Are you guys going to upgrade to a 6700k when its out?

Doubtful, since there's nothing wrong with my 3770k / Z77 combo. I would rather spend money to upgrade the GPU (which would require a new case and power supply) and monitors.
 
I'm definitely interested in the platform, right now I'm running 2x 290X, a PCIe sound card and a PCIe SSD on Z97, so what I get is x8/x4 on the GPU's and x4 to the SSD, plus one of the lanes from the chipset which is 2.0 only to the sound card.

It looks like the Z170 has the capability to run PCIe 3.0 SSD's from the chipset rather than use up the GPU lanes straight from the CPU, so I would definitely be upgrading if this is the case.
 
I have to confess I'm not exactly salivating at the 6700K given this comparo to Devil's Canyon:

i7-6700k vs i7-4790k

I know that these may be preliminary numbers but when you weigh in the fact that you have to commit to an LGA1151 platform (which might require a few motherboard iterations to fully sort out) and the more expensive DDR4 RAM (which I have in my octocore and have to confess that although my synthetic benchmarks are impressive in real world applications I can't tell any difference)... I am slowly starting to doubt my decision to go with the Skylake. Maybe I should give Devil's Canyon another kick at the can? I'm really on the fence about this now.
 
I need to see tangible, real-world improvements over the rig in my sig before I upgrade. I'm particularly interested in PCI-E based SSDs with NVMe, but games really aren't bottlenecked by load times, they're bottlenecked by single threaded CPU performance.

Skylake looks like it'll be really good for a new generation of laptops, at least.

Wild card: it'll be interesting to see how DX12 changes CPU benchmark results.
 
The closer it gets the less excited I'm becoming. Looks doubtful at this point. Sticking with 3570k and updating to windows 10 next week. Recently upgraded an external drive to ssd as external drive transfer speed was my personal highest pain point. Not feeling much pain elsewhere and still feel pretty happy with that recent upgrade making me happy every time I use it still.

I'd rather put the money in the retire early fund and keep spending down. Need about 25-30x annual spend to quit working. Upgrading every 3-4 years saves about 1000 a year I figure. Which means I could retire $30,000 sooner.
 
OGMCVilleTC said:
What's the improvement going to be over Haswell or Haswell-e. Is it even going to be noticeable?
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It's still early days and the released benchmarks need to be taken with a truckfull of salt, but as it stands right now if you're using a discrete GPU there's going to be a couple of % here and another couple of % there increase over Devil's Canyon. Again, if these benchmarks stand, it will be barely noticeable in most applications. That's why I'm on the fence so badly.
 
Is 1151 Skylake's heatspreader going to be attached with solder or paste?
 
A couple of more factors about the 6700K in all fairness. Again from preliminary benchmarks it's a beast of an OCer. So if that's what makes you happy you'll be ecstatic. It also runs much cooler than the 4790K.
 
DejaWiz said:
100% unknown, but rumor mills say likely paste. :(
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I guess I'll wait for real confirmation, but I may just pick up Skylake-E then. I understand the difference isn't significant, but it's still kind of upsetting they did that.

I'm not in any rush, and I don't feel pressed to ditch my 2500k considering my gaming system is just for gaming and OCing.
 
I'm a bit undecided, my current motherboard is acting up(could be my raid card). But It's an x58 board and a 920. I need to upgrade, but I'm at the point where I need it now and not sure I can wait for skylake. We will see, I just keep milking this machine. I run a raid card because the on-board sata ports like to flake out at times.
 
I'm currently running a 2500k in my gaming / high performance rig, and I will most certainly not be upgrading to a 6700k. The irony of the new generation is that the biggest gains are the built-in graphics capabilities. That's awesome at the budget end of the spectrum where a discreet video card is not used, but it doesn't do anything for the high end community.

If I want to upgrade over the next year or two, I'll be upgrading my video card. The bang for the buck just isn't there when I'd have to replace my mobo / CPU / ram combo for minimal performance gains.
 
If they are using paste then we can expect higher OCs than what are being reported if willing to delid.
 
doublejack said:
I'm currently running a 2500k in my gaming / high performance rig, and I will most certainly not be upgrading to a 6700k. The irony of the new generation is that the biggest gains are the built-in graphics capabilities. That's awesome at the budget end of the spectrum where a discreet video card is not used, but it doesn't do anything for the high end community.

If I want to upgrade over the next year or two, I'll be upgrading my video card. The bang for the buck just isn't there when I'd have to replace my mobo / CPU / ram combo for minimal performance gains.
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I believe DX12 allows the iGPUo to work in conjunction with your discreet card to help performance. May or may not be a big deal, but if it ends up working well, the GPU boost from moving to a 6700k wouldn't be trivial.

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http://www.pcgamer.com/directx-12-will-be-able-to-use-your-integrated-gpu-to-improve-performance/

Basically, it's going to take some effort on the developers part, but we could end up seeing some non-trivial gains down the road.
 
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Doubt it, unless there is some ridiculous online sale. Would rather have a 5820 setup, but ddr4 hasnt dropped in price enough.

IHS paste or solder I think won't matter, probably will be another stupidly high variance in overclocks.
Also not willing to be a guinea pig for first gen motherboards.
 
Went from a 2600k @ 4.6 to a 5820k at, well, currently, stock speeds. Been jacking with the OC and I don't quite have it nailed down the way I like....

Anyway, no. Will be skipping this round of socket mania.
 
Intel really doesn't give a crap about desktops anymore, especially since AMD is not a threat anymore, sad.

I remember when I upgraded every year or so and it was a huge improvement, been on a 2500K for 4 years because nothing really seems to be worth it for me.
 
WildMonkey said:
Intel really doesn't give a crap about desktops anymore, especially since AMD is not a threat anymore, sad.

I remember when I upgraded every year or so and it was a huge improvement, been on a 2500K for 4 years because nothing really seems to be worth it for me.
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I suppose desktop user computers ARE fast enough. At my office, ppl have 2ghz 4gb ram laptops and they are fine.

What people have worried about for the last 5-10 years are power expenses..
 
If I can get 5.2ghz from delidding, then I'll get one and delid it. :)
 
Ivy Bridge Z77 mobo is dying. It's either invest $80 in a refurbished motherboard or a new system...decisions decisions...
 
i'll be upgrading. w10 upgrade is free for a year, but since it will be tied to your motherboard, I will make the jump from my 3820/x79/ddr3 to avoid the expense of having to acquire a new license. Also seems like a good time to make the switch from DDr3 to DDr4 with DDr3 resale prices still strong. I might have waited to cannonlake if not for the w10 license fiasco, but I think now is a great time.

So put me down for 6700k, 16gb ddr4, and z170.
 
doug_7506 said:
i'll be upgrading. w10 upgrade is free for a year, but since it will be tied to your motherboard, I will make the jump from my 3820/x79/ddr3 to avoid the expense of having to acquire a new license. Also seems like a good time to make the switch from DDr3 to DDr4 with DDr3 resale prices still strong. I might have waited to cannonlake if not for the w10 license fiasco, but I think now is a great time.

So put me down for 6700k, 16gb ddr4, and z170.
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Wait. Windows 10 license is tied to my motherboard? So if I upgrade my Windows 8.1 license to my shit Z77 mobo I have to repurchase it when I upgrade to Skylake? Why wouldn't MS just release my key?
 
Wag said:
Wait. Windows 10 license is tied to my motherboard? So if I upgrade my Windows 8.1 license to my shit Z77 mobo I have to repurchase it when I upgrade to Skylake? Why wouldn't MS just release my key?
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YES. This is exactly what im seeing on the interwebs. My understanding is that only if you have a retail key will you be able to upgrade your motherboard without having to repurchase w10. OEM buyers are SoL. However, this could be all smoke as I have been able to switch the motherboards on past oem window installs.

But of course what is being said could be wrong (I hope so). Regardless, I wouldn't upgrade to w10 though on July 29th if you plan on buying skylake in august though.
 
doug_7506 said:
YES. This is exactly what im seeing on the interwebs. My understanding is that only if you have a retail key will you be able to upgrade your motherboard without having to repurchase w10. OEM buyers are SoL. However, this could be all smoke as I have been able to switch the motherboards on past oem window installs.

But of course what is being said could be wrong (I hope so). Regardless, I wouldn't upgrade to w10 though on July 29th if you plan on buying skylake in august though.
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Ah, OK. Luckily I purchased Win 8.1 Pro from Newegg for $50 during that initial promo so I should be OK. Maybe I'll hold off just till I find on what's what though.
 
doug_7506 said:
YES. This is exactly what im seeing on the interwebs. My understanding is that only if you have a retail key will you be able to upgrade your motherboard without having to repurchase w10. OEM buyers are SoL. However, this could be all smoke as I have been able to switch the motherboards on past oem window installs.

But of course what is being said could be wrong (I hope so). Regardless, I wouldn't upgrade to w10 though on July 29th if you plan on buying skylake in august though.
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Is this actually a thing?

If I'm sitting on activated Win8.1:

-Change motherboards now, keep same install, Windows 8.1 stays activated and upgrade to 10 works perfectly
-Upgrade to 10 on same motherboard, change motherboards, lose activation?
 
Blind Man said:
Is this actually a thing?

If I'm sitting on activated Win8.1:

-Change motherboards now, keep same install, Windows 8.1 stays activated and upgrade to 10 works perfectly
-Upgrade to 10 on same motherboard, change motherboards, lose activation?
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That what it looks like.

If something major happens to the device that requires something as monumental such as a motherboard change (basically turning it into a new computer), Windows 10 will require re-activation – which will require you to purchase a license. This is what Microsoft means when it says "life of the device." Additionally, you can't transfer a license to a new device. But, if something disastrous does happen, it's usually more cost-effective to just buy a replacement device anyway and that should come pre-loaded with Windows 10. However, if you happen to buy a new device with an older OS installed, you can get the free Windows 10 upgrade as long as it falls in the free upgrade offer period.
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In order to register your install of Windows 10 an activation code will be created to uniquely identify your system. This is likely going to be some type of a hash code based on your unique system hardware configuration. It will probably use a combination of individual hardware ID’s for multiple items in your system like the hard drive, network card, video card. motherboard and possibly your Microsoft account to build this unique identifier.
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and then directly from the horses mouth:
When I upgrade a preinstalled (OEM) or retail version of Windows 7 or Windows 8/8.1 license to Windows 10, does that license remain OEM or become a retail license?
If you upgrade from a OEM or retail version of Windows 7 or Windows 8/8.1 to the free Windows 10 upgrade this summer, the license is consumed into it. Because the free upgrade is derived from the base qualifying license, Windows 10 will carry that licensing too.
If you upgrade from a retail version, it carries the rights of a retail version.
If you upgrade from a OEM version, it carries the rights of a OEM version.
Full version (Retail):
- Includes transfer rights to another computer.
- Doesn't require a previous qualifying version of Windows.
- Expensive
Upgrade version (Retail):
- Includes transfer rights to another computer.
- require a previous qualifying version of Windows.
- Expensive, but cheaper than full version
OEM :
OEM versions of Windows are identical to Full License Retail versions except for the following:
- OEM versions do not offer any free Microsoft direct support from Microsoft support personnel
- OEM licenses are tied to the very first computer you install and activate it on
- OEM versions allow all hardware upgrades except for an upgrade to a different model motherboard
- OEM versions cannot be used to directly upgrade from an older Windows operating system
What happens if I change my motherboard?
As it pertains to the OEM licenses this will invalidate the Windows 10 upgrade license because it will no longer have a previous base qualifying license which is required for the free upgrade. You will then have to purchase a full retail Windows 10 license. If the base qualifying license (Windows 7 or Windows 8.1) was a full retail version, then yes, you can transfer it.
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Again, if you are sitting on a OEM license you do NOT want to upgrade to windows 10 until after you have your skylake motherboard

On the positive side, if this is as strict as it sounds, I do expect to see a bunch of z67/z77/z87/z97 motherboards with a free version of windows 10. lol
 
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Interesting. It looks like I'm ok to upgrade prior to getting skylake since I have the retail version of 8 that they were selling for cheap when it first launched. It sounds like my key for Win8 will just become a Win10 key.
 
So I purchased a retail Win 8 Pro key back in 2012. I guess I'd have to do a fresh install of Win 8 Pro on my new build using my old key and then upgrade to Win 10 from there? Seems like an ass-backwards way of doing things.
 
Wag said:
So I purchased a retail Win 8 Pro key back in 2012. I guess I'd have to do a fresh install of Win 8 Pro on my new build using my old key and then upgrade to Win 10 from there? Seems like an ass-backwards way of doing things.
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Yup, that works. Just did it a couple of days ago, going from a 2500K/P67 build to a 5820K. I had to call MS to manually activate Windows 8 on the new system but the activation of Windows 10 (build 10240) was smooth sailing.

EDIT: To answer the OP, not upgrading to Skylake. After seeing the performance and price rumors I decided to grab a 5820K instead. I get most of the new connectivity options (NVMe M.2 and USB 3.1 being the most important) and can use the extra cores for rendering. IGP performance doesn't matter to my desktop usage. If I was in the market for a new laptop, Skylake would still be on my radar.
 
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