What's next after X99 ??

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Any rumors about what's coming to replace X99?


I would like to build an X99 system with a 5960X but if the next chipset is coming soon, I'll wait.
 
Q1 2016 Intel is expected to release Broadwell-E, which will work with X99 and the existing sockets.

Sometime in Q3-2016, Skylake-E is expected, but I haven't seen any rumors about if it'll run on X99 or if X109 (or whatever) will be released to replace X99.

Other than USB 3.1, I'm not sure what features they could really add to X99 to make it much better. We'll still be on DDR4 memory, and still using PCI 3.0 most likely. Maybe dedicating a few more lanes and space for M.2 drives rather than SATA ports.
 
I haven't read any rumors of a newer chipset anytime soon. As Bandalo said, they're supposed to release Broadwell-E next spring on the X99.
 
Bandalo said:
Q1 2016 Intel is expected to release Broadwell-E, which will work with X99 and the existing sockets.

Sometime in Q3-2016, Skylake-E is expected, but I haven't seen any rumors about if it'll run on X99 or if X109 (or whatever) will be released to replace X99.

Other than USB 3.1, I'm not sure what features they could really add to X99 to make it much better. We'll still be on DDR4 memory, and still using PCI 3.0 most likely. Maybe dedicating a few more lanes and space for M.2 drives rather than SATA ports.
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For the new highend setup, we NEED at least 64 PCIe lanes available for x16 slots, plus more lanes for other stuff as well.

We have been stuck at 40 lanes total since x58.
 
Bandalo said:
Other than USB 3.1, I'm not sure what features they could really add to X99 to make it much better.
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Only having 8 PCIe 2.0 lanes from the X99 PCH is pretty weak, considering that the Z170 PCH gives you 20 PCIe 3.0 lanes. Those lanes aren't useful for extra GPUs in SLI/Crossfire in most cases, but they do serve to free up CPU lanes for graphics card purposes. A 5820k for example, has enough lanes (28) to do 8x 8x 8x 3-way SLI, but due to the lack of lanes from the X99 PCH, most motherboards use some CPU lanes for motherboard features and thus only support 2-way SLI with a 5820k. IMO, there should always be enough lanes from the PCH to handle all motherboard features. CPU lanes should be for graphics cards.
 
cyclone3d said:
For the new highend setup, we NEED at least 64 PCIe lanes available for x16 slots, plus more lanes for other stuff as well.

We have been stuck at 40 lanes total since x58.
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This is exactly why I haven't upgraded from my Ivy Bridge (especially when I was using multi-GPU 780 SLI up until a couple months ago)...there just isn't enough incentive to justify the cost, regardless if I went with a mainstream performance or enthusiast platform (Z97 or X99).

Until Intel gives us at least the capability to do x16 + x16 + x16 on their base model enthusiast line CPU, the expenditure is a waste imo (even though I'd likely never do a tri-SLI setup..but the option to do it with all three running at x16 would be nice to at least have).
 
Considering how Intel has pushed everything back I highly doubt we will be seeing X99's successor any time soon (maybe if Zen is insanely good?)
 
Takeda Kenshi said:
Considering how Intel has pushed everything back I highly doubt we will be seeing X99's successor any time soon (maybe if Zen is insanely good?)
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True...and with a plethora of X99 MoBo + 5920K hexacore costing the same as a higher end Z170 MoBo + i7-6700K, Intel doesn't need to do much of anything with the X99 platform except enjoy the extra revenue generated from that higher-margin lineup.
 
cyclone3d said:
For the new highend setup, we NEED at least 64 PCIe lanes available for x16 slots, plus more lanes for other stuff as well.

We have been stuck at 40 lanes total since x58.
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This is one main reason I havent upgraded my X58/Xeon combo but my mobo is lacking m.2 and SATA 6G. And I really dont want to spend money on another X58 mobo when I can use that money towards an X99 or whatever is next.
 
I generally don't like this website but also seen this slide other places:

http://cdn.wccftech.com/wp-content/...E7-E5-Skylake-EX-_Purely-Platform_Roadmap.jpg

Basically, Broadwell-E will still use X99 in early 2016, hopefully only bios update required for boards with non-shitty VRM designs. Dear tooth fairy/easter bunny/whatever, please give me an E5 1699 v4 with 22 cores, thanks.


2017 = Purley which will blend the E/EP/EX lines together and probably be staggered with the advanced/high-core-count/many-sockets later along with a crapload of different SKUs in typical intel fashion.

I can't find it at the moment but I thought I saw something that the 'general' purley 2S configuration similar to current E/EP would be 6 * ddr4 channels and 48 pci-e 3.0 from the cpu.

I would imagine the lewisburg PCH will have a better DMI link, upgraded to 3.0 for sure since it mostly uses more efficient encoding and slightly tighter tolerance limits than 2.0.
Of course more than x8 secondary, maybe around the same 20~ish 'flexible' 3.0 lanes skylake 1xx PCH has? For some reason I want to say 24 but again can't find a chart offhand to confirm.
 
And of course I'm an idiot since I missed the 1S workstation thing at the bottom, so the 'prosumer/extreme' will use kaby lake PCH, likely just a minor bump to the current Z170.

Probably still 6 ram channels and 48 lanes off cpu. /wag
 
There's gonna be a new chip out for skylake -e called x911, but they're having issues with the 2 pci-e lanes crashing atm.
 
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