AMD Three Gen Rebrand Chart

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I know rebrand is sort of a dirty word and the newer cards will have DX12 support (nothing a bios flash wouldn't fix?) and better coolers but I'm trying to find a combination of these two charts. This way I can watch for deals on 7000 and 200 series card people are trying to get rid of.

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So 390x=290x=7990?

And 7770 =260x= 360?
 
I'm very sorry to inform you that bios flash has nothing to do with DX12. DX12 is even supported on older AMD APU in other words it is just a driver to be precise it is a driver for GCN based products...

AMD stated that the 3xx cards are no rebrands from a technical standpoint they are right but in real life there is hardly anything going for them that would justify calling it a "new" product.

I'm also wondering why you just listed something as 7970 as being the same as R9 290x could you be more imaginative could you list even older cards and tell them that they are rebranding 10 year old products ...
 
370 is not a 270X, it's a 265/7850.
So the 2nd chart isn't totally correct. Probably because it's from May.
 
gameaholic said:
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This chart is almost completely wrong across the board... Hawaii chips started with the 290/290x and have since been rebranded with the 390/390x series.

Tonga is represented in the 200 series solely with the r9-285, and now is rebranded in the 300 series as the 380. There is, as of yet, no 380x.

This will help you. Also, this.
 
My advise is do not get overly caught up in the "it's just a rebrand" mentality. A lot of times the small difference in price is outweighed in improvements they have made on the new generation of cards. The only times is generally applicable is if you already own the gpu in question. For example an owner of a well running 290x would usually not benefit enough from buying the improved version or 390x.

This doesn't always mean everyone should skip purchasing the usually more expensive rebranded product, as in many cases there are benefits. My replacement 280x for example is way better than the 7970 it replaced. In hindsight it would have been worth the extra 20 bucks
 
Yow - those charts! They would do better to add memory bus widths in there.
 
primetime said:
This doesn't always mean everyone should skip purchasing the usually more expensive rebranded product, as in many cases there are benefits. My replacement 280x for example is way better than the 7970 it replaced. In hindsight it would have been worth the extra 20 bucks
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But if you can just slap 280X bios to the old 7970 then it just means that if you got "better" 280X, it was because the chip was better and you got lucky with the lottery. Or the custom 280X model was better in other aspects compared to your 7970.

In my case: my original ref 7970 which I bought at release was doing 1.3ghz game stable clocks on water and almost 1.4ghz benchmark runs though those runs were done with insane voltages. Heck some 7970 cards were almost able to do 1.3ghz on air like that Asus Matrix card. I still haven't seen 280X do the same.
 
Cataulin said:
so 2 280x's = 1 290x? that doesn't add up.
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I'm not sure I understand your question... OP seems to be trying to tie together card models across re-brands and that's what I was addressing. Perhaps I am mistaken? :confused:

In that regard, 280x cards have no relationship to 290/290x. A 280x is the same GPU under the hood as a 7970. However, a 290/290x uses completely different silicon.

If you're asking me if I think 2x 280x = 1x 290x worth of performance, then that is probably a completely different question than the one I think OP is trying to answer. I suspect that with good scaling, x-fired 280x probably beats a 290x. With bad scaling, definitely not.
 
Osjur said:
But if you can just slap 280X bios to the old 7970 then it just means that if you got "better" 280X, it was because the chip was better and you got lucky with the lottery. Or the custom 280X model was better in other aspects compared to your 7970.

In my case: my original ref 7970 which I bought at release was doing 1.3ghz game stable clocks on water and almost 1.4ghz benchmark runs though those runs were done with insane voltages. Heck some 7970 cards were almost able to do 1.3ghz on air like that Asus Matrix card. I still haven't seen 280X do the same.
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Of course there are always going to be exceptions to the rule...but a person shopping for a newer card is almost never going to know what original cards actually did better than their newer replacements, not to mention the general price of these "golden cards" are not going to even show up on the radar when searching for low price deals. The original reference 7970 cards went for what 500-600 dollars? Just saying;)

Also people should know flashing an incompatible bios onto a card without a bios switch can be very risky. Not everyone can correct these mistakes after bricking a card and if the warranty is out your SOL
 
cortexodus said:
This chart is almost completely wrong across the board... Hawaii chips started with the 290/290x and have since been rebranded with the 390/390x series.

Tonga is represented in the 200 series solely with the r9-285, and now is rebranded in the 300 series as the 380. There is, as of yet, no 380x.

This will help you. Also, this.
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Yeah, this chart is wrong almost entirely, and it's not just a little wrong, it's whole-heartedly, broad-sweepingly wrong. Like '2+2=Potato' wrong.
 
Osjur said:
In my case: my original ref 7970 which I bought at release was doing 1.3ghz game stable clocks on water and almost 1.4ghz benchmark runs though those runs were done with insane voltages. Heck some 7970 cards were almost able to do 1.3ghz on air like that Asus Matrix card. I still haven't seen 280X do the same.
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Same but mine is/was doing that on reference air, but seems most people who knew what they were doing got 1200+ core out of them. Don't understand why the 280x, presumably with some process improvements, cannot do what the 7970 could. Perhaps the good chips after the reference launch, were binned for mobile parts?
 
cortexodus said:
In that regard, 280x cards have no relationship to 290/290x. A 280x is the same GPU under the hood as a 7970. However, a 290/290x uses completely different silicon.
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I wasnt aware that the 290/290X was completely different. I've gotten used to both companies rebranding everything.

Thanks.
 
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