R9 Nano Review Thread

If they priced it near the mini 970 it'd make a lot more sense I think. As it stands I'd probably just buy a mini 970 if I was looking for a powerful GPU in an SFF case with depth limitations.

I like that a major manufacturer is trying to go smaller, even if it's a card I likely won't personally purchase. Hopefully it spurs more innovation and competition in this niche, as I think smaller and smaller gaming rigs are a trend for PC computing because manufacturers can justify a premium for smaller more efficient hardware.
 
Ati diehards will enjoy the card which is fine as we all want what we want but people that are brand/platform agnostic like myself will look at the price and then wonder what else is available at that range and usually end up with something else.
 
thedocta45 said:
The Nano has been billed by AMD as built for 4k, if its really a HTPC card it would have had HDMI 2.0.

I am not talking about what you have in your house, I could care less if you have a 4K TV it doesn't matter.

At 1080p your going to get much of the same experience out of a 970 as you would out of a Nano.
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You can be dismissive if you want, change the topic even, or pretend everyone at the forum has a 4K TV. It's OK. Ridiculous but a perfectly fine opinion.

Also what 970 is beating the Nano? I think Toms tested with OC'd 970's. I don't see where the 970 is beating it. I honestly haven't seen that so if you have one please post it. Thanks


thedocta45 said:
First none of those cases are all MicroATX and could probably fit any video card.

Second why are you wasting time linking 40 dollar cases with generic 300 and 250W power supplies? The Nano used over 300w as part of a test bench system on the pcper reveiw, so good luck not bricking the system.
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The point that's being made is one of power and thank you for highlighting that there's even larger cases that can't fit a Fury X. :D I picked the first out of the bunch thinking you would completely miss the point. Most are intentionally ignoring and pretending that low power doesn't matter anymore. I could go with a better case with a better PSU out of that list on NewEgg, and a Fury X or 980 would be a no go. Why? Lack of pins. You could always start using converters, but you'll need two molex to do it. You know what other kind of case usually lacks support for two-8 pin connectors? Every basic consumer case Dell has ever made.

The thing about Nano is that if you already think that it has no positives then the product is obviously a no-go for you. It is niche so if you aren't in the market for highest performance within the lowest power envelope then it's not for you.


thedocta45 said:
Third you would have to be some sort of retard to spend 40 bucks on a case with a generic PSU and then spend 700 on a video card and probably 400 on a free sync monitor.
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Wait you actually believe that everyone who wants a better video card is automatically going to replace the case and all? Have you been to Best Buy? You know who buys video cards at Best Buy? People who either can't or won't upgrade their PSU likely because they really haven't started doing full builds themselves. It's really not that hard to see where this product would fit.
 
kac77 said:
You can be dismissive if you want, change the topic even, or pretend everyone at the forum has a 4K TV. It's OK. Ridiculous but a perfectly fine opinion.


Wait you actually believe that everyone who wants a better video card is automatically going to replace the case and all? Have you been to Best Buy? You know who buys video cards at Best Buy? People who either can't or won't upgrade their PSU likely because they really haven't started doing full builds themselves. It's really not that hard to see where this product would fit.
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AMD is marketing it as a 4K card. Even ignoring the fact that it really isn't it's a card meant for the HTPC market. More than likely someone would want to hook it up to their HDTV. It's silly for AMD not to include HDMI 2.0 on the Fury and Fury X but I'd call it a critical mistake for the Nano.

And average Best Buy shoppers are going to buy a $650 card?
 
Derangel said:
AMD is marketing it as a 4K card. Even ignoring the fact that it really isn't it's a card meant for the HTPC market. More than likely someone would want to hook it up to their HDTV. It's silly for AMD not to include HDMI 2.0 on the Fury and Fury X but I'd call it a critical mistake for the Nano.

And average Best Buy shoppers are going to buy a $650 card?
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Oh so 4K only happens on a TV set? Got it. :rolleyes: Having said that you don't see me saying they shouldn't include it. I'm saying it's not the end of the world. I'm sure it's fun as a mental exercise to imagine that everyone went out and bought a 4K TV during Fury's launch but I'm not one of them. Apparently it's an epidemic or a Pavlovian response to purchase a new 4K TV upon a video card release. Its' a good thing I'm not affected otherwise I would be broke.

Like I said, have you been to Best Buy? They sell GT430's at 300.00 and people buy that shit so yes!
 
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Derangel said:
And average Best Buy shoppers are going to buy a $650 card?
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If anyone is going to overpay for a video card is the Best Buy faithful. Nvidia sold boat loads of overpriced FX5200's from guess where.
 
kac77 said:
Oh so 4K only happens on a TV set? Got it. :rolleyes:

Like I said, have you been to Best Buy? They sell GT430's at 300.00 and people buy that shit so yes!
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Clearly you have no intention of even attempting to have an intelligent conversation.
 
illram said:
If they priced it near the mini 970 it'd make a lot more sense I think. As it stands I'd probably just buy a mini 970 if I was looking for a powerful GPU in an SFF case with depth limitations.

I like that a major manufacturer is trying to go smaller, even if it's a card I likely won't personally purchase. Hopefully it spurs more innovation and competition in this niche, as I think smaller and smaller gaming rigs are a trend for PC computing because manufacturers can justify a premium for smaller more efficient hardware.
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I think they consider it to be the Titan X of SFF cards. Titan X is $1,000 and nobody complains about that because it is in a league of it's own. The Fury X may not fit all of the SFF cases because of the water cooler. Thus compared to the GTX 970, the Nano is in a league of it's own going by the numbers that PCPer posted.

At any rate I think that $650 is overpriced. Then again the Titan is $1,000. Maybe we're just conditioned to think of AMD as the cheap alternative when really they're really on the same footing as Nvidia?
 
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If anyone is going to overpay for a video card is the Best Buy faithful. Nvidia sold boat loads of overpriced FX5200's from guess where.
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Heh. That is a good point but I just don't see a $650 card having a market to the average BB shopper. At that price point it's squarely in the enthusiast niche. Though if Best Buy's "helpful" employees are told to push said $650 card....
 
Derangel said:
Clearly you have no intention of even attempting to have an intelligent conversation.
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LOL. Aww that's all you have? Clearly you've got nothing else to say but that's OK I'm sure you'll want to talk to me on your next 4K TV purchase. It's tomorrow isn't it? :)
 
Derangel said:
At that price point it's squarely in the enthusiast niche.
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Exactly. Which is why people need to stop comparing to other cards, because you can't nothing else like it exists. The 970 mini is way, way behind in performance. Nano IS overpriced but so is Fury X, GTX980Ti and a whole bunch of other cards. Titan X however is the best value of all time.
 
This is a failure...

The ONLY way this could have been a success is if AMD managed to make this a low profile card that could fit ultra slim cases. It doesn't so clearly anyone with a brain will buy a 980ti or a fury-x over this.
 
Brent_Justice said:
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/9621/the-amd-radeon-r9-nano-review/3

That case could easily house a Fury X or larger card.
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Then the issue is that the cases used were too large, the target for this card ought to be confined to cases that are so tiny that they cannot fit a standard gpu. If x case can, or y case can, then the case is larger than the idealized target of this card.


I think it would be instructive to go out and find the smallest case possible to house this card with an appropriate mb/ram/cpu internals. Again, if you could just as easily slap a 980 ti in there, the case is bigger than what this targets and the comparison falls flat.
 
§kynet;1041848283 said:
Exactly. Which is why people need to stop comparing to other cards, because you can't nothing else like it exists. The 970 mini is way, way behind in performance. Nano IS overpriced but so is Fury X, GTX980Ti and a whole bunch of other cards. Titan X however is the best value of all time.
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I don't think anyone has really called the high-end cards a good value. Once you get past the 970 and 290/390 nothing is a good value.
 
kac77 said:
You can be dismissive if you want, change the topic even, or pretend everyone at the forum has a 4K TV. It's OK. Ridiculous but a perfectly fine opinion.

Also what 970 is beating the Nano? I think Toms tested with OC'd 970's. I don't see where the 970 is beating it. I honestly haven't seen that so if you have one please post it. Thanks
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I never said it beat it but can you tell the difference between GTA 5 at 93 FPS vs 87 FPS or the Witcher at 58 vs 50? All of the benchmarks show games playable at 1080p at the same settings. So if you happen to have a 1080p TV and you want the lowest power usage you should get the 780 that thing comes in under 300w on a total system.

kac77 said:
The point that's being made is one of power and thank you for highlighting that there's even larger cases that can't fit a Fury X. :D I picked the first out of the bunch thinking you would completely miss the point. Most are intentionally ignoring and pretending that low power doesn't matter anymore. I could go with a better case with a better PSU out of that list on NewEgg, and a Fury X or 980 would be a no go. Why? Lack of pins. You could always start using converters, but you'll need two molex to do it. You know what other kind of case usually lacks support for two-8 pin connectors? Every basic consumer case Dell has ever made.
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What the fuck are you even talking about?
Yes generic power supplies are not going have support for two 8pin connectors.
I have a desktop that has a single 8pin connector, but if Im going to spend 700 bucks on a video card I'm going to upgrade the power supply, not you some Basic PSU on a high performance gaming machine.

Who is the target demographic people who are to stupid to understand the importance of a quality power supply unit in a gaming rig, and people who bought an OEM computer?

kac77 said:
The thing about Nano is that if you already think that it has no positives then the product is obviously a no-go for you. It is niche so if you aren't in the market for highest performance within the lowest power envelope then it's not for you.
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There are positives of this card its small, it uses the least power of any current AMD card, and its very fast for its form factor.

The problem is why would I buy this and not a Fury X?

Its so much a niche product that I would call it a proof of concept.


kac77 said:
Wait you actually believe that everyone who wants a better video card is automatically going to replace the case and all? Have you been to Best Buy? You know who buys video cards at Best Buy? People who either can't or won't upgrade their PSU likely because they really haven't started doing full builds themselves. It's really not that hard to see where this product would fit.
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Great Best Buy, if your a GFX manufacture and your target demographic is Best Buy with your latest and greatest your really out of touch.
 
thedocta45 said:
Its so much a niche product that I would call it a proof of concept.
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Yes, 28nm. cant provide what is neccesary. even with HBM, nvidia would not be abel to create a real High end card with low enough wattage, we who wants it, just have to wait, as we painently have done for years :(
 
ssnyder28 said:
This is a failure...

The ONLY way this could have been a success is if AMD managed to make this a low profile card that could fit ultra slim cases. It doesn't so clearly anyone with a brain will buy a 980ti or a fury-x over this.
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I agree, I dont think anyone bothered to actually see if it fits in those super slim HTPC cases, they are so focused on length.

This card is the best thing to happen to a market that doesn't exist.

You will never see these on sale anywhere, this will be one of those cards found in a box 10 years from that some video blog unboxes as jokes and says remember those days hahahaha
 
tybert7 said:
Then the issue is that the cases used were too large, the target for this card ought to be confined to cases that are so tiny that they cannot fit a standard gpu. If x case can, or y case can, then the case is larger than the idealized target of this card.


I think it would be instructive to go out and find the smallest case possible to house this card with an appropriate mb/ram/cpu internals. Again, if you could just as easily slap a 980 ti in there, the case is bigger than what this targets and the comparison falls flat.
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You hit the nail on the head Tybert7. These cards were designed to go into cases that a normal sized card will not physically fit into. Thus the reasoning behind the card being limited to only 175 watts. It's only competition is the SFF GTX 970, maybe a Fury X if the case has room for a water cooler, and a modified regular Fury where the heatsink has been replaced with a water cooling loop. If this HBM thing pans out as it seems it will, I wouldn't mind seeing a PS5 or XBOX with a Fury inside.
 
Am I missing something?

Slower, lower clocked, hotter, louder (coil whine) than the full sized air cooled version. Sometimes a lot less power consumption, sometimes not. And at the same price basically.

But the review sites that were given a sample still ended up recommending it. Why?

It couldn't have taken that much effort to put a smaller air cooler over the watercooled version and downclock it. Really hard to be impressed, even if there are major pcb differences.
 
Unstableone said:
Am I missing something?

Slower, lower clocked, hotter, louder (coil whine) than the full sized air cooled version. Sometimes a lot less power consumption, sometimes not. And at the same price basically.

But the review sites that were given a sample still ended up recommending it. Why?

It couldn't have taken that much effort to put a smaller air cooler over the watercooled version and downclock it. Really hard to be impressed, even if there are major pcb differences.
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It is designed to go into a case that is too small for the air cooled version. Thus the air cooled one would not be an option unless you replaced the air cooler with a water block. Nobody in their right mind would buy it to go into a case that can fit a regular sized video card. Same goes for the SFF 970.
 
cageymaru said:
It is designed to go into a case that is too small for the air cooled version. Thus the air cooled one would not be an option unless you replaced the air cooler with a water block. Nobody in their right mind would buy it to go into a case that can fit a regular sized video card. Same goes for the SFF 970.
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The problem I have with that argument (which is valid in its own right) is that I can't think of any amazing SFF cases that can't fit a full size 980/989TI.
 
There's several mini-itx cases that you can fit full cards into.
I get the potential appeal of a small card, but not really at 650.

Silverstone ml07 and rvz01 are pretty small cases and people have jammed a gtx980 in.
 
thedocta45 said:
I never said it beat it but can you tell the difference between GTA 5 at 93 FPS vs 87 FPS or the Witcher at 58 vs 50? All of the benchmarks show games playable at 1080p at the same settings. So if you happen to have a 1080p TV and you want the lowest power usage you should get the 780 that thing comes in under 300w on a total system.
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Yep and the Nano beats it. The point. As for the 780 I all ready have it....see
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Why would I buy the same card with the same performance that won't fit in my next build? Apparently you think that's a good idea. i don't. Therefore I don't think you're good at giving good advice since you want me to buy the same thing I already have.

thedocta45 said:
What the fuck are you even talking about?
Yes generic power supplies are not going have support for two 8pin connectors.
I have a desktop that has a single 8pin connector, but if Im going to spend 700 bucks on a video card I'm going to upgrade the power supply, not you some Basic PSU on a high performance gaming machine.
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Dude if I can run a board without doing that I'm going to do that and everyone else would too. You pretend like everyone is going for top performance above all else when they aren't. This isn't a hard concept but for whatever reason a few and obviously you seem to miss the plane.

thedocta45 said:
Who is the target demographic people who are to stupid to understand the importance of a quality power supply unit in a gaming rig, and people who bought an OEM computer?
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I think there's more people like that then you think.

thedocta45 said:
There are positives of this card its small, it uses the least power of any current AMD card, and its very fast for its form factor.

The problem is why would I buy this and not a Fury X?
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You're proving the point. You list supposed positive things then your brain doesn't process them and then you ask me, "Why?" I know why I would get it and you don't. That's not my problem. I can talk to you about it but it's not my problem.

thedocta45 said:
Its so much a niche product that I would call it a proof of concept.
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This was said before. Ask for new material. Thanks.


thedocta45 said:
Great Best Buy, if your a GFX manufacture and your target demographic is Best Buy with your latest and greatest your really out of touch.
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Not really since for some reason there's a select few that can't understand that builds can have power AND space limits.
 
Can someone link me the perfect small case for this stupid card?

I keep finding stuff so small you better have on board video, or things I know someone has stuffed a 980 into.

So in an effort to try and be positive over a product I kind of hate, what is the right case to showcase this card?

To me a Cooler Master Elite 130 is a very small case, but I can fit a 13 inch card in there with a real PSU or a LIAN LI PC-Q25B , still plenty of room
 
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zaniix said:
Can someone link me the perfect small case for this stupid card?

I keep finding stuff so small you better have on board video, or things I know someone has stuffed a 980 into.

So in an effort to try and be positive over a product I kind of hate, what is the right case to showcase this card?

To me a Cooler Master Elite 130 is a very small case, but I can fit a 13 inch card in there with a real PSU or a LIAN LI PC-Q25B , still plenty of room
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Well I can tell you what I'm planning on using it for. I am working on a follow up to this How-To Guide. (Mega KVM All-In-One) Linux Workstation + Windows Gaming Machine + HTPC (MythTV)+ "Special Video Transcode" + ZFS Fileserver (maybe LVM might be better) on an Intel Xeon 8-Core

In that guide I'm really just testing viability. That setup works. So it's time to consolidate more.

It's a server chassis. So there's definitely no room for a FuryX. I actually wanted it to be somewhat of a surprise because I haven't seen what I'm planning here before. What I'm planning is a mega all-in-one using KVM for multiple GPU passthrough. Therefore if I can save space and power I am going to do it. For only 100 bucks extra? I'll live. Long boards won't work here. I'm going to see if I can't keep my EVGA 750TI but i might move to a single slot version. So I'm thinking a Nano (power and space savings) (driving three monitors)+ two 750 Ti's ( power and space savings) (one driving two monitors and another driving a 1080 TV where there's enough power from the 750 TI to game on it) on a 900W Enermax Revolution. The Nano is going to power the Windows VM, and the two 750 Ti's will power the HTPC and the Linux workstation. The Nano might not like to be passed through but that's the fun in my builds there's always some place where I'm reaching out side of what's possible and that's what makes building computer set ups soooo much fun.

So in my case I get something that performs better than a 970 and much closer to a 980 (if not better hopefully) with a savings of space and only a single 12V line to power the Nano. All of the other molex (which I need) will power the hard drives. That's why it makes sense for me. I can't speak for anyone else but a mixture of Nvidia and AMD on a mixture of Linux and Windows works well for me in this case. For me it's using the best device for the best job. I honestly couldn't care less about what manufacturer but really it's about building the best bad ass VM server possible. I'm using every fucking manufacturer I can find to pull this off. :)
 
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zaniix said:
Can someone link me the perfect small case for this stupid card?

I keep finding stuff so small you better have on board video, or things I know someone has stuffed a 980 into.

So in an effort to try and be positive over a product I kind of hate, what is the right case to showcase this card?

To me a Cooler Master Elite 130 is a very small case, but I can fit a 13 inch card in there with a real PSU or a LIAN LI PC-Q25B , still plenty of room
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112372
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA66Z2KU0799
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112408

I could keep going but I think you can figure it out yourself. Stop thinking case that are 10 plus inches long. A micro atx motherboard is 9.6 x 9.6 so why are all these supposed sff cases so big. Hell most of them have a micro atx version of them. Look at Silverstones and BitFenix cases. So when they make versions for itx, just tells me they are mismanaging the layout of their cases.

It would be like calling a GT 720 or R5 230 gaming graphic cards. You can call them whatever you want, but if they truly gaming graphic cards, no one would be buying titan x, gtx 980 ti, or R9- Fury X.
 
Now that I think of it, that whole Quantum project amd talked about should have been repurposed and redesigned for a single nano card, or a dual nano config. A custom case designed such that ONLY something as small as a fury nano could be used, or some equivalent low profile card. Then people talking about :

Well that case could just as easily fit a 980 ti would not be able to say that. AMD needed to provide the proof of concept themselves as to what was possible in tandem with letting people create their own custom mods. Why? Because not all of those custom mods would or could be as LASER focused on designing the smallest possible space for this card.

AMD should hire me for ideas.
 
cageymaru said:
I think they consider it to be the Titan X of SFF cards. Titan X is $1,000 and nobody complains about that because it is in a league of it's own. The Fury X may not fit all of the SFF cases because of the water cooler. Thus compared to the GTX 970, the Nano is in a league of it's own going by the numbers that PCPer posted.

At any rate I think that $650 is overpriced. Then again the Titan is $1,000. Maybe we're just conditioned to think of AMD as the cheap alternative when really they're really on the same footing as Nvidia?
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When Titan X launched it was a league of its own since there was no card powerful than it. It also has the highest amount of vram on a single gpu. So it is unique.

When Nano launched there are 3 other cards that curb stomp it in terms of performance and noise. The only thing it has benefit of is small size which is also now demonstrated multiple times is niche of a niche market. So whilst Titan X enjoyed some exclusivity, be it even for 3 months, this card is almost DOA from even a luxury standpoint.

Also running 43 db+ in a small case really defeats the purpose of this card.
 
KickAssCop said:
When Titan X launched it was a league of its own since there was no card powerful than it. It also has the highest amount of vram on a single gpu. So it is unique.

When Nano launched there are 3 other cards that curb stomp it in terms of performance and noise. The only thing it has benefit of is small size which is also now demonstrated multiple times is niche of a niche market. So whilst Titan X enjoyed some exclusivity, be it even for 3 months, this card is almost DOA from even a luxury standpoint.

Also running 43 db+ in a small case really defeats the purpose of this card.
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It has it's place in cases that you can not fit a full size card into. If the Nano has no purpose then the SFF 970 has even less relevance as it is slow and small.
 
cageymaru said:
It has it's place in cases that you can not fit a full size card into. If the Nano has no purpose then the SFF 970 has even less relevance as it is slow and small.
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I think it is important there is only 1 other "SFF" card this generation. It means something, and shows us something. That support only came from an add-in-board partner at that, it isn't even an NVIDIA reference spec. I wonder how the SFF 970 sales have been.

If NV puts out a SFF GTX 980, the Nano will have some competition.

2 Things will happen: Either AMD's attempt at this market will fail, and we won't see any competition or future emphasis on where the Nano is position, or, it will light a fire under NVIDIA to compete and a whole new video card war in the SFF realm is about to happen.
 
Brent_Justice said:
I think it is important there is only 1 other "SFF" card this generation. It means something, and shows us something. That support only came from an add-in-board partner at that, it isn't even an NVIDIA reference spec. I wonder how the SFF 970 sales have been.

If NV puts out a SFF GTX 980, the Nano will have some competition.

2 Things will happen: Either AMD's attempt at this market will fail, and we won't see any competition or future emphasis on where the Nano is position, or, it will light a fire under NVIDIA to compete and a whole new video card war in the SFF realm is about to happen.
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Most sites are showing the $350 GTX970-DCMOC-4GD5.
Most are ignoring the $290 GV-N970IXOC-4GD for some reason.

But yeah, nothing currently competes with it above 1080p for Mini ITX.
 
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2 Things will happen: Either AMD's attempt at this market will fail, and we won't see any competition or future emphasis on where the Nano is position, or, it will light a fire under NVIDIA to compete and a whole new video card war in the SFF realm is about to happen.
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The former is a ton more likely than the latter. Current SFF setups are already at the point where further shrinks in physical sizing is going to introduce severe compromises in compatibility and performance.
 
Brent_Justice said:
I think it is important there is only 1 other "SFF" card this generation. It means something, and shows us something. That support only came from an add-in-board partner at that, it isn't even an NVIDIA reference spec. I wonder how the SFF 970 sales have been.

If NV puts out a SFF GTX 980, the Nano will have some competition.

2 Things will happen: Either AMD's attempt at this market will fail, and we won't see any competition or future emphasis on where the Nano is position, or, it will light a fire under NVIDIA to compete and a whole new video card war in the SFF realm is about to happen.
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The answer to your question would be to look at the overall gamer market and then figure out what percentage of those bother with mini-ITX systems that can't fit a regular sized graphics card. I'd be willing to bet that it's such a tiny percentage of the market that NVIDIA sees no real benefit in pursuing it. Those guys aren't stupid, if AMD has thought of it, you can be they did too. Because as you know, NVIDIA has demolished AMD in the notebook market so if they felt compelled, they could've released their 980M series cards long ago in a compact package. Or better yet, if the market was big enough, custom NVIDIA motherboards made by someone like Asus that can fit NVIDIA MXM 3.0b video cards for truly compact systems. The only reason AMD is milking this whole nano phenomenon is because they ventured into the HBM territory before NVIDIA but it's more of a proof of concept than something meant for wide adaptation this generation. Once HBM 2 is out in full force, both manufacturers reference designs will be a lot smaller than what we have now.

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The writing has been on the wall for years now for computers getting smaller. First it was the smallest case that you could fit high end gear into. Now people like SilverStone are making high end SFX power supplies. With the introduction of high end small graphic cards, you will start to see even smaller cases.
I wish there would of been all of these small cases and high end components when I use to go to lan parties. I use to drag around an SG03B-f and then later a SG04B-FH. Now I am building portable gaming computers for my daughters that are half the size. They wanted gaming laptops but I refuse to purchase something that is designed to die in a couple of years. This will give them a great gaming desktop that is very portable.

EDIT. Nvidia might be killing AMD in the laptop department, but that is nothing to brag about. I purchased a gaming laptop from alienware 3 years ago. In those 3 years I had to send it back in 4 times because of problems with overheating and artifacting. That is nothing to be bragging about or even wanting your name attached to it.
 
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You do realize AMD nor nVidia nor Intel control:

A. How a manufacturer applies thermal paste
B. Cooling solution for the graphics, processor and chipset

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EDIT. Nvidia might be killing AMD in the laptop department, but that is nothing to brag about. I purchased a gaming laptop from alienware 3 years ago. In those 3 years I had to send it back in 4 times because of problems with overheating and artifacting. That is nothing to be bragging about or even wanting your name attached to it.
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I was thinking... AMD should really promote their cards more to Slot & Pachinko makers.

Now there is a possible market were having a tiny footprint//power comsumption would matter more than the initial hardware investment.

I know that they are already selling their APU's but maybe this card could single handedly power up even more displays at once with better graphics to keep the gamblers invested.

I am really trying to find a mass market use.
 
Brent_Justice said:
I think it is important there is only 1 other "SFF" card this generation. It means something, and shows us something. That support only came from an add-in-board partner at that, it isn't even an NVIDIA reference spec. I wonder how the SFF 970 sales have been.

If NV puts out a SFF GTX 980, the Nano will have some competition.

2 Things will happen: Either AMD's attempt at this market will fail, and we won't see any competition or future emphasis on where the Nano is position, or, it will light a fire under NVIDIA to compete and a whole new video card war in the SFF realm is about to happen.
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Well assuming that ALL video cards sporting HBM, HBM2, etc will be around the same size, I could easily see a new market opening up in the future. :)
 
cageymaru said:
Well assuming that ALL video cards sporting HBM, HBM2, etc will be around the same size, I could easily see a new market opening up in the future. :)
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:) you got it, is there any reason they should be bigger ?

The Nono is just a glimpse of next generation form factor. Sadly 28nm cant support low enogh tdp. But its a glimpse into the future.
 
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