Haswell-E is a oven.

Well since you're dead set on keeping that shitty case then go with a custom water loop and hang a 240mm rad off the back of the case.
 
Seriously get the 450D or a Phanteks Enthoo pro or whatever case you want, but get something better with good air flow.
 
zaniix said:
Seriously get the 450D or a Phanteks Enthoo pro or whatever case you want, but get something better with good air flow.
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I added a second 120mm intake, the case airflow should be good now.
(the fan is in backorder, it will arrive soon)
So the final configuration will be
1x140mm intake (case front)
1x120mm intake (case front directed over the hottest CPU and part of the rad)
2x120mm exhaust (mounted in push pull on the AIO)
1x140mm exhause (on top cover)

It should have a decent airflow now.

The biggest problem is that my case doesn't fit a 240mm or 280mm rad.
 
Maybe this was asked and answered and I missed it.

Are you using your H80i as an intake on the back? If not, try it, all the hot air will exhaust out the top 140mm fan.
 
Phail said:
Maybe this was asked and answered and I missed it.

Are you using your H80i as an intake on the back? If not, try it, all the hot air will exhaust out the top 140mm fan.
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I agree with having the AIO as an intake. I always do this. It's good advice.
 
Phail said:
Maybe this was asked and answered and I missed it.

Are you using your H80i as an intake on the back? If not, try it, all the hot air will exhaust out the top 140mm fan.
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This is a good suggestion.
At the moment the aio act like an exhaust. If I set it like an intake the CPU will be colder but what about the rest of the system ?

Two open air gtx980 ti and an aio as an intake. Add the fact that the hole where is mounted the rad is not dust filtered.
 
I have an H80i on my 5960. My temp hovers around 51c most of the time, sometimes spiking to 60c.
 
The Cobra said:
I have an H80i on my 5960. My temp hovers around 51c most of the time, sometimes spiking to 60c.
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it mostly depends on the load that you put on your CPU and on the voltage you give, and on the software you use. :)
what vcore/vccin are you using? and what software you use to get it spike at a max 60c?
 
A custom loop on only the CPU with a *good* single 120mm rad will cool better than any of corsair's options. 75% of the problem with the corsair units is the CPU block and the other 25% is the lack of flow from the pump. I spent under $150 for everything in my loop, and it's 15c cooler than my H80i was.
 
schmuckley said:
Those chips overpower just about any cooling solution.
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I have a 5960x at 60C pulling nearly 300 watts. Doesn't overpower custom loops. ;)

I'd still have that AIO as an intake. He has enough other fans for the 980tis. If it's unfiltered put a filter on it or move it to the front of the case.

I'm kind of amazed a case that size can't do 2x120mm. Mod it?
 
thanks for all the suggestions, I really appreciate it.
still evaluating all suggestions and checking for temperature while trying.

what software should I use to stress for temperatures?
Prime95 or small FTT are unuseful power virus, what software do you use?
 
Prime95 26.6 runs a lot cooler than Asus RealBench,
realbench pushes my temperature a lot.
 
sblantipodi said:
what software should I use to stress for temperatures?
Prime95 or small FTT are unuseful power virus, what software do you use?
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keep using Asus RealBench or heavy gaming with Crysis 3. crysis 3 its the best game actually out there to push CPUs and test system stability.
 
sblantipodi said:
This is a good suggestion.
At the moment the aio act like an exhaust. If I set it like an intake the CPU will be colder but what about the rest of the system ?

Two open air gtx980 ti and an aio as an intake. Add the fact that the hole where is mounted the rad is not dust filtered.
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I have my H100i as an intake in the front of my case, and there are (2) 180mm in the bottom of the case pushing the air up and out of the vent on the top. It only really gets hot if I go for 5.2GHz OC with over 1.65v on the CPU. Even then the case is fine; my room is a sauna until I cut on the A/C.

That setup works so well that I haven't bothered to mount the H100i in the bottom of the case where the 180mm intake case fans are and ditch the stock Corsair fans altogether. That may work even better. (Too lazy to find out.)
 
thank you all. I am trying all the suggestions, putting the fans on rad as intake help me saving 4c but it is a nightmare to clean the case becase there is no way to put a cleanable filter on top of it.

I have ordered two Corsair SP140mm to change my front intake and my top cover fan.
I know that AF series is preferable for air flow but for my case I'm pretty sure that it is better to have the SP series.
With the added SP120 series intake I should be ok.

Are this temperature dangerous?
RealBench after 15 minutes of activity:
realbench.jpg
 
I use an H105 and MX-4 with my 5820K at 4.5GhZ. I play MWO, which is particularly abusive toward the CPU, and I don't see temps above 54c. It's in a Coolar Master HAF 932 mounted at the top with a 140mm fan at the rear and 4x 120mm fans on the side (nothing special, just red LED Cooler Master fans). I'm running at 1.29v for my OC, so it should be pretty comparable for OP. I think that H80i is just a tidbit too tiny.
 
LAiN_OfTheWired said:
I use an H105 and MX-4 with my 5820K at 4.5GhZ. I play MWO, which is particularly abusive toward the CPU, and I don't see temps above 54c. It's in a Coolar Master HAF 932 mounted at the top with a 140mm fan at the rear and 4x 120mm fans on the side (nothing special, just red LED Cooler Master fans). I'm running at 1.29v for my OC, so it should be pretty comparable for OP. I think that H80i is just a tidbit too tiny.
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54c is a really low temp when in full load.
isn't it too few for an H105c? what is your ambient temp?
 
sblantipodi said:
54c is a really low temp when in full load.
isn't it too few for an H105c? what is your ambient temp?
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not really.. the H105 is 240mm*38mm and have amazing cooling capacity for the size you are really over-valuating your H80i.
 
The Haswell-E i7 chips are not the best chips to come off the wafer...those are reserved for Xeons. If you want a cooler running Haswell-E chip that doesn't leak internally like a sieve, pick up an E5-1660V3 or an E5-1680V3.
 
At the end I bought this and changed the default fan with a Corsair SP120

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I added two SP140 fans one for bottom intake and one for the upper exhaust.
With this configuration I get 6 degrees less.

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Sennheiser makes headsets for broadcast and recording studios. Good stuff even on their low end.
 
LAiN_OfTheWired said:
I use an H105 and MX-4 with my 5820K at 4.5GhZ. I play MWO, which is particularly abusive toward the CPU, and I don't see temps above 54c. It's in a Coolar Master HAF 932 mounted at the top with a 140mm fan at the rear and 4x 120mm fans on the side (nothing special, just red LED Cooler Master fans). I'm running at 1.29v for my OC, so it should be pretty comparable for OP. I think that H80i is just a tidbit too tiny.
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Yeah, calling BS on that. Screenshot of prime95 running with real temp and CPUz up.

There's only a 5c difference in cooling between an H80i and a H105.
 
Surface area is king, thickness adds at most 15% improvement. Radiators are rated for up to certain heat loads (watts) and if the critical point isn't met the differences will be negligible, whether if it's a 120mm clc or a 1200mm custom loop. More surface area doesn't decrease temperature but prevents load temperature from increasing as you add more hardware.

99% of heatsink reviews I've read doesn't put enough heat load on the heatsinks so the gap between them is very small. From my experience a 4.5ghz 5930k draws 220~250w fully loaded and that is way beyond what any 120mm radiator is capable of dissipating. The general census from googling around is that a 120mm rad will dissipate 120~150w of heat so a 240mm rad should theoretically dissipate twice that much. Then there are things like flow/fan speed and tons of other things but I think it's safe to say the 240mm variant clcs might cling on very slightly just above the tj max in situations where the 120mm variant would have long failed. Basically that 5c gap with a 85w heat load will probably turn into a 20c gap with a 150w~200w heat load.
 
Agenesis said:
Surface area is king, thickness adds at most 15% improvement. Radiators are rated for up to certain heat loads (watts) and if the critical point isn't met the differences will be negligible, whether if it's a 120mm clc or a 1200mm custom loop. More surface area doesn't decrease temperature but prevents load temperature from increasing as you add more hardware.

99% of heatsink reviews I've read doesn't put enough heat load on the heatsinks so the gap between them is very small. From my experience a 4.5ghz 5930k draws 220~250w fully loaded and that is way beyond what any 120mm radiator is capable of dissipating. The general census from googling around is that a 120mm rad will dissipate 120~150w of heat so a 240mm rad should theoretically dissipate twice that much. Then there are things like flow/fan speed and tons of other things but I think it's safe to say the 240mm variant clcs might cling on very slightly just above the tj max in situations where the 120mm variant would have long failed. Basically that 5c gap with a 85w heat load will probably turn into a 20c gap with a 150w~200w heat load.
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my 5930K at 1.280V now runs at 84c on the hottest core with an average of 80c running realbench that in my case is the most intensive test I can do (apart power virus).
So the H80i GT rocks well in my rig now.
 
I think I concur with many others here - I have a 5960X / Rampage V Extreme / 16GB DDR4 2666 upgrade sitting on the shelf here next to me, ready for my rebuild. When I bought this hardware last year, I picked up the Swiftech H220X as my Corsair Obsidian 800D is not capable of handling 140mm multi-fan rads and I'm to understand that the H-220X is pretty much the best AIO money 120MM money could buy, at least at the time. I hope it will be enough to get a solid OC out of my 5960X.

Casewise, I'm also considering an upgrade. To those discussing "premium" cases and the like, if you're going to spend $250 or certainly more on a high end LianLi, Silverstone, Corsair etc... then it may be worth it to step up to the top-tier premium cases like those from CaseLabs. They are expensive, but especially if you're breaking the $300 barrier, I like that they're practically never outdated, modular upgradable, and get just glowing reviews.

If you're running a Haswell-E chip OCed, especially with 6 or 8 cores enabled, you put out some big bucks and you owe it to yourself to have cooling/case options capable of getting the most from your purchase, at least in my opinion. Those who have been able to make do with customizing something more compact, that's great, but I can imagine its quite an uphill battle!
 
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