1366 x58 Xeon Enthusiast overclocks club

So I was going to install one of these today and then overclock it. I heard that these chips can take more heat than the i7 9xx series, is there any truth to that? What's "too hot" for Prime95 on these chips?
 
t1337Dude said:
So I was going to install one of these today and then overclock it. I heard that these chips can take more heat than the i7 9xx series, is there any truth to that? What's "too hot" for Prime95 on these chips?
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Keep it under 80C and you'll be fine.
 
Well, I put the X5670 in my GA-X58A-UD3R Rev1 and it works perfect at stock settings. Unfortunately, as soon as I touch any settings pertaining to overclocking, my boot will fail and revert back to stock clocks.

Things I tried...

1) Without raising voltage, tried simply turning the multiplier from 22x to 24x. Wouldn't boot and reverted.

2) Without raising voltage, tried turning BCLK up by 3 (raised from 133 to 136). Wouldn't boot and reverted.


3) Set vcore to 1.35v, setting multi to x24 tried turning BCLK to 175 (for 4.2 GHz).Wouldn't boot and reverted.

I made sure my memory wasn't on Turbo. My memory is rated at 1866 so that shouldn't be giving me issues. Surely there's something major I'm missing. I've also tried copying other people's settings (including people who have my board) and I'm just not having any luck.


EDIT: I spent a lot more time in my BIOS and finally got things working. But so far I'm not really impressed with my results. My temperatures are a bit higher than I was expecting, I'm worried that maybe I did a poor thermal paste job (backplate fell off so I had to take off heatsink, after already smearing the paste a bit, and then put it back on).

So, with 1.375 on the Vcore, 1.355 QPI, 1.9 PLL, IOH 1.25 22 Multi, 195 BCLK (4.29 GHz), I'm getting very hot temps (climbs to 80c within a few minutes of Prime95). The temperatures seem uneven too (some of the cores are often 10c hotter/colder than the others).

Another thing is that I can't see my multiplier go above 22 in Windows, even if I set it that way. For example, I'll set it to 24, and it will POST showing the 24 multi, but once I'm in Windows CPU-Z always shows 22, yet the temperatures seem a bit hotter.

EDIT 2: After further experimenting in my BIOS and tweaking the voltages, I've managed to get to 4.44 GHz without Turbo mode. Seems about right - and it also seems I'll need Turbo mode working if I'm going to hit higher frequencies. Any idea how to get my multi to stick to 24 or 25? I have all the CPU power-saving modes disabled in my BIOS.
 
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MrGuvernment said:
81.3C is the tj max for the x5650.
http://ark.intel.com/products/47922/Intel-Xeon-Processor-X5650-12M-Cache-2_66-GHz-6_40-GTs-Intel-QPI

When i was hitting 71-73C the turbo mode throttle would kick in for me.
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That is actually the Tcase temperature listed there, which is the maximum temp at the heat spreader level.

The Tmax listed on my x5650 in coretemp is 96 degrees celcius.

Also the throttling that you are seeing is due to your P6T motherboard, not the CPU, as mentioned previously in this thread.

When I had my CPU fan on backwards after swapping my cpu (doh) I was hitting core temps of 90 degrees+ without throttling.
 
Thinking about a Powercolor PCS+ r9 390. Think I'll run into power issues at my clocks? I know it is a bit of a beast of a card and these CPU's/boards are very power hungry when overclocked. :)
 
tbob22 said:
Thinking about a Powercolor PCS+ r9 390. Think I'll run into power issues at my clocks? I know it is a bit of a beast of a card and these CPU's/boards are very power hungry when overclocked. :)
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I think you'll be fine. I'm running an X5675 @ 4.0GHz with an R9 290 @ 1050/1400 without issue on a recently purchased Thermaltake Smart 750W.
 
Hazard said:
I think you'll be fine. I'm running an X5675 @ 4.0GHz with an R9 290 @ 1050/1400 without issue on a recently purchased Thermaltake Smart 750W.
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And now I can't overclock to 4.0GHz... I had my X5675 at 23 x 160, 1.2875v with Turbo on auto so it was always running at 25 x 160 by itself. I decided to push it to 165 and it wouldn't boot. So, I tried to get it back to 160 and it won't work. Even at 1.29v it won't go over 155 now. Not sure why. It's on an EX58-UD3R v1.0.
 
Hazard said:
And now I can't overclock to 4.0GHz... I had my X5675 at 23 x 160, 1.2875v with Turbo on auto so it was always running at 25 x 160 by itself. I decided to push it to 165 and it wouldn't boot. So, I tried to get it back to 160 and it won't work. Even at 1.29v it won't go over 155 now. Not sure why. It's on an EX58-UD3R v1.0.
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That is strange. Try disabling turbo? Lower your memory speed?
Also, ordered a 390. Should be fun. I'll post the results when I get it. :)
 
tbob22 said:
That is strange. Try disabling turbo? Lower your memory speed?
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Tried both. Nada. Loaded safe defaults and tried 160 again. Didn't work either. I'm gonna clear the CMOS tonight and see what happens.

tbob22 said:
Also, ordered a 390. Should be fun. I'll post the results when I get it. :)
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Nice. This was my last Fire Strike result at 4.0GHz with the R9 290 at 1070/1400 before I murdered the CPU overclock.

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/5392557

Still have room to go up on the R9 290 but haven't tried.
 
Have been using a X5680 on one awhile now, it runs at 4.5 easily daily.

Even have a X5650 on the HTPC.

Nice upgrades for the older boards, have a L5639 laying on the desk doing nothing :p
 
Hazard said:
Tried both. Nada. Loaded safe defaults and tried 160 again. Didn't work either. I'm gonna clear the CMOS tonight and see what happens.



Nice. This was my last Fire Strike result at 4.0GHz with the R9 290 at 1070/1400 before I murdered the CPU overclock.

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/5392557

Still have room to go up on the R9 290 but haven't tried.
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Maybe try less ram if that doesn't work.

I'll have to run 3dmark again. With my old 860 I got about 7200
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/3854754

Edit: Those clocks are not right. I'm pretty sure I was at 4.2ghz and at least 1100/1500 on the GPU
 
I have certainly had a couple of occasions where my bios seemed glitched and doing a long proper c-mos reset did magic.....no bullshit. After that i was back hitting my usual overclock again no problem. Course i have set my bios up some many times its one of the few things i have memorized. :D
 
MongGrel said:
Have been using a X5680 on one awhile now, it runs at 4.5 easily daily.

Even have a X5650 on the HTPC.

Nice upgrades for the older boards, have a L5639 laying on the desk doing nothing :p
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What are you gonna do with that little Hex core?
 
primetime said:
I have certainly had a couple of occasions where my bios seemed glitched and doing a long proper c-mos reset did magic.....no bullshit. After that i was back hitting my usual overclock again no problem. Course i have set my bios up some many times its one of the few things i have memorized. :D
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Unlike my wife's X58A-UD5, my EX5-UD3R doesn't have a fancy schmancy reset BIOS button in the back. I didn't really want to pop the top off the tight GD09 case and wrestle through a jungle of cables to get to the jumper or battery but I guess that's what I'll have to do.
 
Dont forget to pop out the battery, turn supply switch off and drain the caps buy holding the power switch. Sometimes the hardest thing is getting to the dam battery...on my board it always it a super hard to reach spot:D Whoever invented those wearable led headlights really made life easier on these occasions ;)
 
primetime said:
Dont forget to pop out the battery, turn supply switch off and drain the caps buy holding the power switch. Sometimes the hardest thing is getting to the dam battery...on my board it always it a super hard to reach spot:D Whoever invented those wearable led headlights really made life easier on these occasions ;)
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Unplugged, cleared CMOS and took out to video card to get to the battery and back in business! Put it back to 4.0GHz and... lost 1200 points in Firestike... Gonna have to tinker a bit.
 
Got my Powercolor 390 today. All seems to work well. The cooler on this thing is a beast, it just barely fits in my case, I don't think the Nitro would fit as it is about a half inch longer, but not quite as thick. Had to switch my SATA cables for angled ones as the heatsink hit.

Had to raise the max power to 20% to keep the clocks from jumping around while running Furmark, I had to do the same thing with my 7950. Temps max out at 67c core with the fan speed at 74% (pretty noisy). VRM1 gets a bit hotter than I would have liked, maxes out at 77c, VRM2 maxes out at 66c. I think the temps are pretty good, but it does get pretty loud. Under normal load it is quite quiet.

At high fan speeds (60%+) the shroud is rattling a bit. If i push on it between second and third fan it stops.. A bit annoying, but I'll probably just wrap a ziptie around it to stop it, not worth sending it in for something like that.

Firestrike 7950 (stock)
Firestrike 390 (stock)

I don't think the x5670 is holding it back so that's nice. :)

(380,7950,470,4850x2,4870,8800gt)



 
tbob22 said:
Got my Powercolor 390 today. All seems to work well. The cooler on this thing is a beast, it just barely fits in my case, I don't think the Nitro would fit as it is about a half inch longer, but not quite as thick. Had to switch my SATA cables for angled ones as the heatsink hit.

Had to raise the max power to 20% to keep the clocks from jumping around while running Furmark, I had to do the same thing with my 7950. Temps max out at 67c core with the fan speed at 74% (pretty noisy). VRM1 gets a bit hotter than I would have liked, maxes out at 77c, VRM2 maxes out at 66c. I think the temps are pretty good, but it does get pretty loud. Under normal load it is quite quiet.

At high fan speeds (60%+) the shroud is rattling a bit. If i push on it between second and third fan it stops.. A bit annoying, but I'll probably just wrap a ziptie around it to stop it, not worth sending it in for something like that.

Firestrike 7950 (stock)
Firestrike 390 (stock)

I don't think the x5670 is holding it back so that's nice. :)

(380,7950,470,4850x2,4870,8800gt)



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30% bump in graphics power....not bad at all....and all the crazy people spend 2 to 3 times that far an extra 10%...yea you did good
 
Just bumped my GTX 560 to a GTX 970 (EVGA FTW+)

VERY happy with it.
 
primetime said:
30% bump in graphics power....not bad at all....and all the crazy people spend 2 to 3 times that far an extra 10%...yea you did good
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It's actually around 58%.

GPU score is even higher at about 66%
7303 > 12132.

Real life performance should be a solid 50% across the board. Up to 100% at higher resolutions in demanding games with lots of effects/AA. :)
 
I just noticed today that difference in temperature on one of my cores is freaking 10C, to be exact core number 4...
Most idle around 32-34C but #4 is at 42! WTF... I would think that thermall paste is no spread out evenly, but core number 4 is in the freaking middle of the chip...

Bad heatspreader contact with the die?
Does any one have this kind of thing?
 
Vlad_13 said:
I just noticed today that difference in temperature on one of my cores is freaking 10C, to be exact core number 4...
Most idle around 32-34C but #4 is at 42! WTF... I would think that thermall paste is no spread out evenly, but core number 4 is in the freaking middle of the chip...

Bad heatspreader contact with the die?
Does any one have this kind of thing?
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It's normal with so many cores. There is close to 15c difference on one of my x5670's. The temp readings aren't usually accurate at idle, they are more accurate at load but still not very accurate.

It could be a bad thermal paste application or an uneven heatspreader, I wasn't able to remedy mine with 5+ re-applications, so I gave up. :)
 
I have not tried load temperatures... Will run some stress test programs tomorrow, will see what temps will be at load...
 
Just bought this for $200 bucks, looks to be in perfect condition :)

Complete computer except monitor.

Motherboard = Asus P6T SE 1366
CPU = i7 950
Memory = GSkill 1333 Triple Channel (3x2)
PSU = Thermaltake 500 watt
CASE = Antec 900 mid tower
HDD = Western Digital 640 Black
GPU = MSI GTX 470 Nvidia
keyboard and mouse was thrown in as well


Coming from 6G DDR2 with a e6750 core2duo :( oced @ 3.2 ghz on a stock cooler on 1 of abits last boards before they folded ( ip 35 pro ) I built back in 07. I hope this will bring me good gaming for another 5 -7 years.

-gonna swap the psu to an antec 850 ( truepower quattro with yellow stripes from 07 )
-add a zalman 9900 I've got lying around ( pretty sure I have the bracket adapter for 1366)
-install OS on a 32g ocz sata new in the box I've had for years (hope it'll fit win 10)
-add a Gskill triple channel DDR3 kit I have from a friends upgrade (12g total)
-throw in my ati 7870 ghz edition 2g card witch I just upgraded from 6850 1g a week ago

Im hoping for a 4.2 oc on the i7 950 and will hunt for a 5670ish core when i can afford 1. This should be a nice step up for me.

Sucks being broke but ive been looking at this thread for what seems like years trying to find an upgrade board I can afford and the 1366 seems like a fun affordable system to play and upgrade with.

On a side note I can only see this thread because I have it book marked, was it deleted?

Now I just need to find the time to assemble this awesome old new rig!!!!!!!

Happy x58ing to you all :)
 
You may want to crack that antec open and make sure the caps are in good condition....thats a lot of years for a supply...but it does sound like you got a great price. The reason your unable to find the thread is you have to make sure to change the filter to show all threads for say 2 weeks instead of 2 days and it won't disappear near as fast...just a funny way they set the forum to default to
 
For those of us on a budget, still looks like x58 is the way to go even with the Skylake reviews out. Especially in Canada. In $CDN, even with a 6500k, adding the cost of a new cooler, mobo, and DDR4 likely puts us well into the $700 range conservatively.

In my case I can pick up another matching 3x2gb DDR3 kit for 50 bucks for 12GB total, and add a x5650 for another $120 = less then $200 Canadian after tax. Really, I knew this all along, but seeing reviews/prices starting to trickle out confirms there isn't any magic happening with Skylake.

Any x58ers being converted to Skylake?
 
Blind Man said:
For those of us on a budget, still looks like x58 is the way to go even with the Skylake reviews out. Especially in Canada. In $CDN, even with a 6500k, adding the cost of a new cooler, mobo, and DDR4 likely puts us well into the $700 range conservatively.

In my case I can pick up another matching 3x2gb DDR3 kit for 50 bucks for 12GB total, and add a x5650 for another $120 = less then $200 Canadian after tax. Really, I knew this all along, but seeing reviews/prices starting to trickle out confirms there isn't any magic happening with Skylake.

Any x58ers being converted to Skylake?
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To me, that makes complete sense since it's a simple CPU upgrade. I grabbed my last X5675 for $80 USD when our CAD wasn't nearly as terrible but luckily I keep some USD in Paypal anyways.
 
I would love to get some more life out of my x58 board, but it seems my mobo's bios needs a microcode update in order accept an 56xx chip. Can anyone point me in the right direction for modding my bios?
 
Guys,, I was looking at this review

http://www.bjorn3d.com/2015/08/sapphire-nitro-r9-390-8g-ds-review-playing-nitro/

I notice the test setup was Intel Haswell E 5820k 4.4GHz

They got 55.7 fps in Heaven 4.0 for the 390 on that platform..

Ok I got 56 fps in Heaven 4.0 on the 290x New Edition with the Xeon at 3.9Ghz

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v400/crazycrave/Heaven 4.0 290x.png

Also look at the Fire strike score.. mine is Graphics Score12298

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/5570685

So unless real world gaming shows something else then I don't see Haswell E 5820K being notting but a side step.
 
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I have an evga x58 SLI, original run (pretty sure it's 1.0) and according to evga support this model needs a "product modification" to accommodate a Westmere Xeon. Anyone know if that's a modded BIOS or would I need a physical mod to the board?
 
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