Microsoft Has Finalized Windows 10

Wow a lot of you are pretty ignorant when it comes to sound quality lol. I thought I was bad. I bought a cheap 25$ asus sound card last week and it sounds a lot better than the onboard sound from my Gigabyte Z87X-OC mobo. There is really no comparison.
 
Unstableone said:
another windows, another round of bad official support from creative sound cards

havent been able to test the new version yet, but i hope higher bitrates doesnt cause the sound to break completely

also, corsairlink software had issues
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If you have an Xfi card, just use DanielK's driver pack. Works like a charm.
 
PCunicorn said:
Some of us like listening to music, watching movies, playing games, etc. with good sound quality... For me, good audio quality is almost as important as good video quality.
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Use a digital connection and an external DAC + amplifier? If audio is super, super important to you, that will be way better than any internal soundcard you use.
 
Tawnos said:
Use a digital connection and an external DAC + amplifier? If audio is super, super important to you, that will be way better than any internal soundcard you use.
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Then you get no virtual surround for your nice headphones. ;(
 
Unstableone said:
another windows, another round of bad official support from creative sound cards

havent been able to test the new version yet, but i hope higher bitrates doesnt cause the sound to break completely

also, corsairlink software had issues
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Well. Build 10166 fixed the Creative driver issue I was having. So that may be worth looking into if you haven't already. Creative released their Win10 driver schedule. Modern stuff is supposed to be this month with legacy stuff following in the months after.
 
Tawnos said:
Use a digital connection and an external DAC + amplifier? If audio is super, super important to you, that will be way better than any internal soundcard you use.
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That's what I did. I found a trash Yamaha HT amp and repaired it. Then I bought a Creative SbZ because it can convert to Dolby Digital 5.1 with optical allowing the AMP to run in direct mode. That pairing is a lot better than just running straight optical out from a lower end card.
 
Ha, I found my sound blaster live from around 2000 from my first build, Athlon 1 [which still works]
Support ended with XP so no go with 10 of course.:rolleyes:
 
DPI said:
Except your Windows 10 activation is now tied to an MSA account rather than a product key, so I'm curious how you can activate and reactivate with only a local account.
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I just installed and activated last night. You cannot activate with a local account.
I had to enable my MS account, log off, log back in, activate Windows, then switch back to my local account.

All and all, I've been pretty happy with the last few builds, but I don't use any of the Metro apps MS has been working on, and having trouble with.
 
CacaSapo said:
I just installed and activated last night. You cannot activate with a local account.
I had to enable my MS account, log off, log back in, activate Windows, then switch back to my local account.

All and all, I've been pretty happy with the last few builds, but I don't use any of the Metro apps MS has been working on, and having trouble with.
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Yeah, they made that announcement almost a month ago. To be an insider from that point forward you'll need a MS account to receive future builds. a MS account will NOT be required for people who don't want to participate in the program after the release, clean installs or purchases a system with it already installed.

In other words it will be like it is in 8. you won't be able to use the store or change a few settings but otherwise it will be a traditional product code install.
 
So I downloaded and installed 10240 last night. It was, like usual, a pretty painless process aside from taking like an hour and a half or so to complete the entire process. I didn't notice it in earlier preview builds, but it looks like 240 lets you turn the metrics collection stuff off for like key logging, mousing, and inking recognition. Besides that, it's pretty much unremarkable and "just another OS" as far as I'm concerned, but I didn't really do much with it aside from browse the web for a few minutes and read. The Store thing wanted to update a lot of stuff, but it's not as bad since I've been actively removing all the apps that offer a right-click -> uninstall option from the Start menu.
 
cyclone3d said:
If you have an Xfi card, just use DanielK's driver pack. Works like a charm.
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I saw his comments on the audio bug in win10. I switch back and forth between 5.1 speakers and a 2.1 headset. I don't want to switch over to it with stuff like this happening


The default audio stream format registry data is corrupted when:

Speakers configuration is changed;
Default format is changed to a different sample rate;
Some audio enhancements are enabled (rarely).

As the format becomes invalid no audio is played back and Windows reports a "Failed to play test tone" error in Speakers test.
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I havent had a chance to try the new build yet and danielk hasnt had any updates in a while
 
Spidey329 said:
Well. Build 10166 fixed the Creative driver issue I was having. So that may be worth looking into if you haven't already. Creative released their Win10 driver schedule. Modern stuff is supposed to be this month with legacy stuff following in the months after.
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10130 worked only if the bitrate was lowered
10176 I think it worked at stock but didnt try higher than 2.1 or increasing bitrates

I'm dumb enough to want to run 2 creative sound cards so i'm asking for trouble
 
Loudness does not equal sound quality. What many here in the pro sound card camp are arguing is that is does. The sound quality that comes from on-board graphics is just as good as sound cards, but what is missing is an amp. Solution? Buy a USB headphone amp.
 
Yeah, not understanding the whole SoundBlaster = Good Audio thing.

I know there's audio snobbery out there. But for SoundBlaster?!?!?!? Seriously?
 
nilepez said:
Unless they changed it from Windows 8, there's always been the option not to sign in via the windows account
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8.1 took that away. You can't do shit on the store without a login now.
 
TechLarry said:
8.1 took that away. You can't do shit on the store without a login now.
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You never could do anything in the store without a Microsoft account. But local login was not taken away in 8.1 and in fact, it was made more obvious.
 
TechLarry said:
8.1 took that away. You can't do shit on the store without a login now.
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After trying to troubleshoot remote clients who ONLY have access to their machines via online accounts, and thus, can't do SHIT to fix a broken system, their little information gathering scheme Microsoft can go fuck themselves.
 
Chas said:
After trying to troubleshoot remote clients who ONLY have access to their machines via online accounts, and thus, can't do SHIT to fix a broken system, their little information gathering scheme Microsoft can go fuck themselves.
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That makes no sense at all. Any remote repair works the same way regardless of whether you are using a Microsoft or local account. If someone cannot remember their password, it does not matter what type of account they are using.

Also, if they cannot get online, remote access is impossible anyways.
 
ManofGod said:
You never could do anything in the store without a Microsoft account. But local login was not taken away in 8.1 and in fact, it was made more obvious.
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Right. As long as you don't want to use the store :)
 
Ur_Mom said:
Darn stupid Microsoft for letting us opt into a preview build with fast or slow preview updates of a not yet released OS. Fuck Microsoft, man. ;)

Glad this is out. 10240. Windows 10 to Microsoft's 40 year anniversary. Well done, MSFT.

Yes, there will be continuous updates, fixes, etc.. It's stable and ready for launch, but they will keep adding more. This is the basis of Windows 10. It's an ever evolving and updating OS.
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And 10240 is probably not the RTM, or at least the RTM in its final state...;) It's remarkable, isn't it, how many people still fail to understand that the OS is still officially in beta status and will be until July 29--when it is released to the general public.

Like you, I think this is probably the best OS Microsoft has ever produced, and that's because, unlike the case with Win8, Microsoft has listened diligently to its customer base while designing Win10..and it shows! My desktop today makes both Win7 & 8 feel like they're stuck in molasses...comparatively!
 
BlueSaber80 said:
Who the fuck buys stuff from their retarded store anyway? :rolleyes:
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There are actually some decent apps there. The biggest issue is the number of apps and that's one reason Microsoft is offering a free upgrade to 10, to get as many people on 10 as quickly as possible to help spur developer interest. It may not be the spark that Microsoft is looking for but it can only help.
 
Chas said:
After trying to troubleshoot remote clients who ONLY have access to their machines via online accounts, and thus, can't do SHIT to fix a broken system, their little information gathering scheme Microsoft can go fuck themselves.
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Just treat it like a domain account. if for example their logon name was chas@ live.com the domain would be live.com
 
ManofGod said:
That makes no sense at all. Any remote repair works the same way regardless of whether you are using a Microsoft or local account. If someone cannot remember their password, it does not matter what type of account they are using.

Also, if they cannot get online, remote access is impossible anyways.
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Straight MSA users (not local users with a tied MSA account) operate under a severely curetted set of user permissions. They can't properly change UAC rights, etc.

So when you're remoting into them, you have to keep the poor bastard chained to their computer to click on each and every UAC prompt that pops up and steals control.

In some cases, that's literally EVERYTHING I'm doing. That's the sort of thing that turns a 2 hour install into a 4 hour ordeal.
 
with all the widespread reports I'm reading of the metro apps still frequently crashing in this build it sounds like it has no business being RTM.
 
DPI said:
with all the widespread reports I'm reading of the metro apps still frequently crashing in this build it sounds like it has no business being RTM.
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MS Metro apps or just generic metro apps? If the former, then that's a problem...and honestly, I'm not sure why they'd push the OS out early, since it really doesn't matter if it comes out 7/29 or 9/29.
 
Unstableone said:
another windows, another round of bad official support from creative sound cards

havent been able to test the new version yet, but i hope higher bitrates doesnt cause the sound to break completely

also, corsairlink software had issues
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i dont get why they dont hire some decent coders
they have had driver issues since XP ...
 
cdr_74_premium said:
I am wondering what PC will get it first. Can i go with a slow one and still be happy?
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How slow? I'm running it on a Core i5 2520M (dual core 2.5 GHz Sandy Bridge laptop CPU), 4 GB of RAM, and a 320GB 7200 RPM hard drive and it's completely usable. I haven't tried it on anything older though I was tempted to load it on an Atom n270, but the number of new builds and the time it takes to download and install them kinda put me off to trying it. There are YouTube vids of people running it on hardware like that and the system requirements seem to indicate that it'd be an okay experience (prolly not by forum standards, but for people used to netbook-class stuff already, it might not be any different than 7 on the same hardware).
 
nilepez said:
MS Metro apps or just generic metro apps? If the former, then that's a problem...and honestly, I'm not sure why they'd push the OS out early, since it really doesn't matter if it comes out 7/29 or 9/29.
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The Microsoft apps and even the Store app itself. Half of the apps open and crash immediately.

Going to see if performing a Refresh fixes it.
 
Tried 2 different creative sound cards in windows 10 today. Microphone quality (skype) was so bad my friend could not understand me on one, and barely on the other.

Sound quality in games and videos was not good.

The danielk pack for win10 doesnt support my stuff yet it seems.
 
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