MSI Launches The GTX 980 Ti GAMING 6G

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Pascal will eat witcher 3 alive while staying at a nice 65c . I cant wait until more info is leaked on this card , especially the power draw should be lower..

My 980Ti eats witcher 3 alive while staying under 65C w/my setup. I game on 1080p, which you say is pointless for a 980Ti, however I have a 120Hz monitor, and Witcher 3 generally stays right at 120Fps, so, match made in heaven I say. Oh, I also got a big boost in overclock when I switched to G10, have fun waiting for Pascal!
 
For emulation i.e. dolphin ,epsxe on haswell there is slight improvement with fps over a i5 with no HT. Also your windows experience will be more fluid . Same can be said for haswell vs skylake which is one of the main reasons i might upgrade to skylake. The 2600k to a 6600k will be a huge upgrade in IPC. If i remember correctly my 3770k could not barely run dolphin "wii emulator at full speed until i jumped into a haswell i7 at 4.8.

Regarding my argument the 980ti is a ok card versus the previous MSI 980 when overclocked, 1500/1920. I benched both setups 980ti SLI vs 980s overclocked and the 980ti SLI setup would have cost me 600.00 more to upgrade after selling off my 980s. To me i just did not get that wow experience. It just wasnt a good speed bump now unless you are running 4k then yah you should buy it because it will be a dam long time before something comes out that can run 4k at decent fps. Also lets take a look at the most powerful games i.e GTA V, Metal Gear V, Project cars, Arkham night, witcher 3 ,etc etc etc
a single 980 ti will be 15-20% slower than a SLI 980 stock setup.
Precisely my points.
I dont need 980 SLI and paying over 5x more for SLI than it cost me to get a ti (£600 vs £110) makes no sense.

Another factor for my justification for my argument is if you read my previous posts, the 980 ti is HOT at idle HOT at load . On top of that the card never dissipated heat off the heat sink effectively cooling back to idle temps of 45-49c. If you read previous threads on this forum everyone is talking about how can one cool these cards with after market fans on the side of the case or spending another 100+ dollars on a watercooling kit and not getting any better overclocks, personally i think this a big waste of money.
Unfortunate for you.
My 980ti uses no fan at idle and is only 10C above ambient.
At 21C ambient, it idles at 31C.
When left with its extremely silent fan profile, it reaches just over 70C under a benchmark load (less when gaming).
When clocked hard it gets to around 78C under a benchmark load with a slightly stronger fan profile but still not loud, most of the time it is well under.

Im sure 980 ti SLI cards can be justified for extreme gamers,tripple monitor setup running full res 7680x1440 or a single 4k gaming which will especially blow the older 980s out of the water in SLI. Again for my needs 2560x1440 for me its not worth it and wont be until pascal arrives in 6-7 months. So If you own a 970 a 980ti would be nice bump in speed right now they should upgrade even at 1080p. Again games have not matured for dx 12, skylake motherboards in the future maybe 3-4 months from now will be using faster DDR speeds etc etc and possibly stepping improvements
If I was talking about SLI, there might be reason to put it in an answer to me.
But I'm not, except to say I'm not using it.

I made a decision to wait until skylake/motherboards matures/software etc and pascal is released in 6 months. I should have a 30-50% bump in overall computing power with less power usage when Pascal and possibly better overclocks for the skylake IPC arrive at the same time. I just dont think right now is a smart move to upgrade for someone who owns haswell 4790k at 4.8 or a 980 SLI setup.
I'm glad for you but this is a discussion for somebody else, not me.

Personally I put my money towards a XB270HU IPS 144hz gsync and love it and got the wow factor i was looking for when gaming, reminds me when i owned a CRT except for the shitty black levels.
When gaming at 144hz on my 980s they are quieter , ALOT less heat and immediately go back to a cool 43c. Meanwhile the MSI 980ti's were hot and loud and me having a kraken x61 on the cpu and 2 couger 120mm on the 240mm rad it was like my cars heater on full blast venting out of the top of my corsair 760t case. Not to mention i have 2 intake cougers 120mm to cool 9 hard drives and one couger 120mm exhaust. My computer is very quiet at idle with my 980s. The 980 ti in SLI they love to ramp up especially when vsync is off and hopefully this will be fixed with nvidia next iteration with a completely new architecture and i am pretty positive Pascal will solve any cooling issues and be alot more power friendly than the 980ti. Also the current Ti reminds me when i owned a 780 lightning and the 780 ti were out , my 780 lightning with custom bios would keep up or slightly beat a stock 780 ti. There was no reason to buy it and upgrade so i skipped it altogether and glad i did because the 980 was a whole lot better.
Again, unfortunate for you.
Nothing like my experience.

So unless you are 4k or upgrading your 970s the 980ti is a waste of cash . I forgot to mention all my games on steam 1k of them run at 60fps or more the other 2% is either bad programming or is a SLI game where my single 980 will struggle. My 980s in SLI will beat a single 980ti by 15-20 fps average and max fps at 2560x1440. So again that 600.00 to upgrade i was talking about earlier would have been a waste of cash. Now I would have been more interested in the 980ti either when the 980 ti lightning ever does come to the market or a MUCH better cooling solution comes for non reference 980ti cards. Personally i think nvidia should have just released this card as a titan with 6gb of ram for 679.00 with a good non reference cooler would have me more interested as well.


http://www.geforce.com/games-applications/technology/sli

All my games run at 60fps with a single 980ti, this isnt your exclusive.
I dont need 980 SLI, the huge extra cost, a newer PSU, the extra heat, the loss in performance in some games...
The 980ti does everthing I want, I've not been happier with a card.
 
I made a decision to wait until skylake/motherboards matures/software etc and pascal is released in 6 months. I should have a 30-50% bump in overall computing power with less power usage when Pascal and possibly better overclocks for the skylake IPC arrive at the same time. I just dont think right now is a smart move to upgrade for someone who owns haswell 4790k at 4.8 or a 980 SLI setup.

You're up for disappointment then. Reviews for Skylake seem to indicate that for gaming purposes it's not really any faster than Ivy Bridge or Haswell. For CPU bound situations like emulation you might see better gains. The biggest improvements in Skylake are better integrated GPU and power efficiency rather than big performance boosts.

Likewise believing Nvidia's cherry-picked press crap about Pascal isn't doing you any favors. Any "10x improvement" is going to happen most likely in very specific situations and none of those are gaming. With the first Pascal cards you're more likely looking at slightly faster versions of 970 and 980 with only 4 GB VRAM since HBM2 is out only Q2 2016. Aside from having my 980 Ti resale value plummet I do hope they can make Pascal as fast while keeping the heat down. Late 2016 or in 2017 we should see cards that are a bigger upgrade over the 980 Ti.

While I do agree that upgrading from 4790 and 980 SLI to 980 Ti is definitely not worth it, most likely neither will Skylake and 1080 SLI (or whatever the card is called).
 
My 980Ti eats witcher 3 alive while staying under 65C w/my setup. I game on 1080p, which you say is pointless for a 980Ti, however I have a 120Hz monitor, and Witcher 3 generally stays right at 120Fps, so, match made in heaven I say. Oh, I also got a big boost in overclock when I switched to G10, have fun waiting for Pascal!

Thats great 1080p is so 2007
but thanks for justifying your purchase


Precisely my points.
I dont need 980 SLI and paying over 5x more for SLI than it cost me to get a ti (£600 vs £110) makes no sense.

I agree but SLI 980 is still faster especially when overclocked


Unfortunate for you. My 980ti uses no fan at idle and is only 10C above ambient.
At 21C ambient, it idles at 31C. When left with its extremely silent fan profile, it reaches just over 70C under a benchmark load (less when gaming).
When clocked hard it gets to around 78C under a benchmark load with a slightly stronger fan profile but still not loud, most of the time it is well under.

Not unfortunate for me because those 980 ti's went back and oh it felt so good to put my 980 SLI back in and get my $1,358.00 back.. Kinda like me buying a car that always overheated and acted like a lemon



If I was talking about SLI, there might be reason to put it in an answer to me.
But I'm not, except to say I'm not using it.

Again 980 overclocked SLI is still faster than a single 980 Ti and cooler at idle and load.


I'm glad for you but this is a discussion for somebody else, not me.

yep but it would seem the majority of the users /owners of the MSI 980 Ti have had the same issues as me on this forum. Basically talking about crappy ASIC score, overheat, poor overclocker, hot hot hot and idle hot, aftermarket cooling etc etc etc......


Again, unfortunate for you.
Nothing like my experience.

Again not unfortunate for me your stuck with a overpriced hot load of crap. Did you see the picture of the MSI 980 ti that has melted yet on this forum. Let me know i will send you the link..

All my games run at 60fps with a single 980ti, this isnt your exclusive.
I dont need 980 SLI, the huge extra cost, a newer PSU, the extra heat, the loss in performance in some games...
The 980ti does everthing I want, I've not been happier with a card.

All my games run 60fps on my card as well and i saved 679.00. Thats great i wouldnt be too proud of your purchase when Pascal arrives. Me on the other hand will be running 2x PASCAL the next go around . Big bump in speed whoa! 6-7 months from now the real next gen nvidia card will be out. I wont be so sad selling my cool /fast 980s then.

You're up for disappointment then. Reviews for Skylake seem to indicate that for gaming purposes it's not really any faster than Ivy Bridge or Haswell. For CPU bound situations like emulation you might see better gains. The biggest improvements in Skylake are better integrated GPU and power efficiency rather than big performance boosts.


True but as i mentioned in my thread i explained a nice 10% bump in speed after i sell my gear "see sig" should cost no more than 200.00 to upgrade.. Sounds alot better than selling my GTX 980s SLI and taking a 400 dollar hit for a few extra FPS. Plus DX 12 / future game support , better overall windows productivity. Yeah emulation with Skylake is a huge increase in dolphin and other known emulators. Personally i am going to wait until Pascal arrives to jump over to skylake. 6 months from now we will see better steppings , better mobos etc.... Will have to see what the maximus VIII has to offer.



Likewise believing Nvidia's cherry-picked press crap about Pascal isn't doing you any favors. Any "10x improvement" is going to happen most likely in very specific situations and none of those are gaming. With the first Pascal cards you're more likely looking at slightly faster versions of 970 and 980 with only 4 GB VRAM since HBM2 is out only Q2 2016. Aside from having my 980 Ti resale value plummet I do hope they can make Pascal as fast while keeping the heat down. Late 2016 or in 2017 we should see cards that are a bigger upgrade over the 980 Ti.

While I do agree that upgrading from 4790 and 980 SLI to 980 Ti is definitely not worth it, most likely neither will Skylake and 1080 SLI (or whatever the card is called).

I highly doubt it in fact in 6 months we might see 24gb video cards and Pascal will excel in 2560x1440 ,120-144fps/hz and probably see for the first time 4k running most games at 60fps on a single card. Tried out the 980 ti and loves to ramp up at 144 fps/hz fans blow serious hot air etc. Cant wait for an improvement and DX 12 games will be incredible


"The upcoming PK100 and PK104 graphics processing units will not only feature major architectural innovations, but they will also be made using either 14nm or 16nm manufacturing technology with fin-shaped field-effect transistors (FinFETs). “Pascal” GPUs will be the first graphics chips from Nvidia to be made using an all-new process technology since “Kepler” in 2012. Finer fabrication process is something that should permit Nvidia engineers to considerably increase the number of stream processors and other units inside the company’s future GPUs, dramatically increasing their performance.

"In addition, next-generation graphics processing units from Nvidia will support second-generation stacked high-bandwidth memory (HBM2). The HBM2 will let Nvidia and its partners build graphics cards with up to 32GB of onboard memory and 820GB/s – 1TB/s bandwidth. Performance of such graphics adapters in ultra-high-definition (UHD) resolutions like 4K (3840*2160, 4096*2160) and 5K (5120*2880) should be extremely high".

http://www.kitguru.net/components/g...about-future-pascal-products-in-the-pipeline/
 
I agree but SLI 980 is still faster especially when overclocked
Good for you, irrelevant for me.
I have exactly what I want.

Not unfortunate for me because those 980 ti's went back and oh it felt so good to put my 980 SLI back in and get my $1,358.00 back.. Kinda like me buying a car that always overheated and acted like a lemon
Unfortunate for you that you made a bad decision and are now trying to pass your brain ache on.
Your situation doesnt affect me one bit.

Again 980 overclocked SLI is still faster than a single 980 Ti and cooler at idle and load.
I told you the contrary and you still bs. You lack experience and are wrong.
I had the 980 with the best air cooler available and my idle temps were higher than my ti.
And when I clocked it as high as it would go to try and get enough performance, it ran much hotter and was quite loud.
My ti is a lot faster and a lot quieter doing it.
Your problem is you made a bad choice for your situation and had to backtrack. Now you want to ball ache everyone for not doing the same as you.
I'm sad that you have such a closed mind.
I made a great choice, everything I want :)

yep but it would seem the majority of the users /owners of the MSI 980 Ti have had the same issues as me on this forum. Basically talking about crappy ASIC score, overheat, poor overclocker, hot hot hot and idle hot, aftermarket cooling etc etc etc......
Nothing to do with me, not even slightly.
You know today, I gave the house a good spring clean and found some darts I thought were lost. It felt really good to sit down in the sun, have a coffee and listen to some music.
Quite a pleasant day.

Again not unfortunate for me your stuck with a overpriced hot load of crap. Did you see the picture of the MSI 980 ti that has melted yet on this forum. Let me know i will send you the link..
Again you are wrong, see above. I paid a lot less than you and get great performance in everything. You have to cope with SLI issues, I am single card :p
And again irrelevant for me as I bought a great card not your MSI.
I dont care that you bought a card that might melt, I didnt.

All my games run 60fps on my card as well and i saved 679.00. Thats great i wouldnt be too proud of your purchase when Pascal arrives. Me on the other hand will be running 2x PASCAL the next go around . Big bump in speed whoa! 6-7 months from now the real next gen nvidia card will be out. I wont be so sad selling my cool /fast 980s then.
Its like running round inside a barrel and trying to get somewhere.
You spent far more than me lol. I have no need to spend that much or suffer the issues you will have when I have exactly what I want.
I saved far more than you by not doing what you have :)

I dont care what you will do in the future.
When you buy new hardware nobody else can. Strange world you are in.
Be sure to tell everyone when you sell your old cards, its thrilling.
 
Yes I am going to ball out now. Unsubscribed
P.s. my experience is more than all you combined
 
Seems a bit of trolling recently in this thread. Let's bring it back! I got my Gaming 6G in a few days ago! I managed to get a 1516MHz or +175 oc on stock voltage so far. I did some quick benchmarks in 3DMark and Heaven for stability, but I will be trying some more benches to make sure it's actually stable as I do see the powerlimit chart shifting up and down in AfterBurner, so I may have to dial it down a bit. I'm also going to oc the memory a bit. I'm hoping to stay above 1500 on stock voltage, but it is getting quite warm at 86C... anyone else seeing these temps on their oc?
 
Seems a bit of trolling recently in this thread. Let's bring it back! I got my Gaming 6G in a few days ago! I managed to get a 1516MHz or +175 oc on stock voltage so far. I did some quick benchmarks in 3DMark and Heaven for stability, but I will be trying some more benches to make sure it's actually stable as I do see the powerlimit chart shifting up and down in AfterBurner, so I may have to dial it down a bit. I'm also going to oc the memory a bit. I'm hoping to stay above 1500 on stock voltage, but it is getting quite warm at 86C... anyone else seeing these temps on their oc?


Yep, thats normal on this cooler, you will need to crank the fans up to get it lower and have good case temps. The 6G is known for being the quiet model of the 980TI's, not the coolest running. Your ASIC but be real damn high to achieve that clock on stock voltage. I'm wondering how much your throttling back as the threshold stock is 83c so I bet your 1516mhz is going down quite a bit
 
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Yep, thats normal on this cooler, you will need to crank the fans up to get it lower and have good case temps. The 6G is known for being the quiet model of the 980TI's, not the coolest running. Your ASIC but be real damn high to achieve that clock on stock voltage. I'm wondering how much your throttling back as the threshold stock is 83c so I bet your 1516mhz is going down quite a bit

Actually I put it at 109% power limit linking it to 91C, so I did not have any thermal throttling. ASIC is 75.2%. Not good, but not bad either. Basically perfectly in the middle of the pack.
 
ASIC is 75.2%. Not good, but not bad either. Basically perfectly in the middle of the pack.


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ASIC is 75.2%. Not good, but not bad either. Basically perfectly in the middle of the pack.

:D Mine is 63.5%, so pretty much at the bottom of the pack. At +175 I used to get 1479MHz on stock voltage. Anything closer to 1500MHz used to artifact while benching. Now with the G10+H75 and no thermal limitations +175 and +43mV takes the card to 1516MHz which I'm totally happy with.

To be honest I don't really care for the extra OC headroom AIO cooling has given me, I'm much more happy to have my whole card running much cooler. It's nice to touch the backplate and feel warm spots, with the stock cooler at 75-79c I could hardly keep my hand on the backplate. I hardly ever run more than +100 when gaming as I'm at 1080p but sometimes use Ultra HD DSR.
 
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:D Mine is 63.5%, so pretty much at the bottom of the pack. At +175 I used to get 1479MHz on stock voltage. Anything closer to 1500MHz used to artifact while benching.


Thats surprising considering mine is 63.7% and I had to up the voltage to 1.218v to get a stable 1450 on core.
 
My 63% ASIC card wouldn't do 1440 on the core stable with 1.23 volts. Am also surprised to hear 1500 stable in games. It maybe fine for a 3dmark run (which my card could also do at 1480) but once Witcher 3 was launched, instant TDR.
 
My 63% ASIC card wouldn't do 1440 on the core stable with 1.23 volts. Am also surprised to hear 1500 stable in games. It maybe fine for a 3dmark run (which my card could also do at 1480) but once Witcher 3 was launched, instant TDR.

My cards have 73%~and 75%~ asic score and can play The Witcher 3 at 1500mhz, if I try to increase further Geralds head starts to blink :eek:

Adjusting voltage has no effect..
 
Yes, now I have 2 classifieds at 70.3% and 72.9% ASIC scores and they run 1506/8200 without any additional volts (just stock volts of 1.212). Can do 1518/8200 for benching but don't use it for daily.
 
My 63% ASIC card wouldn't do 1440 on the core stable with 1.23 volts. Am also surprised to hear 1500 stable in games. It maybe fine for a 3dmark run (which my card could also do at 1480) but once Witcher 3 was launched, instant TDR.

I have two 6G's, one does 1486MHz, the other does 1515MHz, both 100% stable in all games and apps. Witcher 3 is a tough test and will usually expose a poor overclock pretty quickly, so will Assetto Corsa and Project Cars.
 
I have two 6G's, one does 1486MHz, the other does 1515MHz, both 100% stable in all games and apps. Witcher 3 is a tough test and will usually expose a poor overclock pretty quickly, so will Assetto Corsa and Project Cars.
Unless you modded the BIOS there is no way you stay at 1515 or even 1486 in all games unless you are playing at 1080.
 
Unless you modded the BIOS there is no way you stay at 1515 or even 1486 in all games unless you are playing at 1080.

Stock BIOS, I play at 2560x1600 on a Dell 3011 30". Yes, way.

The one that runs at 1515 will throttle down to 1502 in very intense games but it will fluctuate back between 1515 and 1502, I can live with that.
 
Stock BIOS, I play at 2560x1600 on a Dell 3011 30". Yes, way.

The one that runs at 1515 will throttle down to 1502 in very intense games but it will fluctuate back between 1515 and 1502, I can live with that.
I see parts of some games that cant even stay above 1420 but most will maintain 1440-1450 without throttling. You have a magical card if it can maintain 1500 under full gpu usage uncapped.
 
Gotta say, love this card. Idles with minimal core on the latest drivers even with my absurd triple monitor setup.

Then when I need it, it hits well over 1400 during gaming and I never hear it.

Nice to have a single-card solution again.
 
i'm new to overclocking. I have the LITE edition of this card with a 74.2% ASIC score. I messed around with Afterburner last night and got the overclock +200 with no issues. I see that some people here are overclocking +500 (core clock) without issues.

I'm wondering, how much does memory overclocking matter? For the people running the core at 1500, what do you oc the memory to?
 
I see parts of some games that cant even stay above 1420 but most will maintain 1440-1450 without throttling. You have a magical card if it can maintain 1500 under full gpu usage uncapped.
what temperatures are you getting ? cards shouldn't throttle unless they pass 82ºc
 
All 980 Ti default bios cards throttle post 65 C temperatures.
No, Kaori had it right, throttling (dropping below base-clock) doesn't happen until 82c.

What you're seeing at 65c is simply Boost 2.0 dropping a clockspeed bin due to temperature.

Basically, we're arguing over terms. Many people don't consider "boost scaling" to be the same thing as "throttling".
 
No, Kaori had it right, throttling (dropping below base-clock) doesn't happen until 82c.

What you're seeing at 65c is simply Boost 2.0 dropping a clockspeed bin due to temperature.

Basically, we're arguing over terms. Many people don't consider "boost scaling" to be the same thing as "throttling".
So you have your own interpretation of what throttling is. To me its when it drops clocks at all which as already just mentioned happens first right before 65 C. And no you dont drop below base clocks when you hit 82 C so not sure where you got that from. When you hit 83 on a 980 Ti, Titan X and 780 Ti, it simply drops one bin which is exactly what it does when you hit 80 on the 980 and most other Maxwell and Kepler cards. If you drop more than one bin then there are other factors than simply just hitting the first real temp throttle.
 
So you have your own interpretation of what throttling is. To me its when it drops clocks at all which as already just mentioned happens first right before 65 C.
But... that's not throttling, it's simply not boosting as high.

And no you dont drop below base clocks when you hit 82 C so not sure where you got that from.
I got that number from the previous poster, who I assumed had done their research.

Looked it up, actual throttle temp is at 92c on a 980 Ti.
 
But... that's not throttling, it's simply not boosting as high.


I got that number from the previous poster, who I assumed had done their research.

Looked it up, actual throttle temp is at 92c on a 980 Ti.
No it is throttling because it is at a certain boost speed and then it drops down when it hits that temp. Again you just have your own definition of what throttling is. Throttling to me is ANY time the clocks have to drop because of temps, power limit or any other reason the card has to back off.

And yeah 92 C is max temp before it will obviously throttle like crazy to not overheat. 92 C will only happen if the fans are broken or you are trying some crazy overclocking in a hot box in Death Valley.
 
With the latest 355.60 WHQL drivers that just got released, I idle at around 42C now. :)
 
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