OLED 4K TV with 4:4:4 HDMI 2.0 spotted, what about burn-in?

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There's a test of an LG OLED TV over on tweakers.net that says its the best TV ever. Very nice picture quality, HDMI2.0 does support 4:4:4. Bit high lag of around 50ms, but I'm no gamer.

However good it looks, I do keep hearing about burn-in problems with OLED, so is this suitable for desktop work? Anyone here ever used an OLED screen for PC work?
 
I have been using this TV for the past month. No issues... except for trying to get a model without dead pixels. Have my 3rd one being delivered tomorrow.

Had a Samsung JU7500 and JS9000 prior to that - they went back because their picture quality can't touch that of OLED. They look awful compared to it.

The lag is currently noticeable, but not unmanageable. Could be fixed later with firmware, hopefully.
 
What's the model # of this LG TV?

Edit: I'm assuming it's either the EG960 or EG970. Neither of which are available in anything smaller than 55". :( The biggest I can go is 43".
 
kabobi said:
What's the model # of this LG TV?

Edit: I'm assuming it's either the EG960 or EG970. Neither of which are available in anything smaller than 55". :( The biggest I can go is 43".
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Yeah I hope LG comes out with some models in the 40" range... maybe next year.

I've got the 55" 1080p OLED, due to the low PPI I don't find it suitable for desktop usage, but games look incredible on it.
 
x3sphere said:
Yeah I hope LG comes out with some models in the 40" range... maybe next year.

I've got the 55" 1080p OLED, due to the low PPI I don't find it suitable for desktop usage, but games look incredible on it.
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Same here, looking to get a 40-43-inch OLED when they become available.
 
I've just got my 55" LG Curved 4K OLED in (55EG9600). The picture quality is insane. It's like eye porn. It does 60 Hz 4:4:4. Going to test it more and report soon.


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Vega said:
That is one of those bait and switch web sites that sell out of country/non warranty displays (notice the AU/CA tacked onto the end of the model, meaning Australia/Canada). This is the real price:

http://www.amazon.com/LG-Electronic...ie=UTF8&qid=1441597318&sr=8-2&keywords=eg9600

It's up to you to determine if $4K is an acceptable price for a computer monitor.
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Welcome to the club! Your panel may have a defect like mine, any many others, does though. The edges (left and right side) get much darker than they should when the average power level of the panel is low (dark/dim content). This is visible in some every day content, such as dark scenes in movies and games. It is easy to spot on low % (5-10%) grayscale tests, or any test where you can display a really dark gray.

Contact LG VIP support to arrange a panel replacement. My new one is going to be here soon.
 
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Nitemare3219 said:
Welcome to the club! Your panel may have a defect like mine, any many others, does though. The edges (left and right side) get much darker than they should when the average power level of the panel is low (dark/dim content). This is visible in some every day content, such as dark scenes in movies and games. It is easy to spot on low % (5-10%) grayscale tests, or any test where you can display a really dark gray.

Contact LG VIP support to arrange a panel replacement. My new one is going to be here soon.
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I've been up to date on that over on AVSForum. Mine appears to have it a little, not nearly as bad as some peoples though.
 
I'll bite on a 4K OLED TV for my next monitor if one's available in the 40" - 46" range. I love my 40" 4K 7500. OLED in this package would be immaculate.
 
Curious Vega if you notice the screen door effect/dithering with that OLED up close?

I have been on the edge of buying one for months but I hear the OLED's show a screen door/dithering when viewed up close(some what like a Plasma)
 
Martha Stewart said:
Curious Vega if you notice the screen door effect/dithering with that OLED up close?

I have been on the edge of buying one for months but I hear the OLED's show a screen door/dithering when viewed up close(some what like a Plasma)
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Hmm, haven't noticed that but have any images you want me to test?
 
I swear, if Vega was a character in some fantasy world he'd have his own Vault of heaven, there would be stadium sized oled screens that dwarfed the most opulent imax sized screens. He's already getting just about as close as he can in the real world with all these tripple bezel stripped down projects and now oled tvs.
 
im not going OLED until a 64-65 inch is released for around 2800.00

my 64" F8500 works nice since 2014
 
x3sphere said:
Street price on the current 65" is already down to around $4700, so, I think that'll happen next year.
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Think i will wait for Samsung to release its own OLED. Never was a big fan of LG products.. Might be another 3 years but once they come it will blow all these LG OLED screens out of the water..
 
Vega said:
I've just got my 55" LG Curved 4K OLED in (55EG9600). The picture quality is insane. It's like eye porn. It does 60 Hz 4:4:4. Going to test it more and report soon.


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Need a reg key to go with that OLED? ;-)
 
That monitor looks mighty fine. Will there be any OLED IPS displays within 40-44" range, curved or not? It seems like the best IPS we have right now is LED with freesync, 10bit and 4:4:4. Not sure if having OLED would be a huge bonus though. I am not a monitor expert.

Also is that OLED display matte or glossy? Looks pretty matte which is great. Good choice man :)
 
lmfao "OLED IPS"
ahahahahha

*ahem* sorry
IPS is a LCD panel technology, where there is a backlight and each pixel is simply a gate, allowing various amounts of light through.
OLED panel technology is where each pixel is it's own light emitting diode, rather than a simple gate.
 
Gotcha, in this case are there any OLED displays with those nice features I listed above? I don't see them mentioned, but maybe that's because OLED's are several times more expensive than IPS panels so people aren't as interested in them?

Basically an OLED panel 40-44" range with freesync, 10bit and 4:4:4, etc. Also not sure if they refresh as fast as IPS but 60Hz would be nice which seems to be standard in many IPS panels.
 
I'm not up on state of the art in OLED tech... what's the transition speed of the OLEDs? Is that 50ms lag a product of early firmware, or is it more a fundamental limitation to the tech itself?

The picture quality prospects are exciting, but I'm not going to get too wrapped up in it myself if it looks like it's going be several years more before you can really do competitive, fast-action gaming on it.
 
Very happy to see some people made the leap to the 4K OLED displays now. I have been enjoying my 1080p model for quite a while now and I still don't have any burn-in (or other issues). I still gush every time I use my OLED because the picture is so great.
 
lachdanan said:
Gotcha, in this case are there any OLED displays with those nice features I listed above? I don't see them mentioned, but maybe that's because OLED's are several times more expensive than IPS panels so people aren't as interested in them?

Basically an OLED panel 40-44" range with freesync, 10bit and 4:4:4, etc. Also not sure if they refresh as fast as IPS but 60Hz would be nice which seems to be standard in many IPS panels.
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There are no OLED with Freesync. 2015 OLED TV's can do 4:4:4 60 Hz.

NervousEnergy said:
I'm not up on state of the art in OLED tech... what's the transition speed of the OLEDs? Is that 50ms lag a product of early firmware, or is it more a fundamental limitation to the tech itself?

The picture quality prospects are exciting, but I'm not going to get too wrapped up in it myself if it looks like it's going be several years more before you can really do competitive, fast-action gaming on it.
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Pixel transition speed for OLED is extremely fast, .01 ms or quicker. For all intents and purposes there is zero pixel transition ghosting or overdrive artifacts. OLED display motion blur is pretty much 100% eye tracking based. Input lag you mention is an outcome of the electronics used by the TV, not because of OLED technology. It can be adjusted by firmware.

As for fast action FPS gaming, just like any other 60 Hz display, not recommended. I use the display for flight and space sims etc which it does great at.

Fleat said:
Very happy to see some people made the leap to the 4K OLED displays now. I have been enjoying my 1080p model for quite a while now and I still don't have any burn-in (or other issues). I still gush every time I use my OLED because the picture is so great.
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The picture on 4K OLED is insane. There is pretty much 4K OLED, and then everything else many tiers down.

Even Samsung's expensive FALD JS9500 series TV looked crappy next to it. That's a $7,000 LCD!
 
Vega said:
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The picture on 4K OLED is insane. There is pretty much 4K OLED, and then everything else many tiers down.

Even Samsung's expensive FALD JS9500 series TV looked crappy next to it. That's a $7,000 LCD!
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I bet, I will have to see if I can check one out in person. I am really hoping that we see some 100"+ 4K OLED displays at a reasonable price in the near future. I would happily replace my projector and screen with an OLED even though it would probably be a bit smaller. My experience with OLED ownership thus far has been really positive.
 
Vega said:
I've just got my 55" LG Curved 4K OLED in (55EG9600). The picture quality is insane. It's like eye porn. It does 60 Hz 4:4:4. Going to test it more and report soon.


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Beautiful setup. What desk is that?
 
NervousEnergy said:
I'm not up on state of the art in OLED tech... what's the transition speed of the OLEDs? Is that 50ms lag a product of early firmware, or is it more a fundamental limitation to the tech itself?

The picture quality prospects are exciting, but I'm not going to get too wrapped up in it myself if it looks like it's going be several years more before you can really do competitive, fast-action gaming on it.
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There is no limitation inherent to OLED as far as I know

LG just does not care about those things generally. It's unfortunate. All of their 4K LCDs have way higher input lag than the competition (50-60 ms) so not surprisingly the OLEDs do as well.

I think we'll have to wait for Panasonic's OLED to get a set with much better processing etc. I have the 1080p EC9300 right now, been very pleased with it, even with some of the shortcomings it's way better than any LCD I've used (even 4K LCDs). The contrast is mind blowing. If you thought moving to a 4K was a huge change, well the PQ jump from OLED will make it seem very tiny in comparison.
 
Vega said:
There are no OLED with Freesync. 2015 OLED TV's can do 4:4:4 60 Hz.
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Thanks for replying. So you don't use hi-DPI settings in Windows and other apps, right? At this size do applications look larger than normal? My estimation is that 44" gives pretty identical dpi setting to regular computer monitors. Anything above things should start to appear larger than normal at the same viewing distance.

But this is based on my theory. I never used a large display like that for a PC to tell more, so would love to hear your take on it.

Does the curved display help with visibility while using desktop apps?

Btw is that a cat living under your desk? :)
 
Vega said:
I've just got my 55" LG Curved 4K OLED in (55EG9600). The picture quality is insane. It's like eye porn. It does 60 Hz 4:4:4. Going to test it more and report soon.


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Soooo jealous man :mad: I'll have to wait another 2-3 years before I can get my own 4k OLED when the price comes down. :(
 
I've decided not to go 4k until I can afford OLED 4k. I've been reading about the tech for over 6 months and have reviewed all the owners threads. Burn in doesn't exist but image retention does if you leave a logo on for a long time. For those that don't know "image retention" is like short-term burn in, it dissipates and then goes away completely. The "dark edges" issues with the first generation of 9300s and 9600s has been resolved. The motion judder has been resolved by using "just scan". The input lag on PC mode is too damn high.

The TV to be excited about right now (For computer use and 4k BR) is the LG EG9200. It's basically a more affordable 55EG9600 with 4k Bluray support, a slimmer bezel and web OS 2.0. The EG9600 can't do 4k bluray because it doesn't have HDMI 2.0a.

http://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-ol...0-budget-4k-oled-hdr-anticipation-thread.html
 
Pastuch said:
I've decided not to go 4k until I can afford OLED 4k. I've been reading about the tech for over 6 months and have reviewed all the owners threads. Burn in doesn't exist but image retention does if you leave a logo on for a long time. For those that don't know "image retention" is like short-term burn in, it dissipates and then goes away completely. The "dark edges" issues with the first generation of 9300s and 9600s has been resolved. The motion judder has been resolved by using "just scan". The input lag on PC mode is too damn high.

The TV to be excited about right now (For computer use and 4k BR) is the LG EG9200. It's basically a more affordable 55EG9600 with 4k Bluray support, a slimmer bezel and web OS 2.0. The EG9600 can't do 4k bluray because it doesn't have HDMI 2.0a.

http://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-ol...0-budget-4k-oled-hdr-anticipation-thread.html
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The EG9200 sounds promising. But, I hope they come out with a smaller one. 42 - 48" would be good. I don't really want to go 55" for monitor use.
 
hello1234 said:
Beautiful setup. What desk is that?
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Custom stainless steel one I made from years ago when I had to support 300lb's of multi-monitor FW900's. ;)

lachdanan said:
Thanks for replying. So you don't use hi-DPI settings in Windows and other apps, right? At this size do applications look larger than normal? My estimation is that 44" gives pretty identical dpi setting to regular computer monitors. Anything above things should start to appear larger than normal at the same viewing distance.

But this is based on my theory. I never used a large display like that for a PC to tell more, so would love to hear your take on it.

Does the curved display help with visibility while using desktop apps?

Btw is that a cat living under your desk? :)
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I only use 120% scaling in Win 10. OLED has really amazing viewing angles. I prefer curved screens and the far corners of the display look just as good as the center while sitting relatively close. No other display tech does that so well. Reason why OLED is so great for immersion.

That's my German Shepherd sitting in the seat in front of my desk at the bay window with a toy. ;)

Pastuch said:
I've decided not to go 4k until I can afford OLED 4k. I've been reading about the tech for over 6 months and have reviewed all the owners threads. Burn in doesn't exist but image retention does if you leave a logo on for a long time. For those that don't know "image retention" is like short-term burn in, it dissipates and then goes away completely. The "dark edges" issues with the first generation of 9300s and 9600s has been resolved. The motion judder has been resolved by using "just scan". The input lag on PC mode is too damn high.

The TV to be excited about right now (For computer use and 4k BR) is the LG EG9200. It's basically a more affordable 55EG9600 with 4k Bluray support, a slimmer bezel and web OS 2.0. The EG9600 can't do 4k bluray because it doesn't have HDMI 2.0a.

http://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-ol...0-budget-4k-oled-hdr-anticipation-thread.html
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As for a 1 millimeter difference in bezel, hardly worth mentioning. The EG9600 already has web OS 2.0 and a firmware update is all that is needed for HDMI 2.0a. The big thing is that it already has the full HDMI 2.0 speed chip in it, which a lot of TV's even in 2015 do not.
 
That's gorgeous...

Do you use it for work at all? I'd love one of these for programming and fun.
 
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