AMD Radeon R9 Nano Video Card PAPER Launch @ [H]

the price makes me sad. This was the only I was most looking forward to, but I also thought it was be much cheaper from the older leaked info about it.
 
Modred189 said:
HTPC card advertised for 4k... but no HDMI 2.0?
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This.
And the price.

I thought they might decide to get it together after Fury X otherwise we will lose them.
They are in self destruct mode.

Perhaps they have so few of these that they can afford to put a high price on them?
Or maybe they cost so much to make that they dare not price them lower?
No matter which, a very large cause for concern.
 
Depending on how the nano ends up performing, it could give hope for the future X2.

Certainly a 350w dual card seems more feasable than 550w even with water cooler.
 
harmattan said:
According to many Apple naysayers, Anand actually "sold" that site long before last year, it just wasn't announced. I do find it funny his name is still on the site, however.

As for Nano, I guffawed when I saw the price as well. That said, if buying high-end laptop GPUs for the past 7-8 years have taught me anything, you pay for smaller size (for a number of practical and manufactured reasons). Still though, who's going to pay this much when most ITXs fit a 980 ti anyways.
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As of late we have more itx cases with support for full length cards, even a few 10L or smaller cases are coming out, but the vast majority of ITX is not full length friendly. This from a guy who had to trim a fan shroud on a 270 to fit in a Q11 and SG05. That is one reason why Dondan's A4 has so much hype in the SFF forum.
 
Brent_Justice said:
That is not how it was presented to us in the briefing.
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I can imagine you are also not impressed because you will need to include a card in the 980ti/Fury X price range reviews that will have almost no customers.
Lots of work for a small viewer base.
 
I was considering getting 2 of these at around a R9 390x or so price. However, at $649, they must as well just die now. :( I am an AMD fan but people who are in charge just do not seem to get it. Oh well, I guess I will be running my R9 290 for a while longer.
 
I get the sense this is one of those "Look what we did, Ma!" type products...
 
So I can actually speak as a potential customer here, since I have a 65" 4K TV and an expensive mITX gaming PC (currently running a mITX R9 285 and an i5 4690K).

I was hoping this would be an interesting alternative, but

1) No HDMI 2.0

and

2) If I am going to spend $650 I'd just get a 980 Ti since I can fit full size cards in my NCASE M1.

This is a confusing product.
 
Nenu said:
I can imagine you are also not impressed because you will need to include a card in the 980ti/Fury X price range reviews that will have almost no customers.
Lots of work for a small viewer base.
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I don't see this card entering our workload beyond the initial review. It is a niche of a niche product in my opinion.
 
Well Brent or Kyle does not need to test this card, to tell us that it is not a good performer for its price, thats given , it will be slower than Fury x, and since Fury x is (for now) slower that the TI, the conclusion is already given, and its fair enough for the metrics that [H] tests for.

For us that consider this card, if it is noisy then it will loose, it has to be wishper quiet, and it has to come a solution for TV. Wich i know a hwsite has the solution in for testeing, and i has to be good case design for it, with todays flatscreen TVs it has to be a design that fit beutifully under ur tv. Wich meens it cant be to deep, so yes a good nano build is a challange, and well im scanning alibaba, and local stores already for the case i want.
 
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Nenu said:
I can imagine you are also not impressed because you will need to include a card in the 980ti/Fury X price range reviews that will have almost no customers.
Lots of work for a small viewer base.
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My guess is that they will do a thorough test of the card upon release, and if it doesn't perform well/gains few customers, they will drop it. They aren't forced to include every SKU in every review.
 
BTW why does AMD keep using Intel chips to showcase their products?

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Stoly said:
BTW why does AMD keep using Intel chips to showcase their products?
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Because even AMD knows that hardware enthusiasts prefer Intel CPUs and they don't want to look that much out of touch?
 
I think you guys (media) need to stop labelling these "paper launches". A Launch is when products are available for purchase, this is a product announcement.
 
$650 for $320 worth of competitors performance. What in the actual fuck?

This disappoints me. I was really hoping the Nano would be a huge success. :(
 
Quix said:
I think you guys (media) need to stop labelling these "paper launches". A Launch is when products are available for purchase, this is a product announcement.
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To say "stop labelling [sic]" these paper launches would imply that we have done it more than once. I titled the article as such because I thought it was fitting. Your thoughts are noted.
 
Rizen said:
So I can actually speak as a potential customer here, since I have a 65" 4K TV and an expensive mITX gaming PC (currently running a mITX R9 285 and an i5 4690K).

I was hoping this would be an interesting alternative, but

1) No HDMI 2.0

and

2) If I am going to spend $650 I'd just get a 980 Ti since I can fit full size cards in my NCASE M1.

This is a confusing product.
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Well im also a potential buyer, and as you, it will be in the living room, under the tv, so it does need a solution that fit the tv, so hope the adapter will be good, and the next callange will be to find a case that is not so deep, whats the use for a flatscreentv, if the case is to deep. And well if it is wishper quiet, and the active adapter is good, im buying. I love a challinge build.
 
After thinking about it I am not too surprised by the price. I don't like it, but I am not surprised by it.

After all, how much does a good high-end CPU heatsink and fan cost compared to a "water" cooler like the FuryX has?

The development cost for the Nano cooler was probably a lot higher than for the FuryX.

And that right there is probably a big part of why they are priced the same.
 
cageymaru said:
It's NOT a midrange card. It is almost a full Fury X.
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If it's performance competes with 970 and 980 (non-Ti) then yeah it's a mid-range card, like the Fury X. But the nano comes with a huge price premium and LESS features (HDMI 1.4 and 4 GB memory limitations come to mind)
 
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I don't know what happened at AMD between the 290X launch and now, but holy shit. I had a 9800 Pro and a 6950, and I liked both. I would buy AMD again.... but not like this.
 
While we are discussing Nano potential performance, and figuring it is about 10% slower than Fury X, let us also remind ourselves where the Fury X actually lines up compared to the competition. For a $649 video card the Fury X cannot come anywhere near the level of performance of a GTX 980 Ti. The Fury X, the one with the 275W TDP only competes with the GTX 980, offering a better experience than the GTX 980, but not near the GTX 980 Ti at the same price.

If the Nano is 10% slower than the Fury X, at best it will be equal to the GTX 980 in gameplay. Keep that in mind when you talk about the Nano costing $649, at the same price as a GTX 980 Ti, the Fury X itself is not competition for the 980 Ti at $649, and the Nano will be even slower than that.

Reference our latest GTX 980 Ti review:

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2015/08/11/gigabyte_gtx_980_ti_g1_gaming_video_card_review/
 
You know what makes me laugh about this press briefing?

They go, "Look how much space you'll save". Meanwhile they pick cases with a TON of dead space in them. Seriously? They intentionally picked the biggest cases they could.

I can fit a Fury X into a lot of ITX cases. It would be tight, but I could do it. But I sure in hell wouldn't. I would pick a 980 or 980 Ti

Sense WHEN have serious gamers ever been worried about space? Even with LAN parties, it isn't hard to get a 980/980Ti in a ITX case.

Sense WHEN have serious gamers ever been worried about heat? The only thing that made us worry about heat was maximum performance being capped by heat. The Nano is already performance limited and NOT due to heat.

It is a stillborn product.

This was AMDs chance to go, "Here is an alternative to the 390X" for a few bucks cheaper. We all know that halo products are nice. But the mid-range is where they sell the most.
 
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Ever since AMD bought ATI, they've driven their add-in video card business into the ground just like their cpu's and keep losing market share hand over fist. Nvidia is no longer threaten by this and will continue to charge a premium for their cards. Thanks AMD for fawking over your customers. The only reason you're still in business is because of consoles.
 
When I look at this card I see what Fiji could have been. If this was the top end card that was designed to compete with the 980 (and priced to compete with the 980), it would be a good card. Performance and power draw about the same.

Maybe the furry x was a reaction to the Titan and 980ti? Amd increased the voltage to up the clocks and power draw went skyrocketing.
 
It seems like that after AMD bought out ATI technologies, that their entire research and development department ceased to exist, and only use the ideas that ATI had in place already. It seems like to me, that AMD has no clue as to where to go with new and emerging technologies, or how to best Nvidia in this technology war. I can only hope for AMD's sake, that DX12 does wonders for their existing cards, which would allow them to have firmer grounding in their prices.
 
Commander Suzdal said:
I can't believe they still plaster "4K" all over their marketing for this, when they got completely owned for that with the Fury X, a faster card. "Brings 4K to the living room!" Maybe they mean your media PC will cost $4,000 if you include this card in the build.
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4k for the living room, unless you use HDMI and want 60hz, then good luck
 
Brent_Justice said:
While we are discussing Nano potential performance, and figuring it is about 10% slower than Fury X, let us also remind ourselves where the Fury X actually lines up compared to the competition. For a $649 video card the Fury X cannot come anywhere near the level of performance of a GTX 980 Ti. The Fury X, the one with the 275W TDP only competes with the GTX 980, offering a better experience than the GTX 980, but not near the GTX 980 Ti at the same price.

If the Nano is 10% slower than the Fury X, at best it will be equal to the GTX 980 in gameplay. Keep that in mind when you talk about the Nano costing $649, at the same price as a GTX 980 Ti, the Fury X itself is not competition for the 980 Ti at $649, and the Nano will be even slower than that.

Reference our latest GTX 980 Ti review:

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2015/08/11/gigabyte_gtx_980_ti_g1_gaming_video_card_review/
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Thats sound like it is correct, and for thoose who want a standard pc, the nano , if its price is 649$ , its crap, i will however buy it on a diffrent metric, sound and size, the size is right, the performase should be there, especially in CF, for a powerful small and silent living room GHTPC, but well i do hope the http://www.ultra-hdtv.net/club-3d-displayport-hdmi-2-0-adapter-mit-4k60hz-in-arbeit/, is the solution, but for the metrics that [H] test for , it will be crap, as Kyle said, we who wants this is a niche, and a small one for the time beeing, but luckely big enough for AMD, to care :)

Edit: but if it is nosiy, then its a fail.
 
Snus said:
Well im also a potential buyer, and as you, it will be in the living room, under the tv, so it does need a solution that fit the tv, so hope the adapter will be good, and the next callange will be to find a case that is not so deep, whats the use for a flatscreentv, if the case is to deep. And well if it is wishper quiet, and the active adapter is good, im buying. I love a challinge build.
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Why do you need a shallow case just because you have a flat screen? I have plenty of room in my entertainment center. This is my setup.



The M1 isn't a large case, and it can still fit most full size video cards. The harder part is finding good SFF power supplies.

I feel like with the proliferation of more good mITX cases that can handle larger video cards, the market for a 6" card is going to be smaller. My guess as to why AMD is pricing these so high: they'll be very, very limited supply and so it doesn't matter what the price is, they'll still sell through inventory.
 
Thats a nice setup, at i recon its the M1, is the one down right, and i agree with you, its a small niche the nano at its price is aimed for.

And the M1 looks good there, so for the nano there have to come some real good designer cases, with a wow factor, i recon that is why AMD have sent some samples to modders for building cases for the nano.

But we who aims for that , we dosnt care so much for price, its all abaut looks, noise, size and performace :).

Edit: I wish B&O would design a case for Nano, thoose guys sure understand looks :)
 
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I really don't get trying to build high-performance SFF computers for high-end gaming anyway. If your main objective is to enjoy high-end gaming on your big TV, why mess with all the heat/space/power constraints? Is a decent computer case too hideous to behold in the living room? C'mon!

If it matters that much to you, put a thin, gauzy tablecloth over it and set a vase/clock/porcelain statue on top. Voila! No "ugly" computer, just a pedestal for your art!
 
Only thing I can think of is Nano Crossfire ITX maybe

still waiting on H to do a SLI vs Xfire test on Fury etc.
 
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