Philips 272G5DYEB monitor, 27", 1080p, g-sync, 144Hz

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Amazon page - http://www.amazon.com/Philips-272G5DYEB-27-Inch-Ultimate-Performance/dp/B00MUTW5LG
Phillips product page 1 - http://www.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/dcbint/cpindex.pl?slg=en&scy=gb&ctn=272G5DYEB/00
Phillips product page 2 - http://www.philips.co.uk/c-p/272G5DYEB_00

I'm guessing same panel as the g-sync Acer on newegg.

From product page:

LCD panel type TFT-LCD (TN)
Backlight type W-LED system
Panel Size 27 inch/68.6 cm
Aspect ratio 16:9
Optimum resolution 1920 x 1080 @ 144 Hz (DP)
Response time (typical) 5 ms
SmartResponse 1 ms (Grey to Grey)*
Brightness 300 cd/m²
Contrast ratio (typical) 1000:1
Pixel pitch 0.311 x 0.311 mm
Viewing angle 170º (H)/160º (V) @ C/R > 10
Display colours 16.7 M
Effective viewing area 597.6 (H) x 336.15 (V) mm
Scanning Frequency 30 - 160 kHz (H) / 30 - 150 Hz (V)
sRGB Yes
 
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Wait a sec, they changed the colored stripe to grey now? It was red before which I guess many weren't that keen on (nvidia & associated fanboys in particular ^^).

If it's the same panel as Acer that is fine, seems quite okay panel really. However what's a big con on the Acer is the lack of adjustability in the menu including for example Overdrive & sharpness (and gamma?) so wonder if Philips offer more here.

EDIT: Both seems somewhat expensive, seems like european pricing is comparably a bit lower.
 
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Does anyone know anything about this monitor? Amazon says it comes out 10/25, but there are no reviews or anything.

I am looking at the Asus Swift, but I am wondering if maybe this Phillips is decent. The reason I ask is because I want to do triple screen 3D Vision Surround, and I am not sure if performance will be good at 1440p vs 1080p. Triple-screen is already intensive, and 3D even more so on top. The fact that you can't even find the Swift anywhere doesn't help matters. Any thoughts?
 
RPGWiZaRD said:
Wait a sec, they changed the colored stripe to grey now? It was red before which I guess many weren't that keen on (nvidia & associated fanboys in particular ^^).

If it's the same panel as Acer that is fine, seems quite okay panel really. However what's a big con on the Acer is the lack of adjustability in the menu including for example Overdrive & sharpness (and gamma?) so wonder if Philips offer more here.

EDIT: Both seems somewhat expensive, seems like european pricing is comparably a bit lower.
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I'll bump this thread since the release is supposed to be released soon (10/25 per Amazon but some news articles say it is coming soon as well).

I looked through the manual on Phillip's website and this does have overdrive adjustability via three SmartResponse settings. It also has ULMB pulse width adjustability like the ROG Swift.

http://download.p4c.philips.com/files/2/272g5dyeb_00/272g5dyeb_00_dfu_eng.pdf - page 6.

The Acer 27" 1080p g-sync monitor has no adjustability in that area, unfortunately, and there are a few reviews out there commenting on how dark the screen is when in ULMB mode.

Hopefully it has the same panel as the Acer does though and not one of the crappier 27" 1080p TN panels from the previous generation.
 
Thanks for the headsup! :) I personally tend to prefer 24" @ 1080p over 27" but you gotta take whichever screen performs best for the money since nearly all LCD monitors have some issues, some lesser than others.

Liking that this screen has even 4 setting OD: off, fast, faster, fastest and gamma: 1.8, 2.0, 2.2, 2.4 and 2.6 besides the ULMB pulse width so at least it already wins Acer here in my book.
 
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They are both $599 over here in the US. I wouldn't think there would be that big of a difference either.
 
I'm curious how games would look with DSR. I've not owned a 27"/1080p display before though, just 24" 1080p and 27" 1440p displays.

It would give you a lot of flexibility to run multiple resolutions, depending on the scenario, and only require one video card (i.e. FPS = 1080p120 straight, Skyrim = DSR 4k60 or D3 or whatever game doesn't need a lot of ass to run).
 
^ Seems like manufacturers can't make up their mind about the pricing of these new GSYNC monitors. I think $599 is pretty extraordinary high for a 1080p TN. Sure they try to milk cash anytime something new is introduced like 4K res, 144Hz, GSYNC, curved display etc. But gsync I'd say is the most extreme in this regard, they come with a $200 premium and seems some manufacturers would prefer just $100 premium since they think $200 is even outrageous for them and are worried how they will convince the market that GSYNC is like the holy grail in gaming or something to be worth that premium. :p

This is probably why the Acer has been switching between 499 and $599 pricetag. It should have been $499 for all the 27" 1080p displays and well BenQ comes with additional features compared to the rest why I guess they could also ask $499 for a 24" one but $599, are they MAD??! The colors better be extraordinary great for TN.

EDIT: HOLY *#"¤#", this Philips one sells for 645€ in Finland at the only place that it's listed at so far...

At this price Nvidia can stick their G-sync somewhere up another famous G spot.
 
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Yeah, I think it's easy to deal with a $100 mark-up for g-sync and ULMB features given the apparent extra work that has been involved, but $200 gets to be steep. Maybe the Phillips will drop in price in the next couple of weeks. The price last week was $599 too =/.

$499 is probably okay for what you are getting with these new monitors (g-sync, ULMB and 3D), and the feedback on the TN panels sounds pretty positive compared to the last generation of 144 Hz TN panels at least.
 
Digital Versus Review

A good G-Sync monitor without a bunch of useless gaming features and a nice, perceived black depth increasing matte grey bezel unlike the BenQ XL series monitors.
 
Always take Digital Versus reviews with a huge grain of salt though :) not saying it's a bad monitor, looks pretty decent really (just like that Acer monitor).
 
The 272G5DYEB is flicker-free, except when Ultra Low Motion Blur (ULMB) mode is activated. So, if you have particularly sensitive eyes, you might want to avoid this feature.
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This is interesting, someone wrote in the Philips BDM4065UC thread that all Philips monitors use PWM, but that seems not to be the case.
 
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This is interesting, someone wrote in the Philips BDM4065UC thread that all Philips monitors use PWM, but that seems not to be the case.
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Fail attempt to bait (source: "Most Philips monitors use PWM," which is true).
 
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kalston said:
Always take Digital Versus reviews with a huge grain of salt though :) not saying it's a bad monitor, looks pretty decent really (just like that Acer monitor).
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Well there are some other much better reviews up on this monitor too. Dunno why NCX linked to that one in particular. :confused:
 
So why can't ULMB be enabled at the same time as G-SYNC. And which one is better for fast paced FPS gaming?
 
Inu said:
So why can't ULMB be enabled at the same time as G-SYNC. And which one is better for fast paced FPS gaming?
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ULMB is different from G-Sync.

It depends of the game actually, but so far im using only G-sync and its unbelivable the feeling of smoothness.
 
Inu said:
So why can't ULMB be enabled at the same time as G-SYNC. And which one is better for fast paced FPS gaming?
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The backlight can only be strobed at a fixed rate, meaning pixel persistence will not be matched to the varying refresh rate causing a number of visual anomalies if used in tandem. Supposedly there is research happening to see if a variable strobe effect can be synced to G-Sync in a practical way, but I highly doubt we'll see it happen.

chiablo said:
Low framerates, use G-Sync.
High framerates, use ULMB.
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It's more like:

Framerate with high variation: use G-Sync
Framerate that can be sustained at the chosen refresh rate: use ULMB

I just use G-Sync capped to refresh rate on my display all the time. I think my display (PG278Q) is too dim with ULMB when the pulse rate is low enough to actually be worth using.
 
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