Battlefield 4 **Official Discussion Thread**

bunch of over-scrupulous nerds in here :D. they're excited (and drumming up some excitement) about a free throw-back map they're making. i don't see a need to pick apart their tweet.
 
I, for one, am quite excited. I have a feeling this map will be the last action for me in BF4. It's getting a little long in the tooth as they say.
 
How on earth is there any better multiplayer shooter than Battlefield 4?

Maps are like 40x bigger than a CoD map. Helis, tanks, jets, vehicles, many many weapons and many many customizations, a ton of maps, hardcore mode and softcore, several game modes, and as well, visually stunning and has top notch sound.

What on earth is there to hate about this game IF you are a fan of mutiplayer shooters?

I just don't get it.
 
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thinking about getting back into BF4. i saw the premium membership is $16 at origin. any idea if its the lowest its been?

is anyone even playing BF4 premium anymore?
 
DF-1 said:
thinking about getting back into BF4. i saw the premium membership is $16 at origin. any idea if its the lowest its been?

is anyone even playing BF4 premium anymore?
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Doesn't premium just mean you get all the DLC? If that is what you are asking then yes, lots of people play various maps/game modes from the DLC so I would highly recommend it at that price. I bought BF4 and Premium on launch and am very happy with the value, BF4 is amazing now.
 
grambo said:
Doesn't premium just mean you get all the DLC? If that is what you are asking then yes, lots of people play various maps/game modes from the DLC so I would highly recommend it at that price. I bought BF4 and Premium on launch and am very happy with the value, BF4 is amazing now.
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I agree here.

As there are plenty of servers and players still. Also, EA is still working on the game by adding new content almost monthly. It's also nice to not have to worry about getting booted from a server for certain map changes when you don't have the exact map unlocked.

Plus the fact that he'll get a ton of battlepacks for joining in now.
I bought BF4 with premium($23) about 5 months ago, and I had well over 50 xp boosts ready to go, and a crap load of unlocks already, making starting out, even more of a blast.

$16 is almost a steal. I think per DLC included 4 maps. So you're getting like another 16+ maps, and a variety of new modes too, that are still being played with on servers.
 
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Eshelmen said:
It's also nice to not have to worry about getting booted from a server for certain map changes when you don't have the exact map unlocked.
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You never have to worry about getting booted from a server with BF4 if the server has a map in the rotation you don't own you wont be able to join the server.
 
DF-1 said:
thinking about getting back into BF4. i saw the premium membership is $16 at origin. any idea if its the lowest its been?

is anyone even playing BF4 premium anymore?
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Absolutely worth it, lots of content for $16.
 
can't cuss servers always baffle me. Sitting there murdering people and fowl language is prohibited lol
 
Especially after Bad Company 2, now there is so much shit that soldiers are yelling out that is way over the top, and they're complaining about that.
Just remember, you can kill and destroy as much as you like, gut people with the knife, bring skyscrapers down, but you have to be polite while doing it and you're not gonna get in trouble :D
 
What did they improve with the patches that makes BF4 good now? I played the crap out of BF3 but never really spent much time with BF4 for some reason.
 
AMD_Gamer said:
What did they improve with the patches that makes BF4 good now? I played the crap out of BF3 but never really spent much time with BF4 for some reason.
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They changed just about everything this spring and have been adding content since. I was the same way as you, I got bf4 gifted to me and spent all my time on bf3 and hated 4. After the so called spring patch this year bf4 is now better than bf3. Now with the high tick rate servers its better than ever! I highly recommend giving it another shot. Way more attachments and weapons to grind away for.
 
Nick_Leo said:
They changed just about everything this spring and have been adding content since. I was the same way as you, I got bf4 gifted to me and spent all my time on bf3 and hated 4. After the so called spring patch this year bf4 is now better than bf3. Now with the high tick rate servers its better than ever! I highly recommend giving it another shot. Way more attachments and weapons to grind away for.
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What is this deal with tick rate on servers?
 
AMD_Gamer said:
What is this deal with tick rate on servers?
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The tickrate on bf3 and bf4 is usually 30hz which means the game communicates with the server 30 times a second. With 60hz it gets 60 requests per second so theres no more being killed while behind cover and stuff like that. Pretty much fixes the hit boxes and makes your shots more accurate because the servers getting the data faster.
 
Flogger23m said:
Why don't all servers run 60? I still see plenty at 30 or 40.
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Because it takes an insane amount of server power especially at 64 players. So you need to pay for more cpu power thus bringing the cost of rental up. I was reading that before a single server could host 4 30hz 64 player games, and that same server can only run 1 60hz instance of the game.
 
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Because it takes an insane amount of server power especially at 64 players. So you need to pay for more cpu power thus bringing the cost of rental up. I was reading that before a single server could host 4 30hz 64 player games, and that same server can only run 1 60hz instance of the game.
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Isnt it nice to have this update, yet most servers out there are only 30/40 and will prob never change due to $$$.
Hell it seems lot of hosts dont supply it yet to their customers :)
 
Anyone know of any good high tick (60+) servers in the PNW or anywhere on the west coast? I live in Vancouver BC and when I filter for high tick servers (any game mode) I am not seeing very many that are populated outside of a couple TDM and one rush. Was hoping to find a large conquest server with an active community, objective play, Teamspeak etc.

On a related note, are there any servers with greater than 60 tick rate?
 
filter for 48 man and check out section 8. They have a 48 man 60hz server w premium maps and admins. Can't cuss. Very good competition there.

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4...60HZ-TICKRATE/

Chicago server btw. High ping kick at 160. Most UK players are ok as are West Coasters.

It is a pro style server. Especially on the weekends when the adults all play. Some of the best fights I have been in a pub. Consistently a good round. So the tradeoff is to not type fuck you asshat every time you get whomped. Big deal. It is what it is. Just keep it civil and let ur guns do the talking.
 
grambo said:
Anyone know of any good high tick (60+) servers in the PNW or anywhere on the west coast? I live in Vancouver BC and when I filter for high tick servers (any game mode) I am not seeing very many that are populated outside of a couple TDM and one rush. Was hoping to find a large conquest server with an active community, objective play, Teamspeak etc
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the last time i played BF4 was a few weeks ago but at that point there were only a handful of 60+ tickrate servers that showed up on my list. I'm also in the PNW.

grambo said:
On a related note, are there any servers with greater than 60 tick rate?
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last i played i found one 120hz server and one 144hz server.
 
Wildace said:
can't cuss servers always baffle me. Sitting there murdering people and fowl language is prohibited lol
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What's extra funny is that there will be a no cursing rule - but then the in game character will yell out "I'm getting fucked up the ass over here".

Really?

Back in the day I'd see a few "Christian gaming servers" where if you even hinted or joked about anything they'd boot you. No cursing, no other shit talking. It's like.. okay Christian server... where everyone is murdering everyone and still feeling "holy" - yeah that about sums up my expectations of the bible beaters.

Probably the same group of people that demand the internet be a "safe space" for everyone. The world is turning into one giant pussy.
 
My favorite is getting kicked from a server for typing "WTF" as though implied cursing in a game, which already curses is bad ("Christian" server).
 
Winter Patch is live! With it comes the Legacy Operations DLC...aka re-made BF2 map Dragon Valley free for everyone. For those who don't know, they also took part of the Dragon Valley map and redid the TDM only portion of the BF3 map Noshahr Canals.

Patch Notes Here.

You must download the Winter Patch first by telling Origin to update BF4. The patch is about 685MB (without the DLC).

Still can't seem to find the DLC in the Origin Store per the instructions, but then again EA is pretty slow to update the store.
 
Just played it great fun map is a little big couldn't find a map with more players only had 6
 
CaptNumbNutz said:
Winter Patch is live! With it comes the Legacy Operations DLC...aka re-made BF2 map Dragon Valley free for everyone. For those who don't know, they also took part of the Dragon Valley map and redid the TDM only portion of the BF3 map Noshahr Canals.

Patch Notes Here.

You must download the Winter Patch first by telling Origin to update BF4. The patch is about 685MB (without the DLC).

Still can't seem to find the DLC in the Origin Store per the instructions, but then again EA is pretty slow to update the store.
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thanks for the heads up!
 
I gave DICE major props for being loyal to their followers. But i do have a small gripe. Their map packs are released too late. by the time their newer maps are released, and maybe im talking about the xb1, most people have moved on to other games. This goes across all battlefield games, even hardline. So now when i want to experience these new maps, theyre practically empty. Or the masses are only playing the base maps still. Example bf4 and hardline, the servers with the base maps only are full and the new expansion maps are practically empty.
They need to release the maps sooner, or for a lower price point. or maybe this is the normm for battlefield games, even bf3.
 
Charlie Hustle said:
I gave DICE major props for being loyal to their followers. But i do have a small gripe. Their map packs are released too late. by the time their newer maps are released, and maybe im talking about the xb1, most people have moved on to other games. This goes across all battlefield games, even hardline. So now when i want to experience these new maps, theyre practically empty. Or the masses are only playing the base maps still. Example bf4 and hardline, the servers with the base maps only are full and the new expansion maps are practically empty.
They need to release the maps sooner, or for a lower price point. or maybe this is the normm for battlefield games, even bf3.
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I would say that has less to do with timeframe and more about the community fracturing nature of DLC itself.
The BF4 dlc release dates were:
China Rising- December 2013 (2 months after BF4 release)
Second Assault- February 2014 (XB1 actually got it early in November 2013)
Naval Strike- March/April 2014 (technical delays)
Dragon's Teeth- July 2014
Final Stand- November 2014

All these were the original planned paid for DLC. Everything we have gotten since has been free and is not on a timetable. We take it as it comes since the game is near EOL anyways (new BF in 2016). They are simply giving us free shit now for loyal fans and as an apology for the major fuckup release of BF4.


Also, you mentioned XB1. The console community isn't sticking with this game as much as the PC crowd is. Console gets all sorts of other FPS and 3rd person shooters and there is new games all the time. The console crowd has their own preferences towards smaller shooters and PC tends towards the larger ones. For example: BF4 and Planetside 2 are more popular on PC and COD and Halo small scale games are more popular on console (not to mention releases are yearly with COD).
 
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Dang, BF4 premium is over 70 gigs now with this winter patch/dragon valley map.

Crazy.
 
Eshelmen said:
Dang, BF4 premium is over 70 gigs now with this winter patch/dragon valley map.

Crazy.
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And you almost have to have BF4 installed to an SSD due to how slow the massive files load.:eek:

SSD's are getting dirt cheap now. I'm thinking of picking up a 2nd one just to install my EA/Origin games on. With my measly 240GB I only have a few apps and 3 games installed right now: BF4, Wolfenstein, and Batman and the drive is nearly full.

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I just checked, we have gotten 33 maps total for BF4...3 more now than BF3, and 2 more than BF2. Only game that had more was BF1942 with 36.
 
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Patch is shit. They gave in to the idiots who wanted 1 infantryman to be able to be equal to 1 MBT/IFV and nerfed them again.

- HMGs are useless. Less power than a pistol, short range.

- Vehicles get stuck on everything.

- Random vehicle jumping, typically when hitting infantry. I think this is intentional.

- Active protection doesn't work against RPGs. Another win for the n00bs.

- Active protection lasts about 1 second.

- Time to switch weapons in AFV takes obscenely long. The pause is often 3-4 seconds and it overlaps. You may get stuck in a period in which you can't shoot for 7-10 seconds because you switched back and fourth too quick.

- Vehicles slide. Its like Mario Kart banana peels, minus the banana peel. And you're sitting still.

- People slide. Good luck aiming when you're slipping all over the place.

- AFV cannons damage reduced against infantry. Now you'll need a good 5-7 direct hits. You're better off using a TOW or AP main gun round than your cannon or HMG. Some great balance work.

- Shitty remake map from one of the most over rated games in history, BF2. Map is cluttered and funneled. Vehicles get stuck on everything and you spend more time trying to get yourself free from the unnecessary sliding/jumping nerfs. This results in long travel distances with very little actual combat areas.

- More lag than ever. Thankfully we now have a lag flashing thing that blows the right side of your screen. Because cutting off our visibility is just what we need to deal with artificial lag enhancers.


At this point they should remove the map and roll back the game version. They should try again with a real map and not a shitty BF2 and add no new "bug fixes". And EA should strongly consider letting DICE/DICE LA go. They can contract out to far better studios. Without EA DICE will die within a few years which would be a wonderful thing.
 
Flogger23m said:
Patch is shit. They gave in to the idiots who wanted 1 infantryman to be able to be equal to 1 MBT/IFV and nerfed them again.

- HMGs are useless. Less power than a pistol, short range.

- Vehicles get stuck on everything.

- Random vehicle jumping, typically when hitting infantry. I think this is intentional.

- Active protection doesn't work against RPGs. Another win for the n00bs.

- Active protection lasts about 1 second.

- Time to switch weapons in AFV takes obscenely long. The pause is often 3-4 seconds and it overlaps. You may get stuck in a period in which you can't shoot for 7-10 seconds because you switched back and fourth too quick.

- Vehicles slide. Its like Mario Kart banana peels, minus the banana peel. And you're sitting still.

- People slide. Good luck aiming when you're slipping all over the place.

- AFV cannons damage reduced against infantry. Now you'll need a good 5-7 direct hits. You're better off using a TOW or AP main gun round than your cannon or HMG. Some great balance work.

- Shitty remake map from one of the most over rated games in history, BF2. Map is cluttered and funneled. Vehicles get stuck on everything and you spend more time trying to get yourself free from the unnecessary sliding/jumping nerfs. This results in long travel distances with very little actual combat areas.

- More lag than ever. Thankfully we now have a lag flashing thing that blows the right side of your screen. Because cutting off our visibility is just what we need to deal with artificial lag enhancers.


At this point they should remove the map and roll back the game version. They should try again with a real map and not a shitty BF2 and add no new "bug fixes". And EA should strongly consider letting DICE/DICE LA go. They can contract out to far better studios. Without EA DICE will die within a few years which would be a wonderful thing.
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trolling??

DICE LA has been widely considered a huge success with their turn around of BF4 since they took over. Most of your complaints seem to stem from lag issues as well.
 
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