7 Things I Still Hate About Windows 10

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This guy seems pretty upset with Windows 10. So what do you guys think? Is this guy onto something or just on something?

Have I got used to the things I didn’t like? In some cases, yes. But there are still a number of areas in which Windows 10 falls short of the mark. So here are seven things that piss me off about Windows 10; one for every day of the week!
 
#1 for me is that using Windows 10 also implies consent to let Microsoft spy on everything you do.

Don't get Scroogl... er, Microshafted.
 
Just upgraded to win10 the other day, then wiped and did my clean reinstall last night. I don't really have any complaints other than drivers that aren't mature yet.
 
I have some minor annoyances with using Windows 10, but all of them pale in comparison to the elephant in the room.

Microsoft using Windows 10 as a data mining platform, Microsoft forcing you to have applications you don't want (cortana, Edge, groove, onedrive, microsoft store etc. etc.), Microsoft misleading people into thinking they have to have a Microsoft account in order to use Windows 10 (let's be honest here, if you didn't know that local accounts were an option, you wouldn't know to skip the microsoft account creation step during install) and Microsoft by default sharing your Wifi passswords, and stealing your bandwidth for updates (not to mention how they a stole bandwidth for the Windows10 upgrade rollout)

After that, my remaining concerns are much smaller. Yes, there is a bunch of wasted space, yes the Windows Apps are annoying (but I don't use any anyway).

My biggest annoyance is that I still get random blank screens upon exiting games requiring me to mash win-p to get my multi-monitor extended screen back (or to see anything). It is intermittent, and every annoying when it happens. Also, the random instabilities that weren't there in 8.1 annoy me.

Other than that, I think it's an improvement over 8.1.

If I had my way completely, I would have preferred just Windows 7 with the Win10 kernel improvements and DX12, but you can't always get what you want...
 
#1 for me is that using Windows 10 also implies consent to let Microsoft spy on everything you do.

Don't get Scroogl... er, Microshafted.

Any OS you are using developed by Apple, Google or Microsoft is using some sort of telemetry on you. Any website you visit is spying on you. Any app you use is gathering telemetry data on you. Basically you look rather foolish parroting this. Microsoft isn't doing anything that Android, iOS, OSX, etc... aren't also doing.

I know of several iOS apps that get usage stats -- where you click, what are you doing when it crashes (including what you typed in that caused it to crash), etc... and none of them tell the user they are collecting data, they only have to mention that they are "connecting to the internet" which covers a lot of app features.
 
The biggest complaint I have with windows 10 is the updates. Windows 10 decided to update the Intel graphics driver even though I installed the latest from Intel. The driver they installed wont work right with Firefox for some reason. Any way. To get around it I have to use a crappy utility from Microsoft that says to always ignore this update. Or turn off all hardware updates from Microsoft. Just let me pick and chose the updates in the operating system please!
 
Any OS you are using developed by Apple, Google or Microsoft is using some sort of telemetry on you. Any website you visit is spying on you. Any app you use is gathering telemetry data on you. Basically you look rather foolish parroting this. Microsoft isn't doing anything that Android, iOS, OSX, etc... aren't also doing.

I know of several iOS apps that get usage stats -- where you click, what are you doing when it crashes (including what you typed in that caused it to crash), etc... and none of them tell the user they are collecting data, they only have to mention that they are "connecting to the internet" which covers a lot of app features.

I agree with this completely. The bandwagon for OS based data mining already has lots of companies sitting on it so there's absolutely nothing wrong with Microsoft doing it too. People who complain about it should just get over it and stop doing stuff on their computers with the expectation that what they do or create with them belongs to them or is somehow for their use only. Write a document? It's for everyone to read. Save a photo of yourself? That's not supposed to be private. Send an e-mail? Microsoft/Google/Apple/All Websites Everywhere need to read it too. Screw you for trying to hide your nasty affair photos inside a folder labled "work" because that data belongs to the company gracious enough to furnish the operating system on the computing hardware that you're using.
 
The biggest complaint I have with windows 10 is the updates. Windows 10 decided to update the Intel graphics driver even though I installed the latest from Intel. The driver they installed wont work right with Firefox for some reason. Any way. To get around it I have to use a crappy utility from Microsoft that says to always ignore this update. Or turn off all hardware updates from Microsoft. Just let me pick and chose the updates in the operating system please!

Yeah,

I fully support mandatory security updates, but driver and feature updates should be able to be skipped...
 
I agree with this completely. The bandwagon for OS based data mining already has lots of companies sitting on it so there's absolutely nothing wrong with Microsoft doing it too. People who complain about it should just get over it and stop doing stuff on their computers with the expectation that what they do or create with them belongs to them or is somehow for their use only. Write a document? It's for everyone to read. Save a photo of yourself? That's not supposed to be private. Send an e-mail? Microsoft/Google/Apple/All Websites Everywhere need to read it too. Screw you for trying to hide your nasty affair photos inside a folder labled "work" because that data belongs to the company gracious enough to furnish the operating system on the computing hardware that you're using.

Based on your previous comments on privacy, I know you are being sarcastic, but just to clarify, everyone knows your cellphone platform is - in part - financed through the compromise of your privacy. Up until now, you could at least have a modicum of privacy on your computer. (you still can with open source operating systems...)

I find it to be a rather negative development.

I want my phone to be more like my computer, not my computer to be more like my phone...
 
Any OS you are using developed by Apple, Google or Microsoft is using some sort of telemetry on you. Any website you visit is spying on you. Any app you use is gathering telemetry data on you. Basically you look rather foolish parroting this. Microsoft isn't doing anything that Android, iOS, OSX, etc... aren't also doing.

Except charging $200 for the OS. That said, two wrongs don't make a right. That "Well Apple and Google are doing it" does not mean we "Shut up and just let it happen on PC, too". Fuck that.
 
I agree with this completely. The bandwagon for OS based data mining already has lots of companies sitting on it so there's absolutely nothing wrong with Microsoft doing it too. People who complain about it should just get over it and stop doing stuff on their computers with the expectation that what they do or create with them belongs to them or is somehow for their use only. Write a document? It's for everyone to read. Save a photo of yourself? That's not supposed to be private. Send an e-mail? Microsoft/Google/Apple/All Websites Everywhere need to read it too. Screw you for trying to hide your nasty affair photos inside a folder labled "work" because that data belongs to the company gracious enough to furnish the operating system on the computing hardware that you're using.

I never said it was cool or acceptable. But the bandwagon hating of Microsoft is stupid and shows that anyone stating that is ignorant of reality. You use Siri or Google Now? They are gathering and recording what you say. You use Google Mail? Etc...

I am not a fan of all this data mining stuff. I will say it has helped me fix several bugs in my applications, but it can also be abused.

To make Windows 10 enemy #1 is just stupid. And that is what I am pointing out, I am not agreeing that endless amount of data collection is cool or should be wanted.
 
Except charging $200 for the OS. That said, two wrongs don't make a right. That "Well Apple and Google are doing it" does not mean we "Shut up and just let it happen on PC, too". Fuck that.

I never said it was right. I simply said pointing out that Microsoft does it while using iOS, Android, Facebook, apps, etc... just makes you look like an idiot. Put up or shut up. Actually take a stand and change your computing behaviors instead of just pointing the finger at Microsoft as if they are the only bad guys.
 
#1 for me is that using Windows 10 also implies consent to let Microsoft spy on everything you do.

Don't get Scroogl... er, Microshafted.

Same here. And "Google/Apple is doing it too" is not an excuse. I rid my home of EVERYTHING Microsoft because of this. I am stuck using Windows (7) at work...not my choice, but at home, I am quite happy without MS in my life.
 
I never said it was cool or acceptable. But the bandwagon hating of Microsoft is stupid and shows that anyone stating that is ignorant of reality. You use Siri or Google Now? They are gathering and recording what you say. You use Google Mail? Etc...

I am not a fan of all this data mining stuff. I will say it has helped me fix several bugs in my applications, but it can also be abused.

To make Windows 10 enemy #1 is just stupid. And that is what I am pointing out, I am not agreeing that endless amount of data collection is cool or should be wanted.

*raises hand* Linux user here with lots of script block-y and advertisement block-y stuff. I don't own a cell phone of any sort. I search the web with duckduckgo. I no longer have an e-mail account with Google or Microsoft. (Well okay, I did make up a fake identity for an Android-x86 install on a netbook so maybe that counts..I dunno, but its one of the only ways Google allows you to make an account without providing a phone number now.) I never have used a voice-activated thing ever. *shrug* It does mean becoming kinda isolated from the world, but it's not a bad place to be and I can put what I'd pay in a phone contract into savings for retirement in like 2076 or so when I turn 65.

I don't think people are calling out Microsoft for being any more or less lecherous than Google, Facebook, or Apple has been, but for a long time people were happy with Microsoft for not collecting data. In fact, MS even advertised that kinda thingy for a long time. It's turned stuff totally around in the last couple of years in an effort to monetize people. I think the people that know are kinda rightfully upset about it.
 
I've had 10 since the early Tech Preview builds and haven't had any serious complaints.
The guy is bitching that some things changed. Then continues bitching that other things (explorer) haven't.
The Apps, Action Center, and Tiles are all centered around cross platform consistency. If they don't pertain to my platform, I just ignore them.
Tabbed Explorer browsing? Alt-tab instead? Just let me right click on a network folder (not just a share) to choose to map a drive at that location and I'm happy :D
I would agree with his mention of lack of info about updates, if it weren't for this https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/security/bulletin/dn602597.aspx
One good point is the confused interface inconsistencies. The differences between classic Win7 interfaces (i.e. Network and Sharing Center, Display Settings, etc.) and their Win10 counterparts are glaring. This has been the case in every major Windows release though. Hell, the MMC is still hanging around.
As far as Edge, does anyone use this instead of Chrome, FF, Opera, Safari anyway?
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He's not wrong in one regard. The interfacing wastes an enormous amount of space.

We don't need a 10 foot interface on PC's.
 
I like 10 although I should probably bite the bullet and do a clean install (I just hate reinstalling all the software) ... I get periodic crashes but I think it is mostly due to having an old system with lots of hardware in it and difficulty getting all drivers fully up to date with 10 ... overall I do like it though and am adjusting to the new interface from 7
 
*raises hand* Linux user here with lots of script block-y and advertisement block-y stuff. I don't own a cell phone of any sort. I search the web with duckduckgo. I no longer have an e-mail account with Google or Microsoft. (Well okay, I did make up a fake identity for an Android-x86 install on a netbook so maybe that counts..I dunno, but its one of the only ways Google allows you to make an account without providing a phone number now.) I never have used a voice-activated thing ever. *shrug* It does mean becoming kinda isolated from the world, but it's not a bad place to be and I can put what I'd pay in a phone contract into savings for retirement in like 2076 or so when I turn 65.

I don't think people are calling out Microsoft for being any more or less lecherous than Google, Facebook, or Apple has been, but for a long time people were happy with Microsoft for not collecting data. In fact, MS even advertised that kinda thingy for a long time. It's turned stuff totally around in the last couple of years in an effort to monetize people. I think the people that know are kinda rightfully upset about it.

Awesome. That was a great read and I am happy to hear someone is taking a real stand (not sarcasm).

Sadly it is also a double edged sword. People want Cortana to "know" them. For this to happen it is going to need to gather data about the person. I know not everyone here wants that stuff, but a lot casuals want it because Siri and Google Now do it, so obviously Microsoft had to add it too.

Microsoft does allow users to turn it off. But I think they should add a button that says "turn it all off" -- however the problem with that would be the internet casual reader would "turn it all off" and then bitch and complain about how Cortana doesn't track their packages or flights anymore, etc....

It is a tough spot -- they should make it easier to turn off, but not so easy that it then breaks all the personalization features that people want.
 
I'm still using Windows 7 and even went through the trouble of editing the registry on all my computers to get the stupid Windows 10 upgrade notification to go away and stay away.

As soon as I couldn't tell the notification to shut up and go away through normal means is when I knew Windows 10 was a big trap. The privacy issues that have already come up prove just that. There's a reason why they're pushing this on everyone for "free" and it isn't to reduce their support bill.
 
"Just go away and die already..." is the best line I read in the whole post. After reading the whole post, just apply the aforementioned line to Windows 10. :D
 
I have read the article and from what I saw, he just likes to whine to be heard. So, where is his 7 things he loves about Windows 10 article?
 
Not really Windows 10 or Microsoft's fault but I really hate that my M/B doesn't have driver support yet.
 
if Microsoft had tiptoed around the issue, gradually introduced data collection while easily allowing opting out, allowing people to uninstall software they don't want, and making patch distribution opt in. (opt in, to get windows updates faster...) and hadn't used peoples bandwidth to distribute Windows 10, I think we would have been fine.

It's the fact that they are being rather dictatorial about it, and even where they provide opt-out features, hiding them, and choosing wording in such a way as to make the uninformed think that there is no way to opt out (in some cases), and simply just taking bandwidth without asking, and installing their pre-installed unremovable applications, that is causing this negative response, and it is well deserved.

I mean, just look at the install process. You have to disregard Microsofts STRONGLY WORDED recommendation to create a Microsoft account TWICE before even being given the option to create a local account.

With this release, Microsoft reverted to the bad old days where they essentially said "we know you don't have an option but to use our software, and we don't care. We are going to piss on you, our users now."

Microsoft really deserves a strong rebuke over this release.

I can't help but wonder what European regulators think...
 
He's not wrong in one regard. The interfacing wastes an enormous amount of space.

We don't need a 10 foot interface on PC's.

Are you still using a 1080x1024 monitor? Just saying, it's not that bad, and only when you hit the start button unless you are in tablet mode...
 
Not really Windows 10 or Microsoft's fault but I really hate that my M/B doesn't have driver support yet.

The z77 board in sig?

What about it doesn't have driver support?

Does it have some really unusual optional components on it? I mean, the Z77 chipset is fully supported already.

Usually realtek onboard sound is supported out of the box, and the Nic is an Intel one on that board, and is definitely supported.

What is it that is holding you back? The Asmedia USB3 and SATA controllers? Those really ought to be supported already too...

I'm really surprised it doesn't just work for you.

The motherboard is just made up of a standard Intel chipset, and a lot of mass produced 3rd party on board peripherals (in your case Realtek audio, Intel NIC and Asmedia SATA and USB3), which should already be supported. There should be nothing unique that requires an "Asus" driver on there...
 
Awesome. That was a great read and I am happy to hear someone is taking a real stand (not sarcasm).

It was a long transition (I started messing with Linux stuff a little before Windows 8 went retail since MS was kinda heading this direction even then, but 10 wasn't really good enough to make me want to use it and if I had to learn another UI and OS, it might was well be something that isn't as suspect as Windows is now) and though it wasn't that painful, I really don't recommend people just one day turn off Windows, install Linux on everything and then go forward. Besides that, I'm pretty sure that there's only so much you can do because there's still tracking stuff everywhere so while you can do things to limit your exposure, it's pretty much unbeatable if you're plugged into the Internet.

Sadly it is also a double edged sword. People want Cortana to "know" them. For this to happen it is going to need to gather data about the person. I know not everyone here wants that stuff, but a lot casuals want it because Siri and Google Now do it, so obviously Microsoft had to add it too.

Microsoft does allow users to turn it off. But I think they should add a button that says "turn it all off" -- however the problem with that would be the internet casual reader would "turn it all off" and then bitch and complain about how Cortana doesn't track their packages or flights anymore, etc....

It is a tough spot -- they should make it easier to turn off, but not so easy that it then breaks all the personalization features that people want.

Yeah, I do understand what you're getting at. Microsoft is much more justified in doing it not because everyone else is doing it, but because they had to do so in order to offer capabilities that competing companies were offering in a way that the end user would be able to benefit from. For things like Cortana though, I do wonder how much it's actually gonna be used and if it will be a venture worth the time for Microsoft to implement. Collecting telemetry on it is probably the only way they'll ever know if there's a point in having a Siri/Now competitor is actually a selling point.
 
classicshell make that UI appear the way YOU want it to quickly and easily, hell I am using win 7 and using it on win 7 no problems. Many things about win10 are just dumbass moves by MSFT because others are doing it, because they can, or because they know many 10s of millions of people have no other choice.

Forced updates that many simply will not be able to work around, forced spying, forced bloatware crap, removal of simple things such as a baseline DVD/media player and so forth, they may have helped the kernel being more sleek and better performing but much of the other things have been a "wtf?" move.

They should be concerned about their OS security but they should also be concerned about a users privacy and reduced impact on data resources (as this adds up to a massive carbon footprint let alone massive extra bills for their users via failed updates, rollbacks, start again) They honestly should have left well enough alone, listen to the consumers and companies and try to stand AWAY from the crowd, not do as they do in an even more dastardly way.
 
Jobs warned that a successful company always had to be wary of pod people - "B and C Teamers" - taking root and hiring more of their own kind as they raced toward mediocrity. Surely this has happened at MS after the abortion called Windows 8. Its clear the newe Windows OS now wants to co-own a computer with its users. Instead of the web being an extension of a user, a user is now more an extension of the web and those who want to leverage it at a users expense (phones already blazed that trail.). SO far I haven't seen any compelling advantage tp Windows 10. Maybe DX 12 but I cant even think of a game I want anymore since everything became zombies and dragons
 
#1 for me is that using Windows 10 also implies consent to let Microsoft spy on everything you do.

That's why we're questioning it at work. What is sent, etc.. We are not 100% in control of the data. It's a common trend in enterprise, though, and has been. With cloud storage (Dropbox, Onedrive for Business), BYOD, Even with all the front facing options to turn off that stuff, some stuff is still sent to Microsoft.

On a personal level, fine. On an enterprise? Not so much. Even without Cortana, search, etc... Although, Cortana, search (with Office 365), and others are very valuable for me on my personal computer, I'd love to see it on the desktop. But, most enterprises want more control over the data. If Microsoft would be more open about it, it'd be less of an issue.


Any OS you are using developed by Apple, Google or Microsoft is using some sort of telemetry on you. Any website you visit is spying on you. Any app you use is gathering telemetry data on you. Basically you look rather foolish parroting this. Microsoft isn't doing anything that Android, iOS, OSX, etc... aren't also doing.

Oh cool. So, everyone does it so it's ok. Got it....
 
Why does the media player in Windows 10 have a HUGE grey interface bar on it.
I was like, WTF!!!, that is a lot of interface covering up the media I am watching.
 
You all know you can turn that shit off, right?

You all know when you "turn it off" in the UI its not completely off, right?

Cortana for example. Disable Cortana, reboot, oh look - still in the running processes in Task Manager. But you "turned it off"?
 
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