Predator X34 Owner's Club & Discussion.

officer921 said:
Exactly what I'm thinking of doing. I'm about to start reading up on the Dell and seeing how it is for gaming. I'm sure I can deal with it if I can get the $650 price point. I LOVE the 34" form factor.
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I'm sure the Dell will be fine if you are ok buying a monitor from a company that makes $200 laptops for Walmart :D:p

I think I will stick with my X34 for the extra refresh rate, faster response time, and Gsync functionality. Ultimately that is the difference between these two monitors. If that isn't worth the price difference to you, then get the Dell or LG.
 
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Erasmus354 said:
I'm sure the Dell will be fine if you are ok buying a monitor from a company that makes $200 laptops for Walmart :D:p

I think I will stick with my X34 for the extra refresh rate, faster response time, and Gsync functionality. Ultimately that is the difference between these two monitors. If that isn't worth the price difference to you, then get the Dell or LG.
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I was totally confused by your post until I realized that we're all assuming different monitors when just 'Dell' is mentioned. ;) I'm looking at the 27" S2716DG, which has Gsync and is quite a bit faster than the X34, but obviously gives up the ultra-wide form factor. According to Dell's flyer, it'll be $650 on Black Friday.

I'd rather buy the X34, as immersiveness is also important to me, and that's where the standard form factor falls flat. You can't even pre-order it anymore, however.
 
From the overclock forums:
"So the official word from ACER is that if you experience ANY difficulties over 60Hz, its not their problem because the monitor is only capable of "up to" 100Hz and is only guaranteed to work flawlessly to 60Hz.. They are "fixing" the WFS issue but that's IT because it happens even when at 60Hz or below and that will take 2 weeks or more depending on your location.

They are also deleting angry posts as well on the acer forum effectively erasing any tracks. I've taken a full 48 page photobucket album if this goes to class action. They have banned me for even mentioning class action."
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I will be setting up a refund with Newegg on Saturday. Acer has made no attempt to acknowledge that they will resolve the Scanline issue. Not sure how they plan on continuing to sell a defective monitor and people to be happy with it.
 
striker444 said:
From the overclock forums:


I will be setting up a refund with Newegg on Saturday. Acer has made no attempt to acknowledge that they will resolve the Scanline issue. Not sure how they plan on continuing to sell a defective monitor and people to be happy with it.
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Wow fuck Acer, seriously. I'm very glad I didn't get the chance to snag one of these while they were available. It looks like at this point I will have to wait and see how the Asus model turns out.
 
Savoy said:
Wow fuck Acer, seriously. I'm very glad I didn't get the chance to snag one of these while they were available. It looks like at this point I will have to wait and see how the Asus model turns out.
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You have to take all of that with a grain of salt. It is really just another angry arm chair kiddie. Someone exaggerating out of anger. Acer isn't censoring any criticism, look at their forums there is plenty of it. They were merely editing out things that didn't fit the code of conduct on the forum. As for the 100Hz "up to", I have said this from the beginning but nobody wanted to believe me. They instead have been blatantly misinterpreting the TFT Central remark about warranty coverage. However the fact that any problem you have when running at >100 Hz won't be covered is also another exaggeration from an angry kiddie. Acer hasn't said anything like that, they merely made one post saying:

Acer said:
All,
I’ve confirmed that the X34 is designed to support overclocking up to 100hz. However, overclocking may result in instability. It is recommended that you reduce refresh rate through the on-screen display settings if you encounter any instability with your monitor.

Cory
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That is it, a simple helpful suggestion that some problems might be caused by the overclock. No mention at all about no coverage for anything if you are running above 100Hz. People are blowing this waaay out of proportion lol.
 
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That may be true but I will say, again, if I had paid 1300 bucks for this screen and had NOT been able to get a reliable and true 24/7 100HZ from it I would have returned it no question about it. I t does not matter to me one bit what they said about overclocking. The only true appeal to this screen is the potential for 100HZ gaming on a continual basis. Otherwise there are other cheaper options. Acer knows this as well.
 
Savoy said:
Wow fuck Acer, seriously. I'm very glad I didn't get the chance to snag one of these while they were available. It looks like at this point I will have to wait and see how the Asus model turns out.
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Lol Bro....listen Acer's Tier #1 support is horrible, just like every other display manufacture's tier 1 support.... All you gotta do is ask to speak to a United States Tier 2 rep and you will be good to go.

Now Sony's support OMG.....Sony's support is the Great SATAN! All I can say is AVOID anything SONY ever!


Savoy said:
That may be true but I will say, again, if I had paid 1300 bucks for this screen and had NOT been able to get a reliable and true 24/7 100HZ from it I would have returned it no question about it. I t does not matter to me one bit what they said about overclocking. The only true appeal to this screen is the potential for 100HZ gaming on a continual basis. Otherwise there are other cheaper options. Acer knows this as well.
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The fine print should read 99.9% 100hz overclock possible if you have a Titan X......
 
Its pretty simple, if you get a defective X34 send it back or RMA it. Mine has the random wake from sleep issue and the faint horizontal band at the top of the screen, but its not the end of the world. I enjoy the display far to much to return or RMA it at this point in time.....somewhere within the 1 year mark I will send it in for repair / replacement, but until then I will continue to enjoy it.

I just dealt with Acer Tier 2 support yesterday on the RMA for my defective XB270HU and they have been great, so I am not overly concerned about RMAing my X34 when its time.

That dell 75hz ultra-wide freesync is a fine display......but to put it in the same category with the X34 is borderline trolling.

I am not an Acer Shill, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express!
 
Pretty sure that Dell will result in skipped frames when overclocked beyond 60hz.

It's obvious the X34 was rushed to market to be first. Whether this plays to Asus' advantage remains to be seen. The PG348Q being pushed back to January is most likely due to the exact same issues the X34 is encountering.
 
We finally have a review site that didn't get a cherry picked monitor!

The review site HardwareCanucks just posted this in the Acer forums

Someone at Acer is going to have to acknowledge the terrible G-Sync scan line issue,

We have a unit here that's fresh out of the box, and has NEVER been overclocked. With G-sync enabled, at 60Hz, we're seeing faint scan lines that go away once G-sync is disabled. These lines are more prominent on the left side of the screen

The result of these scan lines is an image that's far from perfect. At $2000 CAD, this monitor should not have image quality problems of this nature.

Someone at Acer MUST address this issue. We look forward to hearing from you, and we thank you for your time.
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Vittra said:
I received a confirmation from one of the staff at HWC that they are not affiliated with the user "Hardwarecanucks" that posted on Acer. It looks like the user subsequently posted to mention there's no affiliation and to apologize for the confusion.

http://community.acer.com/t5/Predator-Discussions/MULTIPLE-Problems-with-New-X34/m-p/396102#M1913
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I thought it was odd that I didn't see a review for the X34 on their website. So was someone trying to impersonate them in order to make Acer look bad and feel like they had to address their demands?
 
Got mine a few days ago, a little backlight bleed but nothing serious, it hits the 100 Hz OC just fine and didn't notice the scan lines or flickering yet.

An issue I noticed when using a dual monitor setup with my new Acer X34 (G-sync) monitor with my older Samsung S27A850D as a second monitor. They work fine out of the box, but when overclocking the Acer to 100 Hz, I get bad stuttering even when just dragging windows on the second monitor without other programs running.

This did not occur in the past when I was using 2 S27A850D monitors. I wonder if this is due to the PLS tech in the Samsung monitor. Has anyone else had this issue when using it with a second monitor?

I recorded a quick video to illustrate : https://youtu.be/pd-p44Wi_K8

Specs :

Acer x34 - Displayport
S27A850D - DVI-D
Windows 10
Nvidia 38.91 drivers
ASUS GTX 970 OC Turbo GPU
Skylake 6600k.
 
Altoholic said:
Got mine a few days ago, a little backlight bleed but nothing serious, it hits the 100 Hz OC just fine and didn't notice the scan lines or flickering yet.

An issue I noticed when using a dual monitor setup with my new Acer X34 (G-sync) monitor with my older Samsung S27A850D as a second monitor. They work fine out of the box, but when overclocking the Acer to 100 Hz, I get bad stuttering even when just dragging windows on the second monitor without other programs running.

This did not occur in the past when I was using 2 S27A850D monitors. I wonder if this is due to the PLS tech in the Samsung monitor. Has anyone else had this issue when using it with a second monitor?

I recorded a quick video to illustrate : https://youtu.be/pd-p44Wi_K8

Specs :

Acer x34 - Displayport
S27A850D - DVI-D
Windows 10
Nvidia 38.91 drivers
ASUS GTX 970 OC Turbo GPU
Skylake 6600k.
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That's an nvidia driver issue. I had that problem on my 970s when I ran surround + accessory display. Try watching a YouTube video on 1 monitor while playing a game on the other and see how that works out for you
 
Acer mades some pertty decent PCs back in the late 90s held together with tape.
True story.....

Yeah I'm waiting on the ASUS myself I won't get one unless Linus goes Nuts...
 
Damn, I was witing for thing monitor for awhile, I guess I'll hold off for the Asus coming releasing soon
 
Tgrove said:
That's an nvidia driver issue. I had that problem on my 970s when I ran surround + accessory display. Try watching a YouTube video on 1 monitor while playing a game on the other and see how that works out for you
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I can do that just fine, it just feel's wrong to have that much stutter when moving windows around. If it's a nvidia driver issue, have you seen the problem "go away" with certain drivers?
 
Altoholic said:
Got mine a few days ago, a little backlight bleed but nothing serious, it hits the 100 Hz OC just fine and didn't notice the scan lines or flickering yet.

An issue I noticed when using a dual monitor setup with my new Acer X34 (G-sync) monitor with my older Samsung S27A850D as a second monitor. They work fine out of the box, but when overclocking the Acer to 100 Hz, I get bad stuttering even when just dragging windows on the second monitor without other programs running.

This did not occur in the past when I was using 2 S27A850D monitors. I wonder if this is due to the PLS tech in the Samsung monitor. Has anyone else had this issue when using it with a second monitor?

I recorded a quick video to illustrate : https://youtu.be/pd-p44Wi_K8

Specs :

Acer x34 - Displayport
S27A850D - DVI-D
Windows 10
Nvidia 38.91 drivers
ASUS GTX 970 OC Turbo GPU
Skylake 6600k.
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I know I am quoting myself. But I figured the problem out. Turns out it was caused by shadowplay. I run shadowplay in desktop recording mode, for WoW which I play in fullscreen borderless. Running shadowplay in fullscreen only mode eliminates the problem, as does turning it off. I guess running shadowplay with 2 monitors at different refresh rates does wierd things. I can see the shadowplay indicator on both screens but it only records my primary monitor.
 
So any theories as to why the wake from sleep bug doesn't manifest when you turn brightness to the dimmest level using nvidia control panel?
 
Hosted a LANparty with 9 folks on Saturday, I can call it my X34's last hurrah. I got all 9 gamers opinions of my situation. Their first impression was the monitor is amazing, the size itself gave the immediate response of WOW!

After having 4 of my more seasoned PC building friends game for about 5-10 min each they did notice the scanlines, in both GTA V and Rocket League (both games I spend the most time on too). Framerates on GTA were 85-100 FPS, Rocket League a solid 100FPS. I didn't say anything to them about the issues I have with this it at first, wanted to see if I was exaggerating it. The first two who tested it didn't know what the scanline issue was and just said, the image looks distorted, is there some kind of interference going on? After that the cat was out of the bag, I showed them how it looks with G-Sync off and on,

After this was all done, all 9 people watching the screen, I asked them if I should keep the monitor, 7 out of the 9 said yes.

I then told them the price, 5 out of the 9 said yes.

I then hooked up my $300 Monoprice IPS 1440p monitor side by side with it. They saw how much cleaner the picture was, it's a dramatic difference. One of them actually hooked both up to their PC to see if it was a color profile issue / drivers on my desktop (I had the color profiles loaded from TFT), it looked the same. Another noticeable thing from several of them (including myself) were the colors pop a lot more with my Monoprice monitor, it's much more vibrant. Had another friend reset the monitor to default, fiddle with it for a little bit, I showed him TFT's recommended settings, he tried his own and theirs, no love. Maybe someone can explain to my why this is so, I get it's a different IPS panel but this isn't something like scanlines causing it right? The monitor simply looks bland compared to it, no matter what settings I set it to. I know the Monoprice has a higher gloss AG coat on it, do you think this could be the reason? Some of the monitor review sites for my Monoprice were not very favorable either compared to other IPS screens. TFT even said that the X34 is just about professional grade.

After all this tinkering and testing, I again asked if I should keep the monitor, only 1 out of the 9 said yes. So there you have it, 1 out of 9 gamers would take this defective monitor over a cheap IPS one. I've now spent a day back on my old monitor, I did immediately notice the lack of smoothness in gaming, after all going 100hz G-Sync to 60hz no G-Sync is very noticeable. Dropped the monitor off to UPS this morning to go back to Newegg for a full refund. I'm now wondering if Acer fixes all the issues with this monitor if it's even worth going back to it since I will be losing a good amount of color vibrancy (if the scanlines weren't the cause for it). I may just have to wait for a different monitor with similar specs come to the market with a better panel.
 
Regarding colours - this is a common misconception and it actually occurs very often on these forums from what I have seen. When colours are actually represented accurately, they can in fact look bland to the eye - especially compared to another screen that has inaccurate, saturated colours.

When a certain colour is saturated, it can in fact be described as "vivid", "popping", or "vibrant". This is great for visual appeal, aesthetics, and even gaming, but as you can imagine, not a good trait if you require colour-accurate reproduction for work.

Oversaturation is actually a marketing tactic used by retailers who sell monitors and tvs in brick and mortar stores.

In all likelihood, the X34 you possessed was probably the better of the two in terms of accurate color reproduction with/without calibration. Whether you actually find that pleasing (or necessary) is more subjective.
 
Vittra said:
Regarding colours - this is a common misconception and it actually occurs very often on these forums from what I have seen. When colours are actually represented accurately, they can in fact look bland to the eye - especially compared to another screen that has inaccurate, saturated colours.

When a certain colour is saturated, it can in fact be described as "vivid", "popping", or "vibrant". This is great for visual appeal, aesthetics, and even gaming, but as you can imagine, not a good trait if you require colour-accurate reproduction for work.

Oversaturation is actually a marketing tactic used by retailers who sell monitors and tvs in brick and mortar stores.

In all likelihood, the X34 you possessed was probably the better of the two in terms of accurate color reproduction with/without calibration. Whether you actually find that pleasing (or necessary) is more subjective.
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Vittra, that makes perfect sense. Thank you for the input!
 
Altoholic said:
I know I am quoting myself. But I figured the problem out. Turns out it was caused by shadowplay. I run shadowplay in desktop recording mode, for WoW which I play in fullscreen borderless. Running shadowplay in fullscreen only mode eliminates the problem, as does turning it off. I guess running shadowplay with 2 monitors at different refresh rates does wierd things. I can see the shadowplay indicator on both screens but it only records my primary monitor.
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On nvidia gpu(s)s, try turning gpu scaling on the secondary monitor(s), just not on the primary monitor. This usually eliminates judder/stutter between two different refresh rate monitors in a monitor array.
 
Really enjoying mine. A bit of bleed on the top left, but pretty good color accuracy even out of the box and running flawlessly at 100hz

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Anyone else having problems with Battlefront? Tried lowering res and refresh no help. Run into a few games that just don't want to work with this monitor. One of the main reasons I ditched 4K TV and go back to a real PC monitor was to avoid these problems but I guess if its not a typical 16:9 vanilla screen game developers can't bothered.
 
Haven't had problems with any games yet including Wolfenstein Old Blood/New Order, BF 4, GTA V, Crysis 1 & 3, Diablo 3, Homeworld Remastered, Borderlands 2 and MGS GZ. The only games which don't natively support 21:9 are Diablo 3 and MGS GZ.
 
Daleon said:
Anyone else having problems with Battlefront? Tried lowering res and refresh no help. Run into a few games that just don't want to work with this monitor. One of the main reasons I ditched 4K TV and go back to a real PC monitor was to avoid these problems but I guess if its not a typical 16:9 vanilla screen game developers can't bothered.
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Can you explain your issues? I'm not on this screen, but am using a 1440 ultrawide, and am not having any issues with Battlefront at all... so just checking to see if I can help.
 
jackstar7 said:
Can you explain your issues? I'm not on this screen, but am using a 1440 ultrawide, and am not having any issues with Battlefront at all... so just checking to see if I can help.
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Video resolution the game is launching in is incompatible so get black screen or at menu sometimes a quick flash of the white stormtrooper screen. It seems to launch in windowed mode. Can't find any config files to adjust the game settings. The nvidia game optimization thing won't work either. Same issues with BF4. D3 and World of Warx games work fine.
 
Does it happen if you launch at 60Hz? Or only when OC'd? What have you already tried so I don't waste time giving you dumb ideas...?
 
Hmm. I notice mine shows 59.9 Hz in the game menu. Along with lower options.

I am also on Win10... very strange.
 
Battlefront runs at the proper resolution at 100 Hz on usning Windows 10 my X34. Looks great. Are you guys using the newest nvidia driver?
 
Yeah installed latest driver today. Guess I can try and clean uninstall and reinstall. Tried with and without SLI enabled.
 
I haven't tried Battlefront but I will say that Bethesda really shit the bed on Fallout 4 when it comes to 21:9. I would recommend the widescreengamingforum if you want to look up issues specific to certain games and 21:9 compatibility.
 
Found the issue. Stupid TeamViewer sticks a little resizing menu on the top right of all windows that was messing it up. Runs beautifully now with just one 980 and everything Ultra.
 
Daleon said:
Found the issue. Stupid TeamViewer sticks a little resizing menu on the top right of all windows that was messing it up. Runs beautifully now with just one 980 and everything Ultra.
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Random software glitches are a pain in the ass. Glad you found it and solved it!
 
Cory from Acer responded to the forums with this just now:
I can mention that all X34 products sold into the Europe and Americas regions have been reworked to remedy the backlight not turning on from sleep concern. So for those of you who are waiting for us to offer the X34 again, your wait should be over already or will be over in short order.
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Some things I noticed here. So people are paying over $1200 and "has some light bleed" yet are happy. I have 4 monitors in my house not ONE has ..some light bleed. One is Asus 144 NO LIGHT bleed.

Stand up for your self.. its YOUR money.. expect something for the price your paying... for me $250 got some light bleed..ok but $1200? GSYNC or not its over priced.

If you been around Acer USE to be a great name for monitors.. they went down hill. Seems they are slowly maybe coming back...man just dont take what ever they give ya.
 
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