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I agree, the faster the hardware the less difference it makes. But I do think that 8.1/10 do better on lower end hardware than 7. It would be interesting to see how 7 fares on something like a BayTrail/CloverTrail Atom tablet with 2 GB of RAM but I've never come across any benchmarks.
This is interesting considering many have had improved overall gaming experience going from 7 to 10. What was once choppy and stuttering is now a lot smoother and simply plays better on Windows 10. It is not relevant whether you agree with me because fact is fact.
Zarathustra[H];1041787710 said:I've had the opposite.
I find my SLI has been more stuttery and odd going to Win10, and just doesnt feel the same as it did in 8.1
Probably just teething issues. Too early to tell.
Or they fixed something in 10 and didn't in 7.I'm in the relatively low-end bracket and performance is more or less the same (fps wise) in the few games I play. Everything else I haven't really noticed or cared to look for much difference. BUT!!, GTAV is waaay smoother for me on 10, no more jerkiness, night and day difference, that alone makes it worth it for me (still the same fps though ~50-60). And before the naysayers chime in, yes this is comparing a fresh clean install of 7 to a clean install of 10, same 15.7.1 catalyst on both. So there is at least some small benefit to gaming on 10 in some situations. After all, shit is situational, man.
I'm just waiting for them to re-introduce Aero Glass. The flat theme is just too plain looking for a desktop GUI and far to "bright" with the title bar not taking on the color theme of the taskbar and other things.
IMHO:
Windows 10: Minimal, clean, utilizes HiDPI and font scaling much better than previous versions, faster than Windows 8, but contains illegal code which has always-on invasive privacy issues. Also, developed by millennials who care nothing about privacy, the rights of others, worthless modern apps, and super dumb kids.
Windows 8/8.1: It's ok, not as great as Windows 7, utilizes HiDPI and font scaling ok, also Windows 8 causes a lot of disk thrashing and destroys hard drives. Also, developed by millennials who removed one of the most useful applications within Windows THE START MENU, contains worthless modern apps, removes Hyper-V for processors (ie: Q6600) that support it (unless using enterprise), and super dumb kids.
Windows 7: Perfect, but HiDPI and font scaling needs work.
IMHO:
Windows 10: Minimal, clean, utilizes HiDPI and font scaling much better than previous versions, faster than Windows 8, but contains illegal code which has always-on invasive privacy issues. Also, developed by millennials who care nothing about privacy, the rights of others, worthless modern apps, and super dumb kids.
Windows 8/8.1: It's ok, not as great as Windows 7, utilizes HiDPI and font scaling ok, also Windows 8 causes a lot of disk thrashing and destroys hard drives. Also, developed by millennials who removed one of the most useful applications within Windows THE START MENU, contains worthless modern apps, removes Hyper-V for processors (ie: Q6600) that support it (unless using enterprise), and super dumb kids.
Windows 7: Perfect, but HiDPI and font scaling needs work.
I'm just waiting for them to re-introduce Aero Glass. The flat theme is just too plain looking for a desktop GUI and far to "bright" with the title bar not taking on the color theme of the taskbar and other things.
I figured it might have been a performance reason. But since today's current gen hardware slices through it without issue, they should bring it back.
From what I see there is NO compelling reason to upgrade and WHY in the world did they use a disk bench that wasn't win7 compatible in this shootout?
I see MS once again making the latest DX API a OS upgrade only will turn a lot of people off.
Windows 8 causes a lot of disk thrashing and destroys hard drives.
windows 10 "we gave it away free and people still felt that it wasnt good enough"
i love windows 10 so far, directx12 cant wait!
windows 10 "we gave it away free and people still felt that it wasnt good enough"
i love windows 10 so far, directx12 cant wait!
Well if I already have an OS then the cost to continue using it is also free. Given the upgrade cost of free, then it comes down the the plusses and minuses of each product. That's up to each individual to determine as you may personally value features and changes differently than I do. I personally feel that the telemetry and data mining, plus the forced updates of win 10 detracts enough where I'd rather not upgrade. Dx 12 is currently meaningless as no games use it. A feature that is unused is meaningless in practice. For me I'll stick to win 7.
Yep. Windows 10 is not FREE. You're paying in privacy.
About as expected. Nothing major. A good upgrade, but not for any speed or performance reasons. But, it also shows that an older Windows 7 machine can still benefit and not have any slow down when upgrading to the new OS like some of the older Microsoft OS's and Apple's iOS.
■Intel Core i5-4670K (3.4GHz - 3.8GHz)
■Asrock Z97 Extreme6
■8GB DDR3-2400 RAM
■Nvidia GeForce GTX 980
■Crucial MX200 1TB
■SilverStone Essential Gold 750w
■Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit, Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit, Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor
1 gigabyte (GB) RAM (32-bit) or 2 GB RAM (64-bit)
16 GB available hard disk space (32-bit) or 20 GB (64-bit)
DirectX 9 graphics device with WDDM 1.0 or higher driver
From what I see there is NO compelling reason to upgrade and WHY in the world did they use a disk bench that wasn't win7 compatible in this shootout?
I see MS once again making the latest DX API a OS upgrade only will turn a lot of people off.
dad's old desktop (core 2 amd): about 300% faster in everything. he is amazed. websites load faster than win7 even when it was freshly upgraded
my old laptop i5: seems about the same. diablo 3 stuttering is gone but sometimes the o/s still freezes opening websites.
my xeon desktop: speed wise it is the same. however required driver updates with iobit's driver booster app.
it seems to bring new life into old hardware.
Yep. Windows 10 is not FREE. You're paying in privacy.
I've been running it on a spare PC since launch and had the realization yesterday that the only thing I gained over Windows 8.0 was CTRL-C/CTRL-V copypaste ability in a DOS box. That's it. Pathetic.
I have no privacy anyway, so no loss.
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I recently upgraded to Win10 (from Win7 home premium x64) on my laptop. MS gave me Win10 Pro x64. After the upgrade, I pulled the key and did a fresh install after making the installation media with the Windows 10 download tool from MS.
I5m Ivy Bridge
4GB RAM
240GB Kingston HyperX 3K
Win7 boot time from power-off state to fully loaded session: 35-45 seconds.
Win10 boot time from power-off state to login screen: 5-6 seconds, another 7-10 seconds for fully loaded session after logging in.
Everything just feels snappier and faster with Win10. I get about 30-45 minutes more run time off a full charge. Color me impressed.
You sure thats not Fast Boot? Its a nice feature, if you're charging your battery every day. Just dont leave it on for laptops/systems on batteries that aren't charged regularly. After 1-2 months you'll have a dead battery. I've been testing it in a backup cheapo $230 laptop since late 2013. These days I'd guess it is about 25% of a battery charge per 2-3 weeks.
When it is off, win8 boots no more than 5s faster than win7 in my experience (all depends on the system of course). Usually that is 25-35 seconds. When fast boot is on, it wakes up a laptop/computer in 8-10 seconds vs 10-15 in win7. So like, super faster. So much faster that I really can't tell the difference, certainly not with an ssd.
Win10 and its free upgrade proves the old maxim, you get what you pay for. With all the data tracking, you are the product.
You sure thats not Fast Boot? Its a nice feature, if you're charging your battery every day. Just dont leave it on for laptops/systems on batteries that aren't charged regularly. After 1-2 months you'll have a dead battery. I've been testing it in a backup cheapo $230 laptop since late 2013. These days I'd guess it is about 25% of a battery charge per 2-3 weeks.
When it is off, win8 boots no more than 5s faster than win7 in my experience (all depends on the system of course). Usually that is 25-35 seconds. When fast boot is on, it wakes up a laptop/computer in 8-10 seconds vs 10-15 in win7. So like, super faster. So much faster that I really can't tell the difference, certainly not with an ssd.
Win10 and its free upgrade proves the old maxim, you get what you pay for. With all the data tracking, you are the product.