Fallout 4

I'm debating buying and playing this now, or getting it on a steam sale in 2016 for like $20-30.

Well, I am between jobs right now...
 
I caved and risked buying the season pass as well. 20% off made it easier to swallow and I'll just hope they make it worth it. Hell I blow just as much every week getting coffee on my way to work.

Pretty much my last game buy for the year until the next Deus Ex comes out so I'm ok with that.
 
That might be pushing it, if i were you i and had a ps4 or xb1 id just get it on that instead of that pc.

That would be a waste. At least with an upgraded GPU I would gain rendering speed when I make home videos. Adobe Premier uses the GPU for processing.

Ill get the game, try it out on my 670mx, maybe OC it a bit. If it runs it runs, if not ill upgrade the GPU.
 
Damn third world internet.

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any word on the official unlock time?

From their system requirements announcement a while ago:

Digitally the game will become available at 12:01am (local time) in all territories (in North America, the unlock time will be 12:01am EST), except Asia (available at 12am on Tuesday, November 11) and Japan (available at 12am on Thursday, December 17).
 
From their system requirements announcement a while ago:

Digitally the game will become available at 12:01am (local time) in all territories (in North America, the unlock time will be 12:01am EST), except Asia (available at 12am on Tuesday, November 11) and Japan (available at 12am on Thursday, December 17).

cool...lately Steam has been unlocking games on release day at 1:00 PM (EST)...good to see them unlock at midnight for this...I won't be getting my copy from Amazon until Tuesday evening...I guess any bugs and performance issues will come to light by then
 
cool...lately Steam has been unlocking games on release day at 1:00 PM (EST)...good to see them unlock at midnight for this

I think it is the developer's call and not Steam's so you can probably give the credit to Bethesda and not Gabe
 
If Fallout 4 is being unlocked at 12:01am EST then that means people on the West Coast will be able to play at 9:01pm. w00t! Gonna be a good four hours of play before I go to bed. Otherwise, I'll be limited to only 1 hour which would suck.
 
So has there been any info from leakers yet on the affect of intel on xp gain?
 
why's it so important to plan out your build beforehand?...I never had any issues with any of the previous Fallout games just jumping in and choosing my perks etc on the spot...

In FO3/NV there was a level cap (changed depending on DLC). Perks also had various minimum level, skill, and SPECIAL levels. There was way more perks available than what could be learned. Raising special was also more limited as "special training" (increase 1 stat by 1) had a limit of 5 levels, there were two other perks that raised SPECIAL to a set level (5 and 9).

This meant that you actually had to plan from the start on what to build exactly unless you wanted to use the mods or console to reset your build.

Deciding whether or not start with 5 or 6 perception in FO3/NV could have been critical in terms of getting the end build you want. In FO4 it's just 1 level.
 
In FO3/NV there was a level cap (changed depending on DLC). Perks also had various minimum level, skill, and SPECIAL levels. There was way more perks available than what could be learned. Raising special was also more limited as "special training" (increase 1 stat by 1) had a limit of 5 levels, there were two other perks that raised SPECIAL to a set level (5 and 9).

This meant that you actually had to plan from the start on what to build exactly unless you wanted to use the mods or console to reset your build.

Deciding whether or not start with 5 or 6 perception in FO3/NV could have been critical in terms of getting the end build you want. In FO4 it's just 1 level.

Eh? I didn't know people meta gamed a single player RPG so hard. I never thought Fallout 3/NV were really that hard to get a decent build going. It's not like Morrowind/Oblivion/Skyrim where certain skills are really critical to level correctly.
 
Eh? I didn't know people meta gamed a single player RPG so hard. I never thought Fallout 3/NV were really that hard to get a decent build going. It's not like Morrowind/Oblivion/Skyrim where certain skills are really critical to level correctly.

Different strokes for different folks? Some people really enjoy the planning of character building, some don't. For the latter it's fine, games have been moving towards "pick up and play." People would use mods that took out the stat planing for Morrowind/Oblivion (due to how you leveled). Reset mods also have always been popular. But some people love to plan even though it isn't necessarily it is part of the fun for them.

From an actual necessity stand point, I already mentioned this a few days and pages ago and this seems liek a repeat discussion :p, it isn't really necessary for this game due to the change in design. If it really comes down to it you have mods (even on the console now, so there will be "reset" mods) but you also have the dev console on the PC.

Aside from that though it isn't necessarily necessity that drives these builds (let's face it the game is not going to be hard) but min/maxing is part of the fun for some.
 
Never really understood the point of DLC for games like this. It's going to take so long to release, it's not like you're still going to be playing the game then. Would not want to have to reload 23 gigabytes for another 4 hours of play... If it was multiplayer it would be a different situation...
 
just leave it installed if downloading is an issue?

and i doubt any of the major dlc is only 4 hours of content on a bethesda game. unless you intentionally blitz through it and ignore everything else.

Also it gives incentive to play the game again.
 
Never really understood the point of DLC for games like this. It's going to take so long to release, it's not like you're still going to be playing the game then. Would not want to have to reload 23 gigabytes for another 4 hours of play... If it was multiplayer it would be a different situation...

Maybe because people that aren't you have different tastes and different opinions. I put over 100 hours into Fallout 3 between playing the base game and picking up all of the DLC as it released. I was still playing the game when the first DLC came out.

Still deciding on whether to get for PC or PS4. Damn RPGs.

Always PC for Bethesda games. If only for the mods that will fix a lot of bugs Bethesda doesn't.
 
Old World Blues was my favorite Bethesda dlc, It took me 14 hrs to complete and I bought it for $10. It was almost like playing a whole new game.
 
Old World Blues was my favorite Bethesda dlc, It took me 14 hrs to complete and I bought it for $10. It was almost like playing a whole new game.

It was the best one in my opinion out of FO3/NV DLC but I haven't played Lonesome Road yet.

Although for me it was somewhat problematic cause I went into very low level while running Project Nevada. The scorpions were challenging :p

NV had better DLC than FO3 to me but the problem, as it pertains to this topic, is that NV wasn't actually developed by Bethesda.
 
Would take me about a day to download this, so I'm glad for the 3 days pre-load. That way I wouldn't have to leave my PC running overnight just to download it.

I'm still pissed off at having the main story ruined, but I hope the other side quests are as interesting.
 
Picked up 2 24 packs of monster and a bunch of food, I have Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday Saturday off woooooo! insomnia here I come.:D
 
Ehh the game isn't going anywhere, you might as well get restful sleeps so you can enjoy the game properly... Rather than as a caffeine-fueled zombie gamer.
 
Ehh the game isn't going anywhere, you might as well get restful sleeps so you can enjoy the game properly... Rather than as a caffeine-fueled zombie gamer.

Exactly ... I view these massive open world games as the fine wine of computer gaming ... you need to sip, not gulp ... I will likely spend hundreds of hours over many months playing this game ... definitely no rush
 
Exactly ... I view these massive open world games as the fine wine of computer gaming ... you need to sip, not gulp ... I will likely spend hundreds of hours over many months playing this game ... definitely no rush

I pack a beer bong for these games. I can sleep when I'm dead.
 
Being on medication in my 40s I found all I can tolerate is carbonated water from my soda stream machine without the soda. everything else wrecks my sleepy time or makes me fat in the mid section.
The best part of soda anyway is the Burn doing down not the taste. Sometimes I'll taint the stuff....
 
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