Haswell-E is a oven.

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Hi,
this days most people use AIOs as good cooling solutions.

I use a Corsair H80i GT, from the reviews it has really comparable performance with H100i GTX.
My 5930K is at 1.280V with 1.92V but in real bench I get 85c after 15 minutes and it starts throttling.

What AIO could solve this problem?
Is it possible that there is no way to overclock this CPUs at 1.280V without a custom loop?
 
The h100i it's a big upgrade over any h80i when speaking about overclocked haswell-E chips, however a h100i would be the minimum choice, I would go straight with the h110i GTX unit. If you do not have space for 280mm radiator I would check the cooler master glacer 240L or swiftech h220-X..
 
The h100i it's a big upgrade over any h80i when speaking about overclocked haswell-E chips, however a h100i would be the minimum choice, I would go straight with the h110i GTX unit. If you do not have space for 280mm radiator I would check the cooler master glacer 240L or swiftech h220-X..

I don't see much difference between the H80i GT and the H100i GT, reviews says that they differ of 3 or 4 degrees.
My case doesn't support anything more than a 140mm or 120mm radiator.

Am I fucked?
 
4 degrees is a lot when overclocking and and can mean reach or not the throttle point, but if you can't use it, not too much you can do then but only switch to High-end Air cooler like the Cryorig R1 Ultimate or Noctua NH-D15 as you are using Socket 2011 board
 
4 degrees is a lot when overclocking and and can mean reach or not the throttle point, but if you can't use it, not too much you can do then but only switch to High-end Air cooler like the Cryorig R1 Ultimate or Noctua NH-D15 as you are using Socket 2011 board

NH-D15 is not an improvement over my current AIO :(
 
I used a H80 on my 5930K and it would hit 75-80 C while gaming.
Since moving to a H110i GT I get about 50-55 C while gaming but I also switched my case from 650D to a HAF X.

Given your case seems worse than my 650D I can see why you are hitting 85 C.

Suggestion is to get a better case and also a 280 mm rad.
 
I used a H80 on my 5930K and it would hit 75-80 C while gaming.
Since moving to a H110i GT I get about 50-55 C while gaming but I also switched my case from 650D to a HAF X.

Given your case seems worse than my 650D I can see why you are hitting 85 C.

Suggestion is to get a better case and also a 280 mm rad.

this could be an option but is there a decent mid tower case for a 280mm rad without going with enourmouse full tower?
 
this could be an option but is there a decent mid tower case for a 280mm rad without going with enourmouse full tower?

I personally like the corsair C70 and corsair 500R as MID tower with amazing airflow.. they are bigger than most mid towers but far of being a full tower.
 
I would like a full aluminum case.

well that's a hard one.. full aluminum case with great airflow and 280mm radiator support?. only Corsair Obsidian 550D come to my head, possibly the only case able to meet all that requirement most are steel made.
 
well that's a hard one.. full aluminum case with great airflow and 280mm radiator support?. only Corsair Obsidian 550D come to my head, possibly the only case able to meet all that requirement most are steel made.

I forget to add that I want a wide transparent side windows.
 
I don't see much difference between the H80i GT and the H100i GT, reviews says that they differ of 3 or 4 degrees.
My case doesn't support anything more than a 140mm or 120mm radiator.

Am I fucked?

Take this with a smile okay? Welcome to AMD FX overclocking since 2011; home of the Easy Bake oven during the summer inversely paired with nice and toasty toes during the winter. (The year; not the processor) :D :D :D

I stubbornly moved on to a H100i after the H80 I was using died. Best thing I ever did. If I weren't so cheap, I would try out higher end solutions like Araxie suggested. At least once a month I read the Swiftech review and visit their website. Waiting for the H100i to bite the dust first which may take forever.

Sending in the H80 for warranty and using it's replacement to cool my R9 290 with a Corsair Hydro Series HG10 A1.

I'm using Kyle's case recommendation; a Silverstone case where the motherboard is flipped 90 degrees. Think it's the Raven RV03. Something like that.

Silverstone on Amazon.
 
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I don't see much difference between the H80i GT and the H100i GT, reviews says that they differ of 3 or 4 degrees.
My case doesn't support anything more than a 140mm or 120mm radiator.

Am I fucked?

It's likely the reviews you are referring to are comparing them using a mainstream quad core. Six/Eight core HEDT chips bring quite a bit more heat load to the table. I wouldn't want to rely on a 120/140 sized radiator to cool a HW-E.
 
It's likely the reviews you are referring to are comparing them using a mainstream quad core. Six/Eight core HEDT chips bring quite a bit more heat load to the table. I wouldn't want to rely on a 120/140 sized radiator to cool a HW-E.

is not only that, the heat spreader of Socket 2011 chips is larger, so bigger surface help a lot and the difference with the same cooler in a 115X chip vs 2011 chip is massive...
 
no choices then, unless you want to get rid of the full aluminum requirement. can I ask why that requirement?

because it feels much much more premium.
lian li brushed aluminum has no competitor in the "premium feeling" :D
 
It's likely the reviews you are referring to are comparing them using a mainstream quad core. Six/Eight core HEDT chips bring quite a bit more heat load to the table. I wouldn't want to rely on a 120/140 sized radiator to cool a HW-E.

H100i radiator is really slim, H80i is very tick, this is why they have comparable performance.
 
I must admit that most of the problem resides on my GTX980Ti SLI.
when I had blower cards I got 7-8c less on the CPU, now with ACX2.0 I got 7-8c more on the CPU.
 
What bench are you running? There are known benches that will make your cpu run unessarily hot.
 
because it feels much much more premium.
lian li brushed aluminum has no competitor in the "premium feeling" :D

And you just reminded me why I put you on my ignore list. Buying a 140w CPU, overclocking it, and then being told that your case cooling is inadequate, but you must have an aluminum case with a window :rolleyes:

Have fun breaking the laws of physics. Serious overclockers don't use Lian-Li.
 
And you just reminded me why I put you on my ignore list. Buying a 140w CPU, overclocking it, and then being told that your case cooling is inadequate, but you must have an aluminum case with a window :rolleyes:

Have fun breaking the laws of physics. Serious overclockers don't use Lian-Li.

Agreed.

If you want a nice looking case for a stock office computer, go ahead and use Lian-Li. They're nice looking cases.

But if you're overclocking and water cooling, look at something else or stop overclocking.

"Feeling premium" means dick if you're burning your system up.
 
Agreed.

If you want a nice looking case for a stock office computer, go ahead and use Lian-Li. They're nice looking cases.

But if you're overclocking and water cooling, look at something else or stop overclocking.

"Feeling premium" means dick if you're burning your system up.

when I had a lian li, I mounted the rad externally and got pretty decent temps.

and I mean externally.

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Not everyone is comfortable with compromises like this.
 
That's it! Break out the fishtank of Fluorinert!

;)
 
Now I'm going to have to go home and see how hot my 5930k gets on my h80gt
 
Is the 5930K that much hotter than 3930K? I have never had temp issues and I run the H80. Even when burning it in.
 
Your problem is definitely the 7FNWX, the single 140mm intake just kills it's cooling ability. I had one with an AMD 955 BE system that I could never keep cool at 4 Ghz. Switched it to a LIAN LI PC-K65 and it ran all day long for years at 4 Ghz.

When I built my new system in sig, I went a different route.

I got this case,



Then i got this top for it,



It was actually designed for your case but it fits on mine with an H110, it was pretty tight. I had to dremel a small area on one of the fan frames for the 8 pin cpu connector to put it all together.



Good luck finding that top now if you still want to keep the case.

I think I am done with Lian Li cases now. they had their hay day for overclockers but now they seem to be making more and more ITX an Mini ITX cases.

Personally, my next case will be the Phantek Enthoo Pro,



So many options and I really like the idea of being able to tear it almost all the way apart.
 
All I see from the OP in this thread is excuses. You ask for help and suggestions and then argue with every person that offers you advice. If you had any idea what you were doing you wouldn't have come here to ask.

You need a new case. Either take the metal case, there are plenty of good looking cases from companies other than Lian-Li, or enjoy the throttling.
 
I must admit that most of the problem resides on my GTX980Ti SLI.
when I had blower cards I got 7-8c less on the CPU, now with ACX2.0 I got 7-8c more on the CPU.

Well then no wonder your temps are high, you're blowing warm air through the radiator. :rolleyes:

All I see from the OP in this thread is excuses. You ask for help and suggestions and then argue with every person that offers you advice. If you had any idea what you were doing you wouldn't have come here to ask.

You need a new case. Either take the metal case, there are plenty of good looking cases from companies other than Lian-Li, or enjoy the throttling.

+1
 
Your problem is definitely the 7FNWX, the single 140mm intake just kills it's cooling ability. I had one with an AMD 955 BE system that I could never keep cool at 4 Ghz. Switched it to a LIAN LI PC-K65 and it ran all day long for years at 4 Ghz.

When I built my new system in sig, I went a different route.

I got this case,



Then i got this top for it,



It was actually designed for your case but it fits on mine with an H110, it was pretty tight. I had to dremel a small area on one of the fan frames for the 8 pin cpu connector to put it all together.



Good luck finding that top now if you still want to keep the case.

I think I am done with Lian Li cases now. they had their hay day for overclockers but Inow they seem to be making more and more ITX an Mini ITX cases.

Personally, my next case will be the Phantek Enthoo Pro,



So many options and I really like the idea of being able to tear it almost all the way apart.

This is the best suggestion I have read on this thread, thanks.
I think that I will try to find that accessorie

In order to add an intake I bought this:
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I hope that this will help me solving the "intake" problem.
The problem is that the two gtx980 ti produces really a lot of heat and I don't know how to exhaust it without passing the hot air through a radiator.
Also with that optional the two fans will me mounted as exhaust and the hot air will pass through the rad.
 
This is the best suggestion I have read on this thread, thanks.
I think that I will try to find that accessorie

In order to add an intake I bought this:
lian-li-lian-li-bz-502-intake-cooling-kit-black-lian-li-bz-502-intake-cooling-kit-aluminium-front-panel-use-3x-525-with-1x-120mm.jpg


I hope that this will help me solving the "intake" problem.
The problem is that the two gtx980 ti produces really a lot of heat and I don't know how to exhaust it without passing the hot air through a radiator.
Also with that optional the two fans will me mounted as exhaust and the hot air will pass through the rad.

my vote would be leave your current intake fan as it is, your current rear exhaust as it is, and turn that 3 bay intake fan around to make it exhaust, and put your rad on that. it will dump the heat out of the case while the regular rear exhaust fan keeps case temps lower, and it will be higher than the intake so wont mess too much with thermodynamics.
 
my vote would be leave your current intake fan as it is, your current rear exhaust as it is, and turn that 3 bay intake fan around to make it exhaust, and put your rad on that. it will dump the heat out of the case while the regular rear exhaust fan keeps case temps lower, and it will be higher than the intake so wont mess too much with thermodynamics.

I will try both solutions and I will post the results.
I ordered this 3 bay fan but it will arrive in 10 days, keep you posted.

The third option, the safest one, would be to sell my GTX980Ti SLI open air and get two blower cards.
OpenAir cards are a mess for a case like mine.

Thanks.
 
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There were many more suggestions better than mine, all of them telling you to get a different case to be exact.

I know but I would like not change my case.
I am considering the Corsair 450D but still waiting the 3bay fan to see if it will improve something.

At the end I will have 1x140mm intake, 1x120mm intake over the GPUs (3bay), 2x120mm exhaust on the aio, 1x140mm exhaust on the top.
The airflow should not be that worse than a 450d apart the fact that 450d or similar apart the fact that 450d support bigger rad.
 
I am so glad I purchased my 800D when I did. That thing has spots for rads everywhere. I don't think I will ever have to upgrade it.
 
Haswell-E is an oven. If you live in certain parts of the country like I do, where it's going to be close to 100 degrees this weekend (wtf double El-Nino), there's not much you can do about it. :(
 
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