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klank said:
I did some basic iPerf 3 testing:

Client/Server Specs
Desktop1 (SSD, Gigabit Ethernet)
Desktop2 (SSD, Gigabit Ethernet)
Macbook Pro Mid-2009 (SSD, 802.11n)
Surface Pro 3 (SSD, 802.11ac)
Samsung Galaxy Note 5 (802.11ac)


Unifi-AC-Pro 5Ghz WPA2-AES Channel Width HT40 Transmit
Desktop 1 <--> Desktop 2 = 939Mbits/sec
Desktop 1 <--> Note 5 = 168Mbits/sec
Desktop 1 <--> MBP = 128Mbits/sec
Desktop 1 <--> SurPro3 = 123Mbits/sec


Unifi-AC-Pro 5Ghz WPA2-AES Channel Width HT80 Transmit
Desktop 1 <--> Desktop 2 = 942Mbits/sec
Desktop 1 <--> Note 5 = 242Mbits/sec
Desktop 1 <--> MBP = 188Mbits/sec
Desktop 1 <--> SurPro3 = 190Mbits/sec

So far pretty weak. I will need to turn them off and fire up a Nighthawk, AC-Lite, Cisco 1252 and compare tomorrow.
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You tested absolute shit devices as far as AC is concerned...... seriously a Cellphone???

A Surface Pro 3 has a shit wifi with problems documented thousands of times.

and a Mac Book Pro is not a network performance machine. They spent all the money in the damn LCD.

Want to test them right then you need to bridge two AC-APs together and run an iperf from one server to another server through the wireless bridge. That is going to testify to their true speed.

Also using a notably high performance card that can actually handle 2x2 or 3x3 MIMO is going to net much much higher results i.e. http://www.asus.com/us/Networking/PCEAC68/

This was not a test to give any credit to the devices.

My AP-AC last generation is much much faster than those numbers.... so well.... I guess until you test a much higher performing device the numbers are what they are....
 
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That said, ppl have been complaining about their 11ac stuff even though forum members are raving about it here...
Given that it's Broadcom (first gen?) I'll pass ;-)
 
tangoseal said:
You tested absolute shit devices as far as AC is concerned...... seriously a Cellphone???

A Surface Pro 3 has a shit wifi with problems documented thousands of times.

and a Mac Book Pro is not a network performance machine. They spent all the money in the damn LCD.

Want to test them right then you need to bridge two AC-APs together and run an iperf from one server to another server through the wireless bridge. That is going to testify to their true speed.

Also using a notably high performance card that can actually handle 2x2 or 3x3 MIMO is going to net much much higher results i.e. http://www.asus.com/us/Networking/PCEAC68/

This was not a test to give any credit to the devices.

My AP-AC last generation is much much faster than those numbers.... so well.... I guess until you test a much higher performing device the numbers are what they are....
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:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Well there's no point to do any more testing. Idiots like you are just going to crucify the data and complain that I'm not using the latest and greatest devices.

Thanks for making this a great community by encouraging users to contribute.
 
klank said:
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Well there's no point to do any more testing. Idiots like you are just going to crucify the data and complain that I'm not using the latest and greatest devices.

Thanks for making this a great community by encouraging users to contribute.
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Using everyday devices to show typical speeds seems useful to me.

What are some alternatives to these AP's in this price range?
 
travanx said:
Using everyday devices to show typical speeds seems useful to me.

What are some alternatives to these AP's in this price range?
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I agree. It's good info.

Not everyone has big honkin [H]ard servers to apeshit on something.
 
ARSTechnica did a review where they got much better throughput results than klank.

One thing they noticed is that performance is significantly degraded with certain features on (like guest portal).

Overall, though, a positive review.
 
Zangmonkey said:
ARSTechnica did a review where they got much better throughput results than klank.

One thing they noticed is that performance is significantly degraded with certain features on (like guest portal).

Overall, though, a positive review.
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I think having to alter the 5 GHz band to 80MHz just to get the Pro to almost perform as well as a 2013 Airport Extreme is pretty telling of how these are configured out of the box. SOHO use is going to require some tweaking and even then you probably aren't going to get any better performance then you would out of a higher end consumer wireless router.

Seems silly to have a guest portal that tanks performance, would have been better to add a third radio to support it and the timed access features.
 
ND40oz said:
I think having to alter the 5 GHz band to 80MHz just to get the Pro to almost perform as well as a 2013 Airport Extreme is pretty telling of how these are configured out of the box. SOHO use is going to require some tweaking and even then you probably aren't going to get any better performance then you would out of a higher end consumer wireless router.

Seems silly to have a guest portal that tanks performance, would have been better to add a third radio to support it and the timed access features.
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Sort of like turning QOS on, on the edgerouter and traffic analysis doesn't work. I like this router enough to want to get their access points, but Ubiquiti seems to have a bunch of gotchas that sound like they never get worked on.

Is the airport extreme the best access point to get under $200? Looking for something that works and I don't have to continually fiddle with. The edgerouter does the routing part really well.
 
travanx said:
Is the airport extreme the best access point to get under $200? Looking for something that works and I don't have to continually fiddle with. The edgerouter does the routing part really well.
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The Airport Extreme is due for an update, not worth the price at this point unless you want good Time Machine support out of the box.

I have both the Asus RT-AC68U and the Netgear R7000 and like the R7000 much better, great coverage compared to the Asus's so so coverage. I also have an Edge Router Lite that sits in the box, need to get another block of statics before I start messing with it again. I'm waiting for the Netgear R8500 to get a price cut before I upgrade again.
 
ND40oz said:
The Airport Extreme is due for an update, not worth the price at this point unless you want good Time Machine support out of the box.

I have both the Asus RT-AC68U and the Netgear R7000 and like the R7000 much better, great coverage compared to the Asus's so so coverage. I also have an Edge Router Lite that sits in the box, need to get another block of statics before I start messing with it again. I'm waiting for the Netgear R8500 to get a price cut before I upgrade again.
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I have no reason to get an Apple device unless they really are the best for the price. I don't see any reason to not have the ERL hooked up. I even had the IPv6 tunnel setup pretty easily through Charter.

I have Netgear WNDR3700 v1 and v2 running gargoyle firmware for my access points. I never want to go back to running 3rd party firmware on any networking device ever again.
 
travanx said:
I don't see any reason to not have the ERL hooked up. I even had the IPv6 tunnel setup pretty easily through Charter.
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Mainly because it's a pita to configure and I only have a single static IP at my new home office because they forgot the block of 5 on the order. No time to mess with it until I have some other statics to work on it with, I should have just bought the USG and waited for the firmware to catch up instead of buying the ERL.
 
klank said:
I did some basic iPerf 3 testing:

Client/Server Specs
Desktop1 (SSD, Gigabit Ethernet)
Desktop2 (SSD, Gigabit Ethernet)
Macbook Pro Mid-2009 (SSD, 802.11n)
Surface Pro 3 (SSD, 802.11ac)
Samsung Galaxy Note 5 (802.11ac)


Unifi-AC-Pro 5Ghz WPA2-AES Channel Width HT40 Transmit
Desktop 1 <--> Desktop 2 = 939Mbits/sec
Desktop 1 <--> Note 5 = 168Mbits/sec
Desktop 1 <--> MBP = 128Mbits/sec
Desktop 1 <--> SurPro3 = 123Mbits/sec


Unifi-AC-Pro 5Ghz WPA2-AES Channel Width HT80 Transmit
Desktop 1 <--> Desktop 2 = 942Mbits/sec
Desktop 1 <--> Note 5 = 242Mbits/sec
Desktop 1 <--> MBP = 188Mbits/sec
Desktop 1 <--> SurPro3 = 190Mbits/sec

So far pretty weak. I will need to turn them off and fire up a Nighthawk, AC-Lite, Cisco 1252 and compare tomorrow.
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So is desktop 1 to desktop 2 just a test to show that your first pc is capable of going at full gigabit? Or is that with desktop 2 plugged into the second gigabit nic on the AP?

I'd say your numbers are what I would expect minus the SP3. But as others have stated I do know that wifi was pretty flaky when I played with one so I also wouldn't put too much faith into it's performance.

The one thing I'm surprised is your MBP getting another 60mbits because I don't believe you can use HT80 on N devices. So even though it's still running 2x2 HT40 maybe it was picking up SG in that configuration and getting maximum bandwidth.

Was iperf using TCP or UDP for it's tests? I see anand got ~330mbps out of the note 5, but that was with udp and probably no encryption, so it's not a real world scenario. I'd love to see regular old file tests with a drag + drop of a couple large files onto a share. It would also be cool to see a test with all 3 running iperf at the same time. That would show if the AP is good at bandwidth sharing or if one client can take over and prevent the others from working.

I'm curious what you are upgrading from. For me I only have a 2x2 2.4ghz N AP, so even though the numbers might not be blowing down the doors you're getting at least 2x of what I can get with my current setup. It's certainly a worthy upgrade for me and if you can use 2 SSIDs on separate VLANs without using the guest portal (Since it appears it might hurt performance) that would be slick. Mine is supposed to do it and sort of does, but tends to crash if there isn't an active client on each SSID.
 
my three UAP AC Pro's just showed up today rather unexpectedly. Wasn't expecting them until much later this year. Seems supply is improving. Ill get some perf data this weekend.
 
vikingboy said:
my three UAP AC Pro's just showed up today rather unexpectedly. Wasn't expecting them until much later this year. Seems supply is improving. Ill get some perf data this weekend.
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Where did you order from?
 
If anyone runs across a lite thats for sale please post here if you dont mind.
 
FWIW I have their previous version LR model for a place out in the boonies, and it throws wifi to places no shitty overpriced consumer router ever will. The cameras on that LAN pretty much never go offline unless the power gets knocked out for too long. It is also PoE so I could put it at the ideal spot, not tethered to a damn wall wart.

Dumb speed tests at 10 feet isn't the only metric worth considering, I will definitely be getting a pro if I do a similar setup somewhere else.
 
Aluminum said:
FWIW I have their previous version LR model for a place out in the boonies, and it throws wifi to places no shitty overpriced consumer router ever will. The cameras on that LAN pretty much never go offline unless the power gets knocked out for too long. It is also PoE so I could put it at the ideal spot, not tethered to a damn wall wart.

Dumb speed tests at 10 feet isn't the only metric worth considering, I will definitely be getting a pro if I do a similar setup somewhere else.
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That's why I love Ubiquiti/Unifi stuff. Its not the raw speed, its the reliability, range, management, etc.

I never have to touch clients Unifi APs, other APs would always randomly have small issues every now and then or not work as well with a lot of devices attached.
 
Ended up getting a UAP while waiting for the new units to come out. Works well and probably all I need for the wireless things connecting. The only stock setting I changed was the channel as auto supposedly doesn't pick the best channel on startup. So simple to set this up as a basic AP.

Range is good in a small lathe and plaster house. Much better than what the Netgear WNDR3700 could do.
 
BigTy said:
If anyone runs across a lite thats for sale please post here if you dont mind.
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I keep seeing the uap-ac-Lite version on Amazon (fulfilled by Prime) but the sellers are price gouging at ~$130. I've considered it but can't justify as the uap-ac-Pro is $150 MSRP.
 
Ehren8879 said:
Not knocking your decision, but I would have held out for wireless ac
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I still want a second AP. My routers turned AP's got so bad the phones were having issues with connections. Still just about maxes out my broadband connection.

My PC's are the only things I really want AC for and I ended up just running CAT6 to them.

And that's why I thought the 2.4ghz AP was all I needed for now.
 
travanx said:
I have no reason to get an Apple device unless they really are the best for the price. I don't see any reason to not have the ERL hooked up. I even had the IPv6 tunnel setup pretty easily through Charter.

I have Netgear WNDR3700 v1 and v2 running gargoyle firmware for my access points. I never want to go back to running 3rd party firmware on any networking device ever again.
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The main benefit of using an Apple device is if you have a large home/facility and apple clients. Apple does not follow the standard roaming spec for wifi devices, but they do have their own proprietary function on their own devices.

You'll likely notice bad roaming between AP's on iPhones unless you have a managed handoff (super expensive) system or an apple system (medium expensive)
 
I installed an AC LR a couple days ago. Previous router was a Linksys AC1900. Coverage has be phenomenal. I have a 1400q/ft stick built home. The 5Ghz signal completely covers the entire home, this was surprising. Had been planning on needing to for complete 5Ghz coverage. Obviously 2.4 isn't an issue at all. I give this one an easy buy. I am not a network guy. I can muddle through DD-WRT flashing when needed. This was far simpler than that. Install AP, fire up the controller, set-up it and forget it. I don't have the controller running 24/7, merely used for initial set-up and occasionally changes as I fine tuning the installation.
 
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