Ashley Madison Offers $500k Bounty

VonGriffin said:
You can tell this discussion here is done by Americans, you have it all: hypocrisy, moralization, religions babble and trying to force that on others (usually by those who pay secretly for a hooker ), ,,and all failing to grasp the main problem; its not about cheaters, their partners, children or destroyed family homes as the the fabric of your great society but theft and publication of personal data
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All true.

But privacy isn't all that sensational and doesn't allow people to bring out their phony outrage. :-P
 
I don't care about the morality of that site i care about the fallout. The hackers called for the entire company that owned it to cease a number of sites or they would release what they stole. Nothing was done so out came the genie.

now every user of that site has had their information made public. That company is liable for that. So 10 million people vs Ashley Madison in a massive class action.
 
Chas said:
Sorry, but any time anyone tries to IMPOSE their own narrow morality on me, or others, the proper response is "Fuck you".
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And my response to you is that it's not me imposing my narrow morality on anyone. It's the person entering into an agreement of a monogamous relationship imposing those conditions on himself/herself and then breaking those conditions. If you're incapable of understanding something so simple I feel sorry for you.

rezerekted said:
What utopia do you live in where there is no cheating? Who the fuck wants to have sex with the same person for 50+ years? Get real, dude. BTW, I am not married so can get away with stating the truth.
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So the point of your post is that married people can't do anything but lie? That's seriously messed up if you actually believe that.

I never said anything about any utopia. However, when people refuse to honor their word when they take marriage vows they need to accept the consequences of their actions. If you have no intention of honoring those vows you simply shouldn't get married or enter into a monogamous relationship. Believe it or not, there are people who don't sleep with anyone other than their single partner. There are also people who know that sex isn't everything.
 
Funny. People condemning adulterous relationships like religious nutcases do, yet they say the world would be better without religion. Make up your damn mind, please?
 
Zarathustra[H];1041813463 said:
Right. IMHO, the hackers - although their motives were a little messed up - did a good thing in exposing the scumbags with this hack.

I wouldn't give them up for $500k, or any amount of money if I knew who they were. I stand on principle and principle alone, and I am all for exposing scumbags and hypocrites for who they really are.

The people using that site deserve everything that is coming their way.

Now we just need a comprehensive site that is searchable, and exposes any known people on it publicly.

It may be painful for their families, but the families (including the kids) are better off knowing their dad is a scumbag as early as possible.

That, and children of divorce can do fine. I'm helping to raise my future stepson now, and he is doing fantastic. If anything, he has the benefit of TWO sets of parents to help him with homework, play baseball with and just spend quality time in general.
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Agreed.
 
Good luck collecting after AM goes bankrupt from all the lawsuits...
 
cdr_74_premium said:
Funny. People condemning adulterous relationships like religious nutcases do, yet they say the world would be better without religion. Make up your damn mind, please?
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You don't need religion to understand that a marriage is a monogamy agreement between two individuals.

The problem with adulterous relationship is not the sex part, but the fact that you are breaking an agreement with someone else. If you want to have an adulterous relationship, fine, but be upfront about it with your partner. If your partner disagrees to it, then you'll have to end that relationship first.

The problem with people who defends cheating is that they somehow think it's ok to keep their other relationship a secret because they are entitled to having both, knowing that their spouse would never agree to such arrangement. No, no one is entitled to having both.
 
cdr_74_premium said:
Funny. People condemning adulterous relationships like religious nutcases do, yet they say the world would be better without religion. Make up your damn mind, please?
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You're confusing religious belief with poor character.

Toxic people always find ways to justify their behaviors. It's why they're so hard to get rid of.
 
Hornet said:
You don't need religion to understand that a marriage is a monogamy agreement between two individuals.

The problem with adulterous relationship is not the sex part, but the fact that you are breaking an agreement with someone else. If you want to have an adulterous relationship, fine, but be upfront about it with your partner. If your partner disagrees to it, then you'll have to end that relationship first.

The problem with people who defends cheating is that they somehow think it's ok to keep their other relationship a secret because they are entitled to having both, knowing that their spouse would never agree to such arrangement. No, no one is entitled to having both.
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I get that. But then what? Behead infidels for that? The partner should know, OK. But this is a gadzillion times different from shouting "he's an adulterous S.O.B.!" to the whole fucking world to hear.
 
marriage is a monogamy agreement between two individuals.
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not to mention only for a male and female..believe it or not the concept of a marriage is not universal and is changing; people don't live 20 years anymore.

i bet you aint into swinging
 
Hornet said:
You don't need religion to understand that a marriage is a monogamy agreement between two individuals.
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Uh... what about polygamous people? They marry, and only reason they don't (maybe) in US is because it's illegal to.
 
or couple that tolerate having partners outside the marriage or polyamory for example
 
pothb said:
Uh... what about polygamous people? They marry, and only reason they don't (maybe) in US is because it's illegal to.
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Polygamous people should have no need for Ashley Madison, considering Ashley Madison's entire theme of deception.

Fuck all the people involved in this site. If they want to off themselves over their own stupid decisions, that's on them. The more habitual liars kill themselves, the better off society will be.
 
Stiletto said:
Polygamous people should have no need for Ashley Madison, considering Ashley Madison's entire theme of deception.

Fuck all the people involved in this site. If they want to off themselves over their own stupid decisions, that's on them. The more habitual liars kill themselves, the better off society will be.
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People with such anger and lack of compassion and such a sad view of life that are okay with mass suicides, have no place in society either. Just saying.
 
SmokeRngs said:
And my response to you is that it's not me imposing my narrow morality on anyone. It's the person entering into an agreement of a monogamous relationship imposing those conditions on himself/herself and then breaking those conditions. If you're incapable of understanding something so simple I feel sorry for you.



So the point of your post is that married people can't do anything but lie? That's seriously messed up if you actually believe that.

I never said anything about any utopia. However, when people refuse to honor their word when they take marriage vows they need to accept the consequences of their actions. If you have no intention of honoring those vows you simply shouldn't get married or enter into a monogamous relationship. Believe it or not, there are people who don't sleep with anyone other than their single partner. There are also people who know that sex isn't everything.
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And again, not everyone on Ashley Madison was using it for cheating.

Repeat this after me :

Not everyone on Ashley Madison was using it for cheating

You have no idea what any individual account was used for.
 
Darunion said:
People with such anger and lack of compassion and such a sad view of life that are okay with mass suicides, have no place in society either. Just saying.
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There was no anger in my statement. Lack of compassion? Yes. I have little to no respect to willfully dishonest, deceitful people. You're obviously different than me.
 
damicatz said:
And again, not everyone on Ashley Madison was using it for cheating.

Repeat this after me :

Not everyone on Ashley Madison was using it for cheating

You have no idea what any individual account was used for.
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I totally forgot about the Ashley Madison private email accounts and grocery delivery services. Thanks for reminding me.

Those straws: why do you grasp at them so?
 
I have little to no respect to willfully dishonest, deceitful people.
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the real question is why would you even care about private lives of others? where does all this righteous tendency come from?
 
Stiletto said:
There was no anger in my statement. Lack of compassion? Yes. I have little to no respect to willfully dishonest, deceitful people. You're obviously different than me.
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That pretty much sums up every human being (every possible occupation involves some form of willfully lying to someone else) , obviously not yourself because you have no skeletons in your closet and have never told a lie.


Come on people, stop this crusade against bad people as if somehow you have all done nothing wrong in your entire life.
 
Stiletto said:
Polygamous people should have no need for Ashley Madison, considering Ashley Madison's entire theme of deception.

Fuck all the people involved in this site. If they want to off themselves over their own stupid decisions, that's on them. The more habitual liars kill themselves, the better off society will be.
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The majority of users are not married people. It was split down the line between singles and married including those who are homosexuals who were using the site's method of privacy to find other homosexual arrangements. But they're all the same to you so you lumped them into the same boat. When does the stoning start?
 
The suicides are a sad note obviously, but I suspect all the other dating sites are actually less secure.

ALM should have known that they'd be a target. They deserve all the lawsuits and hate coming their way.
 
what if the guilty confess? do they get the 500k, and not have to go to jail? :-D
 
cdr_74_premium said:
I get that. But then what? Behead infidels for that? The partner should know, OK. But this is a gadzillion times different from shouting "he's an adulterous S.O.B.!" to the whole fucking world to hear.
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As I mentioned in a different post, I do not agree with what the hackers did. I think people who cheat deserved to be found out by their spouse, but certainly not by their friends or family of course. It's between them and their partner.

I'm just saying it's not ok for someone to cheat, and we don't even need religion moral virtues to tell us that. It's just a logical thing. I believe it's the act of hiding it that makes it cheating. If all parties agreed to an open relationship, then there's no deceiving and no one has to cheat on anyone.

pothb said:
Uh... what about polygamous people? They marry, and only reason they don't (maybe) in US is because it's illegal to.
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Well anyone who agree to such relationship obviously have no problem if their partner have other partners, and as I said, as long as everyone involved agrees to such arrangement, then there's no cheating.

I think it's a similar situation for same sex marriage. They'll have to have the laws changed to make it legal. And if they wants to fight to have the laws changed similar to what's done for same sex marriage, personally I'm ok with that. No doubt there will be plenty of resistance, but I think it's possible as we saw with same sex marriage.
 
I smell an inside job. Pretty sure the site won't be able to pay the bounty because they're going to be sued to oblivion.
 
"Ashley Madison is offering a $378,000 reward ($500k Canadian) for information that leads to the arrest and conviction of the hackers responsible for that huge data dump. Let the snitching for riches begin! "

- Somebody call Dog the bounty hunter.

# Yo Dawg
 
Look, you guys are right to a certain extent.

I am not some sort of religious nut. I am a comitted atheist, and I ahven't been to church since my parents stop forcing me more than 15 years ago

If you and your significant other (husband, wife, girlfriend, boyfriend, whatever) have some arrangement in which you have an open relationship, swing, are polyamorous, or whatever else, that is your business.

I may think you are some sort of fucked up perverts, but still, it is none of my business.

As soon as there is an unwitting significant other involved. One who believes they are in a monogamous loving relationship, but are in fact being cheated on my "pity for the victim" sensibilities override everything else. I'm not the infidelity police. It is not my place to seek out and expose anyone who does this sort of thing, but if this knowledge somehow falls into my lap when I am minding my own business, I would feel obligated to let the victim know. They deserve to know the truth.

Furthermore, when it comes to arrangements above, they are fine if its freely agreed to by both sides. If you want to ask your wife or girlfriend if they are cool with it, by all means. (You might get a plate thrown at your head, and never be trusted quite the same again, and you would probably deserve it, but still that is your choice).

If - however - there is any coersion or pressuring involved. You know, like, "Either let me pursue other women outside the house, or I am going to run out on you and leave you to raise our three kids alone" or something like that, then you are no better than the person who cheats on their significant other without telling them. You are a fucking terrible person.

When you agreed to be in a relationship, or married someone, unless you have a special arrangement with them, you agreed to be monogamous. If you arent sexually satisfied with this arrangement, to fucking bad. Life isn't about sexual satisfaction. Stop being selfish, man up and be a decent human being.
 
Hornet said:
I think it's a similar situation for same sex marriage. They'll have to have the laws changed to make it legal. And if they wants to fight to have the laws changed similar to what's done for same sex marriage, personally I'm ok with that. No doubt there will be plenty of resistance, but I think it's possible as we saw with same sex marriage.
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The thing about same sex marriage was that by banning it you were discriminating against one class of people. John and Sally can be married but Mike and Steve cant. Polygamous marriages arent legal for anyone, so there is no discrimination taking place.
 
XViper said:
I smell an inside job. Pretty sure the site won't be able to pay the bounty because they're going to be sued to oblivion.
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The thing I dont get is they had every opportunity to protect themselves by just following through with the account deletion process. It's pretty shady to charge people money to erase their accounts, but why on earth would they not do what they were paid for? What benefit is it to them to retain your account details?
 
this conversation is all sorts of goofy. ill make it easy for everyone.

everyone sucks.

everyone.

people who instigated an affair via the website suck for putting their relationships and collateral at risk.
people who had something else to lose by going on that website suck for trusting a random ass private website to guard their valuable information.
the hackers suck for stealing private information.
and we suck too for discussing it the way we are.

there you have it folks. everyone sucks, and so do you.
 
McFry said:
The thing about same sex marriage was that by banning it you were discriminating against one class of people. John and Sally can be married but Mike and Steve cant. Polygamous marriages arent legal for anyone, so there is no discrimination taking place.
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I think it's mostly illegal due to complications in court. Rights to property and assests get quite messy if there's multiple parties. Can you imagine how splitting the assests would go for a 3 person marriage? It'd be nightmarish. Especially, if there were kids in each one.
 
If you wonder why our GOV is so corrupt... The dirt the politicians get extorted by willmake you head spin. They bow down and institute the kidnapper/blackmailers policies which they wish to enact.
 
Zarathustra[H];1041813696 said:
Scientific american may not be the most solid of scientific publications, but it is hell of a lot more reliable than special interest sites whose sole purpose to exist is to try to force their "christian beliefs" on other people by feeding them misinformation.
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The schadenfreude from this excuse making is delicious.
 
Stiletto said:
I totally forgot about the Ashley Madison private email accounts and grocery delivery services. Thanks for reminding me.

Those straws: why do you grasp at them so?
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that is because they are not straws they are facts you know some people like to pretend it would not surprise me if there was a number of single people on there with the aim of just looking around or there to grab a married man or woman or there to pretend they are there to cheat. But that is NONE OF OUR CONCERN this will have numerous external issues such as who is on there and now has egg on their faces and how big of a lawsuit this ends up as and if it is ruled in the favor of the users or the admins if it is in the case of the admins those scumbags get away with shoddy protection of personal data if the users are ruled in favor yea the cheaters will get like 7 bucks in a check but meh.

At least 2 people have committed suicide over this already i feel those family deserve a wrongful death award from ashley madison for the fail that they have achieved.
 
No sane man should be getting married in this day and age anyway.
 
Ashley Madison isn't a website of full of cheaters. It's a website where men went to fantasize about cheating but never actually did so.

How do we know this? Out of the 37 million users, 5.5 million were supposed to be women. Analysis of the hacked data shows that there were only 12,000 real, live women on AM.

Ashley Madison was 99.96% men. That's almost 2600 men for every woman.
 
lol @ ashley madison, where men fueled their cheating fantasies and got nothing else out of the deal. once they had remorse they had to pay to be (partially) removed from their database.

as a company they are done. as a topic, there is nothing more to say. anyone who has their name in the database.... 37 million men vs 12000 women, the ratio is 0.03%. at worst they may have had cheating fantasies. it is nothing but a scam site
 
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