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If you guys haven't seen this DX12 GPU and CPU performance test using the Ashes of the Singularity benchmark yet, I definitely recommend watching the embedded video.
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Looks like AMD has massive driver overhead in DX11... making it no wonder they just abandoned optimization(go figure with their bitching about gameworks) and pushed mantle.
Looks like AMD has massive driver overhead in DX11... making it no wonder they just abandoned optimization(go figure with their bitching about gameworks) and pushed mantle.
Me too. But unfortunately they aren't giving it out to the public. Have to purchase the game first.
you know they abandoned optimization how? We should be complaining about gameworks, AMD doing it and then us turning on them is retarded.
Have no intentions of installing win10, wish they would sell a X12 patch for win7 users
Um the entire point of DX12/Vulkan is to extremely reduce CPU overhead, and they give raw numbers too, you're not going to suddenly pull twice the FPS and then make the statement you just did. It makes zero sense at all.I can't help but laugh at the use cases they've come up with. 980/390x paired with a core i3? All that is gonna benchmark is whose GPU can bang off of the ceiling set by the CPU the hardest.
Man nothing about those results paints AMD in a particularly good light when it comes to the historical side of things. Their DX11 overhead is catastrophically bad and the Vishera CPU's are still loosing out to an i3. DX12 is something of a god send for them, those results are damn impressive.
All that noise that Nvidia made with their big DX11 overhead enhancements they introduced April last year clearly wasn't just marketing spin if this data is any sort of indication.
Worth noting Nvidia has modified their DX11 quite heavily. Forget what it's called but they have their own version of a Mantle esque thing that runs as a in place for Dx11. It was their response it to...it was whenever they had that "massive DX11 performance boost" driver way back when. If someone can remember the name of that feature that'd be great.
Worth noting Nvidia has modified their DX11 quite heavily. Forget what it's called but they have their own version of a Mantle esque thing that runs as a in place for Dx11. It was their response it to...it was whenever they had that "massive DX11 performance boost" driver way back when. If someone can remember the name of that feature that'd be great.
Man nothing about those results paints AMD in a particularly good light when it comes to the historical side of things. Their DX11 overhead is catastrophically bad and the Vishera CPU's are still loosing out to an i3. DX12 is something of a god send for them, those results are damn impressive.
All that noise that Nvidia made with their big DX11 overhead enhancements they introduced April last year clearly wasn't just marketing spin if this data is any sort of indication.
Have no intentions of installing win10, wish they would sell a X12 patch for win7 users
Look at reviews with actual DX11 games comparing the 980 and 390X. There is no nVidia driver advantage. The two cards trade blows. AMD's DX11 drivers are fine. They just obviously haven't optimized their DX11 drivers for this test. I would worry about it if you own an AMD card that's pre GCN once the game debuts. By then though I think anyone on a 5000/6000 series GPU will want to upgrade to play this game anyway.
Um the entire point of DX12/Vulkan is to extremely reduce CPU overhead, and they give raw numbers too, you're not going to suddenly pull twice the FPS and then make the statement you just did. It makes zero sense at all.
Worth noting Nvidia has modified their DX11 quite heavily. Forget what it's called but they have their own version of a Mantle esque thing that runs as a in place for Dx11. It was their response it to...it was whenever they had that "massive DX11 performance boost" driver way back when. If someone can remember the name of that feature that'd be great.
Also, what exactly did AMD do? What is this "it" you talk about. Is the "it" poorly optimized drivers? Or is "it" mantle? If "it" is mantle you are mistaken about AMD and DX12. There is this propaganda machine running as if they forced MS's hand, but mantle adaptation was so poor without AMD enticing devs to do so MS had no fire under their ass to make a low level API. This was all for the devs, and hopefully it will trickle down to the users...
Look at reviews with actual DX11 games comparing the 980 and 390X. There is no nVidia driver advantage. The two cards trade blows. AMD's DX11 drivers are fine. They just obviously haven't optimized their DX11 drivers for this test. I would worry about it if you own an AMD card that's pre GCN once the game debuts. By then though I think anyone on a 5000/6000 series GPU will want to upgrade to play this game anyway.
Have no intentions of installing win10, wish they would sell a X12 patch for win7 users
Look at reviews with actual DX11 games comparing the 980 and 390X. There is no nVidia driver advantage. The two cards trade blows. AMD's DX11 drivers are fine. They just obviously haven't optimized their DX11 drivers for this test. I would worry about it if you own an AMD card that's pre GCN once the game debuts. By then though I think anyone on a 5000/6000 series GPU will want to upgrade to play this game anyway.
Very interesting. I hadn't realized until this video that there could be unique DX11 performance issues for AMD cards. I guess time will tell as a number of games come out that work on both DX11 and 12.
Looks like if you want to play future DX12 games you should buy AMD but if you want to stick to playing older stuff just get nVidia.
Indeed. One game that is basically a tech demo at this point doesn't say anything about what actual performance will look like across the hardware. However, I think this situation is a good kick in the ass for NVIDIA. Hopefully this will cause them to step up their game again after getting too comfortable in their seat of market dominance, while at the same time fostering competition again that will be good for everybody.ok that is funny
None of this matters until we have a released playable game that uses DX12 then both companies will hopefully do everything they can to beat each other.
Competition is good!
Indeed. One game that is basically a tech demo at this point doesn't say anything about what actual performance will look like across the hardware. However, I think this situation is a good kick in the ass for NVIDIA. Hopefully this will cause them to step up their game again after getting too comfortable in their seat of market dominance, while at the same time fostering competition again that will be good for everybody.
I think it is funny how AMD owners have responded to this canned tech demo.