Black Friday Sales Numbers Are Useless And Wrong

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Wait, does this mean all those other Black Friday stories were useless and wrong?

Unfortunately, preliminary Black Friday reports contain almost no useful information about the state of the economy. The first round of stories — the ones on Thursday evening or Friday — are driven almost entirely by anecdote: How many people showed up at the mall where a TV crew happened to set up its cameras? How long do the lines seem to be compared to last year, according to a mall manager with a vested interest in making sales look good? How much was spent by the handful of families willing to talk to journalists on their way back to the car? These stories help fill airtime on what is typically a slow news weekend, but they aren’t good for much else.
 
Stores have big sales and tout their numbers, all while trying to keep the kill count low.

This and other stories at 11.
 
I believe they don't include online sales in the numbers. Not sure about you guys, but I don't step foot in a retail store anymore :) I have already spent a good chunk of change at Amazon and some at Bestbuy.com (I actually hate BB, but I had a lot of gift cards I've accumulated.)

My wife said the lines last night and today were not bad. She said it was not as crowded as normal. This could just be where I live, but I suspect online sales are replacing a lot of it. Honestly, why would you want to fight the lines when you can order from your house? Except for a few potential doorbuster deals, you really aren't saving much.
 
Black Friday has above average deals, but the best ones happen in December.
 
I got an LG 55" 4K TV (8000 series IPS) for $699. Seems like a legit deal.

It was worth $699 just to see my cats sit in front of the tv for hours watching 4k youtube videos of birds and squirrels.
 
I have a 50" Panasonic Plasma that's several years old and still has a great picture. I'll buy a new 4K TV the same day I bury the Panasonic.
 
I believe they don't include online sales in the numbers. Not sure about you guys, but I don't step foot in a retail store anymore :) I have already spent a good chunk of change at Amazon and some at Bestbuy.com (I actually hate BB, but I had a lot of gift cards I've accumulated.)

My wife said the lines last night and today were not bad. She said it was not as crowded as normal. This could just be where I live, but I suspect online sales are replacing a lot of it. Honestly, why would you want to fight the lines when you can order from your house? Except for a few potential doorbuster deals, you really aren't saving much.

Actually they do...i heard on the news that '3 billion in online sales took place on thankgiving and today'.....lol really they have that number already? from where?
 
Actually they do...i heard on the news that '3 billion in online sales took place on thankgiving and today'.....lol really they have that number already? from where?

The credit card companies likely sell the information. They knew everything we buy and make a small fortune from the analytics they sell.

The retailers (Amazon, BestBuy, Walmart, etc) probably have to be a little careful with the information they release. Since they are publicly traded companies, the information would have to pass SEC scrutiny.
 
The credit card companies likely sell the information. They knew everything we buy and make a small fortune from the analytics they sell.

The retailers (Amazon, BestBuy, Walmart, etc) probably have to be a little careful with the information they release. Since they are publicly traded companies, the information would have to pass SEC scrutiny.

Crazy that they sell that info just to talk about sales numbers on the news.....:D:D
 
I saw a lot of "doorbuster" sales for stuff I didn't want and almost everything else was a typical price. I spent <$5 on Black Friday sale items and put a little extra into retirement savings. I should do that every year.
 
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