Best 4K gaming monitor?

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Hello. I want to get a new monitor to compliment my fw-900 Sony to use with Sli 980ti. I run a 5.2ghz sandy bridge under water. Not sure what the best choice is to ensure full data at 60hz or ips tn ect. Recommendations on size for anyone gaming on 4K would also be appreciated. I've heard 28 or 32 really gives an excellent crisp image. Also thoughts on g sync. Thanks.
 
Depends what you want the side monitor for... Since you already have a good CRT for fast-paced games and most things, I would recommend getting a good IPS LCD for slower-paced games. IMO, 24" is enough; 28 is excessive. GSINK is a gimmic, offers nothing.

The Dell P2415Q is a good unit. 24 inches, 3840x2160, IPS, 8-bit+FRC color, 1000:1 contrast, 60Hz SST. Its only issue is that it has a matte coat, but that can be removed with a few hours of work.
 
I was really just looking for a nice 4K monitor to enjoy some Hi-Rez slow-paced gaming
 
I would just like to point out that on my iPhone when I type G sync as one word it AutoCorrect's it to gay club try it out it's ridiculous
 
the fact that someone mentioned G-Sync (and FreeSync) is a gimmick, shows that s/he does not know how LCD's work in real life, and the fact that its benefits lie beyond what it says on paper.

If I were to get a 4k monitor now, I would go large. 24" is too small, unless you also plan to use it as a 1080p monitor, in which case that would serve well, but the text on that monitor at 4k would be very small.
 
chenw said:
the fact that someone mentioned G-Sync (and FreeSync) is a gimmick, shows that s/he does not know how LCD's work in real life, and the fact that its benefits lie beyond what it says on paper.
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No. You might like it, but it is not worth the money. Yep, it removes tears, which usually are not even visible. Everyone that has a different opinion isn't "not knowing how LCD's work in real life". And bigger screens are not better. Resolution should not effect your choice of size. Scale the UI. It works perfectly in Windows
 
rabidz7 said:
No. You might like it, but it is not worth the money. Yep, it removes tears, which usually are not even visible. Everyone that has a different opinion isn't "not knowing how LCD's work in real life". And bigger screens are not better. Resolution should not effect your choice of size. Scale the UI. It works perfectly in Windows
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G-Sync is amazing. I hate tearing and the input lag that v-sync introduces. The most responsive monitor I have ever used was the Swift PG278q, with gsync on and vsync off all of my games felt like NES responsive on a crt!

Dont underestimate how much better nor tearing and the lowest input lag possible can provide for gaming!

Have you tried gsync??
 
In most instances, tearing is VERY visible, at least to me, and it distracts me equally as much as V-Sync's stutter, both of which G-Sync now eliminates.

The main benefit of G-Sync I have found is between 45~60fps region, anything less than steady locked 60fps will exhibit stutter when V-Sync is enabled, which G-Sync also eliminates.

However, the fact you can't see tearing means all the more power to you. Screen tearing stands out to me like a sore thumb, and I find it very distracting.
 
oldmanbal said:
I was really just looking for a nice 4K monitor to enjoy some Hi-Rez slow-paced gaming
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Dell ips 27/32 in. Igot the 27 in and its nice. It wS 500. Get the 32 if money is no object. 27 if ur cheap like me. I wish a 4k ulmb screen existed but oh well
 
BL3201PH is also a choice, but again, it's a little pricey, but NCX seem to think very highly of it.
 
chenw said:
the fact that someone mentioned G-Sync (and FreeSync) is a gimmick, shows that s/he does not know how LCD's work in real life, and the fact that its benefits lie beyond what it says on paper.

If I were to get a 4k monitor now, I would go large. 24" is too small, unless you also plan to use it as a 1080p monitor, in which case that would serve well, but the text on that monitor at 4k would be very small.
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A 4K OLED non-adaptive sync display will look smoother in motion than a 60Hz Gsync display though.
 
dragonageinquisition said:
A 4K OLED non-adaptive sync display will look smoother in motion than a 60Hz Gsync display though.
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Along as that OLED use sample and hold, it won't, which is the origin of motion blur on LCD screens

The other thing is that for fixed refresh monitors, assuming you have V-Sync on (I would to eliminate image tearing), a sub 60fps (eg 55fps) would be a mix of 60/30 (assuming frame time does not exceed 33.33ms), which is very jumpy. G-Sync would at least allow a certain range of fps displayed at that actual fps (EG a locked 55 fps would be displayed as actual 55 fps, not a mix of 60 and 30).
 
chenw said:
Along as that OLED use sample and hold, it won't, which is the origin of motion blur on LCD screens

The other thing is that for fixed refresh monitors, assuming you have V-Sync on (I would to eliminate image tearing), a sub 60fps (eg 55fps) would be a mix of 60/30 (assuming frame time does not exceed 33.33ms), which is very jumpy. G-Sync would at least allow a certain range of fps displayed at that actual fps (EG a locked 55 fps would be displayed as actual 55 fps, not a mix of 60 and 30).
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In triple buffered situations that's not true though, anything above 45fps in that scenario would look significantly smoother than 30fps.
 
coolhandm3 said:
G-Sync is amazing. I hate tearing and the input lag that v-sync introduces. The most responsive monitor I have ever used was the Swift PG278q, with gsync on and vsync off all of my games felt like NES responsive on a crt!

Dont underestimate how much better nor tearing and the lowest input lag possible can provide for gaming!

Have you tried gsync??
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Tried GSINK. Was not interested. Don't want input lag? Don't use V-Sync.
 
rabidz7 said:
Tried GSINK. Was not interested. Don't want input lag? Don't use V-Sync.
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But then you get horrible frame tearing. Try putting games like SFV or any other game that is locked at 60hz and the tearing is horrific!!
 
chenw said:
BL3201PH is also a choice, but again, it's a little pricey, but NCX seem to think very highly of it.
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it is a great panel! Especially when you remove the AR filter like I did. If it had G-Sync it would be the best 4k option out there.

As it stands the best 4k you can get is the new Swift Asus pg27aq with gsync and ips.
 
coolhandm3 said:
But then you get horrible frame tearing. Try putting games like SFV or any other game that is locked at 60hz and the tearing is horrific!!
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This thread really isn't a GSINK debate. We have different opinions about tearing. Additionally, if you run the game at a higher frame rate (even above the refresh rate of the monitor), the tears get smaller and less visible the higher you go.
I feel that this discussion is pointless and bordering on derailing this thread.
 
rabidz7 said:
No. You might like it, but it is not worth the money. Yep, it removes tears, which usually are not even visible. Everyone that has a different opinion isn't "not knowing how LCD's work in real life". And bigger screens are not better. Resolution should not effect your choice of size. Scale the UI. It works perfectly in Windows
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I got rid of my 28" 4K monitor because scaling in windows is shit, and it's not even supported by some applications.

edit: don't confuse "not even visible" with "I don't see them"
 
rabidz7 said:
This thread really isn't a GSINK debate. We have different opinions about tearing. Additionally, if you run the game at a higher frame rate (even above the refresh rate of the monitor), the tears get smaller and less visible the higher you go.
I feel that this discussion is pointless and bordering on derailing this thread.
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If the fps is much higher than the refresh rate you just get multiple tears instead of one. Your way is not the only way. I can live with a bit of input lag if it gets rid of tearing.
 
rabidz7 said:
Tried GSINK. Was not interested. Don't want input lag? Don't use V-Sync.
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It's definitely not a gimmick. I've tried G-Sync and FreeSync and my gameplay is so much smoother. It works especially well when you go under 60FPS and I cannot recommend it enough.
 
batmanwcm said:
It's definitely not a gimmick. I've tried G-Sync and FreeSync and my gameplay is so much smoother. It works especially well when you go under 60FPS and I cannot recommend it enough.
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You shouldn't be playing under 60, ever, Even 60 is damn low. At least run 80Hz, 100 preferred.
 
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