10-core once the new -E stuff comes out since Premiere Pro CPU utilization sort of drops off after 10 cores
Can you change the base clock with this motherboard and locked Xeons? LinusTechTips seems to have been able to with is Asus X99 Deluxe and an 18-core chip.
Can you change the base clock with this motherboard and locked Xeons? LinusTechTips seems to have been able to with is Asus X99 Deluxe and an 18-core chip.
Yes, you can change the base clock, but you won't be able to push it too far maybe 1.03 to 1.05x before you get serious instabilities. Should be enough to get you another 100 MHz or so though!
Another another member reported the 2676 V3 working fine with this board
Yes, you can change the base clock, but you won't be able to push it too far–– maybe 1.03 to 1.05x before you get serious instabilities. Should be enough to get you another 100 MHz or so though!
Another another member reported the 2676 V3 working fine with this board
Awesome. It's a voltage issue, not cooling right? Seems the cores are set at around .875v to account for the fact that there's a ton of them. I wish you could switch off cores/adjust voltage to effectively create a 5820K or 5960X for those times you want higher single-core clocks. You sort of can make a 5820K out of a 5960X in this manner, by shutting off two cores and gaining a bit of OC headroom.
Hope this is a good move on my part - compared with a 5820K that I planned on running at 4ghz, the 2.4 base 3.0 boost and max 2.7ghz with all cores is a definite single-thread downgrade. We'll see if it really affects my workload and occasional gaming needs. Right now my sole machine is a Late 2013 Retina MacBook Pro 15" with a 2.3ghz i7 4850HQ, so it should be an all around big move from this thing.
Yeah it would be great if it were possible to do. It's not just a voltage issue, Intel totally blocks changing the multipliers beyond that of the max turbo for their Xeon chips even if they can realistically clock higher given the same voltage or better cooling.
Depending on what you need this could be still be an incredible value. If your work load is well threaded then this is a no brainer. Games are also becoming more optimized for multi-threaded tasks!
I'm doing a lot of Premiere Pro CC 2015 4K h.264/XAVC work, some After Effects work, DaVinci, and a little Cinema4D here and there (which I hear is totally CPU bound, not sure if it likes faster single thread or core count). I may run a small Hackintosh partition as I've seen it done on this CPU purely for compatibility with the rest of my team - but maybe not. We've got a 6-core trashcan-style Mac Pro and aren't super impressed with its performance for this work - namely because the dual AMD D500s are barely utilized in Adobe apps. I'm guessing the 980 Ti is going to be a nice upgrade in that regard.
Either way, for 300 bucks? Figured it would be insane to say no.
Hmm, not sure actually. I've just seen the C14 used the most in this thread but haven't seen a D9 fitted in any pics (also it's hard to search because of it's two characters). Do you know of anyone running this cooler?
Also, regarding OS X, I found this thread:
http://www.tonymacx86.com/yosemite-desktop-guides/170818-12-core-x99-hackintosh-pro-build.html
..which gave me hope that a hackintosh setup may be viable, especially as he's using the same CPU as I am (though non-ES. Hope the ES designation doesn't make it worse). Not sure if you've seen this guy's topic before, but some of it may be helpful in getting an X99 system running.
This made me lean to the d9:
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1431-page1.html
That's the case and d9 with a different mobo.
Have a blower 970, pretty interesting the watered the gpu but not the cpu
The hack is viable for sure, there are a few people have done it with this board. But Apple obviously don't cater for hardware they don't use in their systems. So expect oddities. Had a hack a few years ago, all it did was make me decide to buy a Mac mini, then the pro tower shortly after.
Nox
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1431-page1.html
That's the case and d9 with a different mobo.
Have a blower 970, pretty interesting the watered the gpu but not the cpu
The hack is viable for sure, there are a few people have done it with this board. But Apple obviously don't cater for hardware they don't use in their systems. So expect oddities. Had a hack a few years ago, all it did was make me decide to buy a Mac mini, then the pro tower shortly after.
Nox
The ES designation is no problem.
The only concern right now is that the PCI kexts in El Capitan and Yosemite aren't compatible with the 5690X or these Xeons yet. Thus, you have to use the 10.9.5 kexts to get Yosemite booting, which works great, but there is no solution for El Capitan yet. You can even get speed step, turbo, and sleep if you inject the right CPU ID.
I have the opposite problem - an empty case with no parts except a Xeon somewhere in mail world.
The D9 looks proper in there too, never thought of using that one but it seems to make more sense having it just dump the air out the back rather than push the air down and then around the rest of the case.
Do you think I can get away with the Asrock cooler (lol) for the first few days with the Xeon? I think my Narrow ILM mount from Noctua won't arrive until after Christmas.