Apple Music Tracks Don't Work On iPod Shuffle Or Nano

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If you bought a new iPod Shuffle or Nano, good luck trying to use the Apple Music offline listening feature.

In an attempt to curb piracy, tracks downloaded for offline listening in Apple Music will not work on the new iPod Shuffle or Nano, reports 9to5 Mac. Apple Music tracks will work on an iPod Touch because Apple will be able to remove the locally stored tracks if the user cancels their subscription.
 
anyone that uses apple for music deserves it as far as I am concerned
 
I know some people will hate this Idea, But Apple could make them DRM'ed tracks with a license that is valid for say 3days or a week or 1 month (1month is setup via their subscription date). So you have to connect the device to the internet to update the license. I know some people won't like the idea of the DRM but it would been an idea to least ALLOW Apple Music offline listening to work.
 
When will these companies realize that pirated copies do not originate from streaming services. Online DRM isn't going to stop pirated copies from existing, it isn't going to stop people from pirating the songs, and it certainly isn't encouraging more people to use legit services. Instead of being paranoid all the time, they should perhaps focus on their paying customers.
 
Arbit3r said:
...But Apple could make them DRM'ed tracks...
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Remember when people were praising Apple for doing away with DRM despite them never making the effort to MAINTAIN that DRM-free position?

And here we are, right back where we started... People finding it normal that Apple would cripple peoples' ability to use the hardware they own.
 
techrat said:
Remember when people were praising Apple for doing away with DRM despite them never making the effort to MAINTAIN that DRM-free position?

And here we are, right back where we started... People finding it normal that Apple would cripple peoples' ability to use the hardware they own.
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You can still use the hardware you own, you just can't use your offline device with a streaming music service with online requirements.
 
Arbit3r said:
I know some people will hate this Idea, But Apple could make them DRM'ed tracks with a license that is valid for say 3days or a week or 1 month (1month is setup via their subscription date). So you have to connect the device to the internet to update the license. I know some people won't like the idea of the DRM but it would been an idea to least ALLOW Apple Music offline listening to work.
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How are these non WiFi enabled devices going to connect to the Internet? It would be a pain in the ass. They can't run iOS apps either, so they need a full custom solution for all twelve people who want Apple Music services on their Nano.
 
ocellaris said:
How are these non WiFi enabled devices going to connect to the Internet? It would be a pain in the ass. They can't run iOS apps either, so they need a full custom solution for all twelve people who want Apple Music services on their Nano.
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Realistically, the devices don't need to connect to the Internet directly, just iTunes via USB/cable/whatever. You gotta get the music on there somehow anyways, just make iTunes the DRM enforcer and set an expiration when offline, it's not that hard a concept to setup. Now back to my Apple hate....
 
techrat said:
And here we are, right back where we started... People finding it normal that Apple would cripple peoples' ability to use the hardware they own.
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it's less about agreeing that Apple should limit people's hardware and more about understanding how the market works.

if Apple cared about preventing people from pirating music they wouldn't allow nano's to load music from anywhere. You'd have to buy music from iTunes alone and they'd require you to sync to iTunes and only use those tracks...like it was in the beginning.

but then, as now, the corporations pulling the strings were the music labels. if not for those draconian measures we wouldn't have had an iTunes music delivery system. Without this kind of limitation we wouldn't have Apple Music streaming service...because Apple doesn't own the music (the content), Apple merely delivers it.

The choice is to have an unfettered device without the support of the major labels so the content isn't centralized (like any nice mp3 player sans eco system) or a locked down device with a centralized music catalog (and in that regard the iPod was the only option back then).

Now that streaming has rendered static catalogs obsolete Apple is moving forward to enter the streaming game and, once again, in order to deliver a viable product they're going to have to cater to the content owners' decisions. Apple isn't going to throw them under the bus so once again they'll take the brunt of the consumer anger that should be directed at the music labels who try to screw their customers every step of the way and constantly refer to their paying customers as pirates and thieves. It's interesting that people have forgotten who the real enemy is in media content ownership and delivery yet Apple is such an easy scapegoat on a forum like this.
 
Apple is an easy scapegoat because they do not care about their customers. They ONLY care about profit. Granted this is how business works but it is even more true at Apple. Heck Steve Jobs did not even care about his employees. If they cared about their customers then why do i have to erase my ipod before i can synch it with my computer when I reinstall? My other brand mp3 player does not make me do that.
 
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