1366 x58 Xeon Enthusiast overclocks club

Guys,, I was looking at this review

http://www.bjorn3d.com/2015/08/sapphire-nitro-r9-390-8g-ds-review-playing-nitro/

I notice the test setup was Intel Haswell E 5820k 4.4GHz

They got 55.7 fps in Heaven 4.0 for the 390 on that platform..

Ok I got 56 fps in Heaven 4.0 on the 290x New Edition with the Xeon at 3.9Ghz

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v400/crazycrave/Heaven 4.0 290x.png

Also look at the Fire strike score.. mine is Graphics Score12298

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/5570685

So unless real world gaming shows something else then I don't see Haswell E 5820K being notting but a side step.

I'm sure, on some CPU-specific apps, the 5820 is a few steps ahead.
But, realistically, you're mostly correct. Outside of benchmarks that actually quantify the difference, you aren't going to notice a damn thing.
 
nbuubu.. look at the bottom left corner of your board as it shows the rev number there. now to do the mod you would need to send it back to EVGA and let them do it as I heard it cost like $60buxs but I also heard they may do it for free.

I got into X58 very late (i7-930) and bought my board March 2010 and it was a rev 2.0 board and no mod needed..
 
I would love to get some more life out of my x58 board, but it seems my mobo's bios needs a microcode update in order accept an 56xx chip. Can anyone point me in the right direction for modding my bios?

Try over at bios-mods.com.
 
Alright - joining the club now. Just picked up an x5670 to replace my i7 930, an extra 6gb ram (12gb total, should be good enough as I do not multitask), and a Zotac 980 Ti amp extreme to replace my ancient SLI GTX 470 hairdryers. Can't wait to start playing through my backlog of games that I can't run at all currently :)
 
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nbuubu.. look at the bottom left corner of your board as it shows the rev number there. now to do the mod you would need to send it back to EVGA and let them do it as I heard it cost like $60buxs but I also heard they may do it for free.

I got into X58 very late (i7-930) and bought my board March 2010 and it was a rev 2.0 board and no mod needed..

Thanks. I just checked and I'm at a REV: 1.0. So pretty sure I'd need to do that mod.

System is so old and getting a bit unstable with random blue screens (been backing off my OC over the years), I'm likely just going to get Skylake.
 
You may want to crack that antec open and make sure the caps are in good condition....thats a lot of years for a supply...but it does sound like you got a great price. The reason your unable to find the thread is you have to make sure to change the filter to show all threads for say 2 weeks instead of 2 days and it won't disappear near as fast...just a funny way they set the forum to default to

I honestly never thought about checking the psu its been running so long without issue. I will defenetly take a look, see if any caps look bad.

Thanks for the advice:)
 
Curious if anyone here has upgraded to Win 10 yet and if there have been any issues associated with X58 or is it smooth sailing? Hopefully I'll be upgrading this weekend.
 
Curious if anyone here has upgraded to Win 10 yet and if there have been any issues associated with X58 or is it smooth sailing?

No problems so far, coming from Win 7... Other than stupid and ugly tile ui/design works just fine. Games run fantastic too.
 
Hi guys,

I wonder if you ever encountered a similar problem overclocking the 1366 Xeons.

Basically, whenever i raise the BCLK in BIOS, the bootup fails pretty spectacularly.

By that I mean the CMOS reset does not make the computer boot up again (either by button, by jumper or battery removal). There is no boot, the board gets stuck with errorcode 8. The only way I found to get the computer to boot up again is to physically remove the X5670 and replace it with my old i7 920 - then the computer boots right into cmos defaults and I can put the Xeon back, and it works fine with stock speeds.

I took all (I think) necessary precautions: lowest uncore, lowest QPI, lowest DDR settings, no turbo C-states and speedstep etc. Raised the CPU voltage to around 1,35V.

BUT...

Using the colorful ;) ASrock OC tuner utility in Windows i WAS able to raise the BCLK to 166MHz without problems (lowering uncore/qpi in BIOS) by raising the voltage in the software, upping the count to around 3,9GHz.

Why, on raising the BCLK, does the computer fail to boot and refuses to come back to life even after CMOS reset? And then, why does the OC Tuner utility work in Windows in spite of that?

I would really appreciate any insight you guys could offer.

I really love the X58 platform, because it ages so slowly and even the old i7 920 keeps up pretty well @4GHz. The Xeon would be so much better though :)

My full setup is:
CPU: X5670
Cooling: Prolimatech Super Mega
Mobo: Asrock X58 Extreme (the first one)
PSU: XFX Core 750 Pro
GPU: 590GTX
RAM: Kingston HyperX 4x2GB 1333MHz
 
It could be when raising your BCLK that your memory is clocking too high. That will cause your machine to crash and burn, hahahaha.

You also need to look at your voltages that you are using. Have you read up on the process of overclocking?
 
It could be when raising your BCLK that your memory is clocking too high. That will cause your machine to crash and burn, hahahaha.

You also need to look at your voltages that you are using. Have you read up on the process of overclocking?

Yeah i've lowered the ddr multiplier as low as possible, so the memory is below 1000MHz I think.

Well I've only raised the Vcore ahd vram (just in case to 1,65v) the other voltages seem to have little effect on stability.
 
I have an x58 Extreme (not the 3 or 6, the original). I didn't have much trouble overclocking it. The same CPU lost about 150mhz at the same voltage compared to my P6T Deluxe v2, but it is stable (4.1ghz).

The first thing you'll want to do is set all voltages to manual and disable spread spectrum, then work your way up from there. Make sure your uncore is under ~3200mhz and keep your QPI as low as possible.

I'll try to get some captures of my bios settings when I get a chance.
 
I would really appreciate that. Thx.

Here you go:
http://imgur.com/a/G5Lss

I never could get the offset voltage to work right. The voltage would be correct in Windows but it would crash as soon as I put a load on it.
Also the 21 multiplier is not stable for whatever reason, even at 4ghz. So for me it was either 20x or 22x, and since this board has huge increments for the VTT voltage I went with the latter to keep the BCLK at more reasonable speeds.
 
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Here you go:
http://imgur.com/a/G5Lss

I never could get the offset voltage to work right. The voltage would be correct in Windows but it would crash as soon as I put a load on it.
Also the 21 multiplier is not stable for whatever reason, even at 4ghz. So for me it was either 20x or 22x, and since this board has huge increments for the VTT voltage I went with the latter to keep the BCLK at more reasonable speeds.

Thank you so much! I'm gonna try this as soon as I can.
 
Thank you so much! I'm gonna try this as soon as I can.

No problem. Also note that my ram is 1.65v, so make sure to set that to whatever your ram is rated at, then set all of the other voltages to Normal, excluding your VCORE of course as you are overclocking, VTT should be fine at 1.2 unless you are going past ~180bclk.

Also, have you ever gotten the auto cpu fan speed to work? For me it pretty much just stays at the same speed no matter how I set it..
 
Also, have you ever gotten the auto cpu fan speed to work? For me it pretty much just stays at the same speed no matter how I set it..
To tell you the truth, I always leave it on full speed. With the GTX590 in the background, the CPU fan noise was never really a factor. Will try auto though and see what happens.
 
To tell you the truth, I always leave it on full speed. With the GTX590 in the background, the CPU fan noise was never really a factor. Will try auto though and see what happens.

It wouldn't be much of an issue if this raijintek cooler had a decent fan, it hardly pushes any air and it's loud.. At least the cooler itself does a good job. I'll probably just slap a nice Noctua on there and let it run full speed.
 
I'm looking at upgrading my i7 930@4GHz to either an x5650 or an x5670. I'm leaning towards the x5670 simply for it's higher speed, however thought I'd ask here if there is any preference when it comes to overclocking?

Also would either bottleneck a 980 Ti at 1440p (e.g. in BF4 64 player online)?
 
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I'm looking at upgrading my i7 930@4GHz to either an x5650 or an x5670. I'm leaning towards the x5670 simply for it's higher speed, however thought I'd ask here if there is any preference when it comes to overclocking?

Also would either bottleneck a 980 Ti at 1440p (e.g. in BF4 64 player online)?

Considering lower blck is always easier to achieve overclocking wise i would try for the 5670 or better if the price is right. At least with 5670 all you need is 191blck for easy 4.2ghz. As far as bottlenecks i have not experienced or heard of any yet. Speaking of which the only game i have tried that even halfway challenged this cpu was battlefront alpha
 
I like the x5660 myself, it gives me the 23 multiplier and seems to overclock well.
Seems like the odd work better than the even on my boards. I could not get 22 x stable no how.
Would not mind a x5675 for the 25 multiplier.
 
Does anybody have any experience with 3x8GB Kingston HyperX FURY RAM with the X58A-UD3R?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/HyperX-FURY...e=UTF8&qid=1439240537&sr=1-11&keywords=HyperX

I'm wondering if the board will hold up if overclocking a x5670 as far as I can with this much RAM. Would I be better off with 3x4GB (disregarding price and if I'd actually make use of the extra RAM) or even 4x4GB (if dual channel doesn't make too much of difference vs triple channel)?

I was also thinking about buying another set of 6x2GB to match my current set for a total of 12GB, however can't find them around anywhere.

I would be using this for a mix of gaming, large source compilations and virtual machines.
 
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An interesting question, somewhat related to the above - I've just re-purchased a second 3x2gb kit of the exact same model number, however the mfg dates are 5 years apart. The new kit appears to have a slightly different timing table, and is reporting itself as being rated for a different speed? Here's what I see in CPU-Z

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I had some serious issues getting the system to post after I added the second kit, and it fixed itself after many reboots. Seeing some instability and hard locks now, but I need to re-do everything when I get the x5670 from the post office tomorrow.
 
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An interesting question, somewhat related to the above - I've just re-purchased a second 3x2gb kit of the exact same model number, however the mfg dates are 5 years apart. The new kit appears to have a slightly different timing table, and is reporting itself as being rated for a different speed? Here's what I see in CPU-Z

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OLD:
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I had some serious issues getting the system to post after I added the second kit, and it fixed itself after many reboots. Seeing some instability and hard locks now, but I need to re-do everything when I get the x5670 from the post office tomorrow.

I have had some issues when running a 2nd 3x2gb in the various x58 boards I've owned. Your best bet for stability is to increase your QPI/VTT voltage if you haven't done so already, and then loosen your timings if needed.
 
Does anybody have any experience with 3x8GB Kingston HyperX FURY RAM with the X58A-UD3R?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/HyperX-FURY...e=UTF8&qid=1439240537&sr=1-11&keywords=HyperX

I'm wondering if the board will hold up if overclocking a x5670 as far as I can with this much RAM. Would I be better off with 3x4GB (disregarding price and if I'd actually make use of the extra RAM) or even 4x4GB (if dual channel doesn't make too much of difference vs triple channel)?

I was also thinking about buying another set of 6x2GB to match my current set for a total of 12GB, however can't find them around anywhere.

I would be using this for a mix of gaming, large source compilations and virtual machines.

I'm in the exact same boat. Running an x5675 with 12GB on a Foxconn Bloodrage GTI which only has 3 slots. I STRONGLY suspect all of these x58 boards can handle 8GB modules (overclocking and all) and they simple aren't officially "supported" is because there were no 8GB modules at the time. Other boards have handled 24/48GB just fine, so it's not out of the question, but I understand your concern.

If you do try it, please reply back and let us know how it went. I may follow suit pretty soon.
 
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I'm in the exact same boat. Running an x5675 with 12GB on a Foxconn Bloodrage GTI which only has 3 slots. I STRONGLY suspect all of these x58 boards can handle 8GB modules (overclocking and all) and they simple aren't officially "supported" is because there were no 8GB modules at the time. Other boards have handled 24/48GB just fine, so it's not out of the question, but I understand your concern.

If you do try it, please reply back and let us know how it went. I may follow suit pretty soon.

I'm running a pair of 8GB sticks with no issues.
 
Excellent, thanks for the responses guys. I want to shy away from expanding my current 3x2GB kit and using 6 sticks so I'll buy 3x8GB and will report back on how it goes when I set everything up.
 
Just picked up a w3670 for $85, the batch looks pretty good, not too far off from my rather good x5670 (4.4ghz at 1.325v). I know the TDP is a bit higher, but I believe Intel just bumps up the rating when the stock clockspeed is higher (like the x5680, etc), in reality these CPU's are going to draw much more than 130w at 4ghz+ anyway.

I did notice the QPI rating is a bit lower, and it's only rated for 1066mhz. I'll find out if that really matters or not. :)
 
Just picked up a w3670 for $85, the batch looks pretty good, not too far off from my rather good x5670 (4.4ghz at 1.325v). I know the TDP is a bit higher, but I believe Intel just bumps up the rating when the stock clockspeed is higher (like the x5680, etc), in reality these CPU's are going to draw much more than 130w at 4ghz+ anyway.

I did notice the QPI rating is a bit lower, and it's only rated for 1066mhz. I'll find out if that really matters or not. :)

The entire 1st gen i7s including the Extreme line support up to 1066. Doubt there will be any tangible difference, especially if you overclock.
 
The entire 1st gen i7s including the Extreme line support up to 1066. Doubt there will be any tangible difference, especially if you overclock.

I believe the x56xx are all rated for 1333 and 6.4GT/s QPI while the w3670 is 1066mhz and 4.7GT/s.
 
I believe the x56xx are all rated for 1333 and 6.4GT/s QPI while the w3670 is 1066mhz and 4.7GT/s.

This. The X56xx have double the QPI bandwidth for the ability to run dual processors whereas the W series can only run 1.
 
Well my x5670 is still running flawlessly at 4Ghz. I had tried upgrading to 48GB of ram in January, but my board, Asus P6T Deluxe, didn't like that it was buffered ram. I occasionally run into a performance limit with the 12GB I have now. Installing ram into this board takes tons of reseats before the board sees all 6 channels, so I don't really want to try a 2nd time to upgrade (maybe if I found 6x4GB for really cheap...).

Happy to see that the newest Intel processors would be mostly a sidegrade and not a true upgrade.
 
Well my x5670 is still running flawlessly at 4Ghz. I had tried upgrading to 48GB of ram in January, but my board, Asus P6T Deluxe, didn't like that it was buffered ram. I occasionally run into a performance limit with the 12GB I have now. Installing ram into this board takes tons of reseats before the board sees all 6 channels, so I don't really want to try a 2nd time to upgrade (maybe if I found 6x4GB for really cheap...).

Happy to see that the newest Intel processors would be mostly a sidegrade and not a true upgrade.

What are you doing that exceeds 12GB? Certainly not gaming...
 
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