anyone else having Firefox stop redrawing?

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Update: this is supposed to be fixed with FF 38.0.5 according to the release notes. It was a code race condition on tab switch / close.

Basically, Firefox "looks" like it's frozen, and "appears" to have stopped responding to clicks and typing. No, it's perfectly alive, except the screen simply isn't being updated at all. I have to grab the edge of the Firefox window and resize, then redraw starts again. nVidia driver bug? Firefox bug? Hardware failing? This started 2-3 months ago. Only happens with Firefox application (though I don't use IE / Chrome / Opera). I guess I could roll back to 340.52 from July 2014 for the heck of it, but I suspect Firefox. Using Windows 7 SP1 x64.
 
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Firefox has been doing this to me for a while now. I've submitted bug reports with every version. And it still hasn't helped.

I'm also on the same platform you are.

Win7 x64 with an nVidia video card.
 
I've seen it happen occasionally. I just assume it's poor web scripts running that are locking up the system.

I don't see it happen on simple and/or professional sites.
 
bigdogchris said:
I've seen it happen occasionally. I just assume it's poor web scripts running that are locking up the system.

I don't see it happen on simple and/or professional sites.
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Good idea, I will start noting the websites. But bad scripts tend to actually freeze, not just a glitch in the redraw.
 
I installed nv driver 347.88 and rebooted, and FF hasn't glitched yet today. That's curious, but inconclusive. It glitched a ton yesterday which is why I finally made a thread, it was out of control, like every few minutes. Tried upgrading MSI AB and disabling gpu monitor.

Nope, just did it on the AnandTech forum. Closed a forum tab, and redraw stopped. Just previously I was watching NetFlix which uses SilverLight.

Had a game TDR ... perhaps too much gpu oc, whoops. Running stock speed for a while. Nope, FF still does it ... I think FF is plain buggy.

Oh, I know it's not the hardware duh ... it also happens on my Dad's PC and my laptop. And my brother said it happens on his FF too.

I'll have to try disabling all plug-ins and add-ons. (Ugh, that means browsing with ads.) update: Hrm, no problems yet ...
 
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Eh, Firefox just updated from 36.0.1 to 36.0.3. But I haven't had redraw glitch yet since I disabled all extensions and add-ons including Flash and ABP.
 
Re-enabled just Flash / Silverlight / Acrobat / ABP / GMarks, and still no redraw issue yet. Must be one of the other odd-ball extensions / add-ons:

Old Default Image Style
Cryptocat
AdobeAAMDetect
Battlelog Game Launcher
ESN Sonar API
Google Update
Java(TM) Platform SE 8
Microsoft Office 2010 (x2)
OpenH264 Video Codec by Cisco

Firefox updated itself to 36.0.4 also.

edit: naturally, it started occurring again soon after posting this. It started out with 2-3 second pauses, then full-on pauses that required a window resize. Maybe it's just garbage collection gone wrong. Need to leave Task Manager open so I can have insight to FF cpu usage when it happens.
 
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Just happened on my laptop, and I just realized the following observation: it's ALWAYS when closing a tab. The tab "doesn't close" and FF appears frozen. Click any toolbar button, and it redraws, revealing the tab actually did close. Happened on [H] this time!
 
Yes. Win 7x64 here. Only 1-3 extensions are enabled.
Annoying enough for me to want to go to Chrome.
 
Just switched to Win8.1 x64 on the main desktop (well, new mobo/cpu/ram/gpu too). So I'll be able to contrast Win7 vs Win8 here.
 
It doesn't seem to happen in Win 8.1, but instead it gave me partially black images and I had to turn off hardware acceleration, as I saw many complaints online about the same issue (only seems to happen on Win 8).

FF 37.0 is out.
 
Happens to me occasionally, even after upgrading to 37.0.2. I've noticed that it usually happens when switching/closing out a tab containing only a picture as the content i.e. no html.

edit: I should note that hw acceleration is disabled.
 
I'm on 35.0.1 and havent seen this problem.
But I have scripting disabled on most sites and use a 290x

Thanks for the headsup, I wont upgrade yet!

I hope its not tied to NVidia drivers somehow, I have a 980 coming.
 
GushpinBob said:
Happens to me occasionally, even after upgrading to 37.0.2. I've noticed that it usually happens when switching/closing out a tab containing only a picture as the content i.e. no html.

edit: I should note that hw acceleration is disabled.
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On Win8.1 it seems to happen much less (vs Win7) but then again news drivers have been released since my Win7 install. In fact what also happens sometimes is that half of the page renders, while leaving the lower half stale.

It happens on my AMD notebook too, so it strikes me as a FF bug, not an nvidia driver bug.
 
That's one of the weirdest glitches I've ever heard of. I have issues where FF will stop responding and/or start crashing but it's because I have like 100 tabs open in 4 diff windows lol. (yeah I'm crazy) My problem is I do random searches of stuff then leave tabs open till I remember to go back and finish what I was looking for. For me the issues happens after too many tabs are opened (like 180+) and/or I've been playing all night opening and closing tabs. Memory usage will spike above 2GB, then I just end task on the process and reopen FF and I'm good unless I open too many tabs again.

From a support point of view I'd say uninstall and do a manual search for all FF directories, temp location and totally remove everything then re-install.

What happens if you duplicate everything in Chrome for example?
 
FF 38.0.1 fixes another redraw/image load problem:

"Large animated images may fail to play and may stop other images from loading"

Which I actually noticed.
 
I have auto-update set, so have been on 38 and 38.0.1 for a while now and it seems even slower than usual.

For like a week now I've been forced to close firefox via killing it in task manager which in turn causes plugin-container to crash.

This happens on an old Intel chipset laptop (xp), my desktop with an Nvidia 9600GT (7) and an older desktop with some random radeon (7).

I only have flash and Adobe Reader installed. Latest versions.

Oh well, hopefully it will get fixed when they do another rework of the user interface next week.



And then they'll break it again when they fix their fixes the week after that.
 
I've had a problem since 35.0.1 where exactly 1 minute after opening firefox, it would use 25% or more CPU continuously, even without any page loaded.
Upgraded to 38.0.1 and the problem persisted.
Google and bug reports were of no help.

It turned out to be the cache folders:
\Users\%user%\AppData\Local\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\...
I deleted the contents of this folder and its back to normal.
fyi
 
Mine's empty right now as I'm browsing. On my PC with the 9600gt and Win7.

I remember either setting privacy to clear it at shutdown or it might be because I tried to use RAM as my cache when I first bought an SSD and have the following in my config:

browser.cache.disk.enable;false
browser.cache.memory.enable;true
browser.cache.disk.smart_size.enabled;false

I also use ccleaner once every few weeks. However I don't have the above directives in my work laptop with XP and an Intel chipset. Both have problems since 38, though. Nothing major, it pops up every now and then.
 
After upgrading to 970 i have had firefoox look like it didnt refresh certain parts of the webpage.
It will have a big black block for a few seconds

Win7 SP1 64, FF 38.0.1. nvidia GTX 970
 
On Linux with the latest openSUSE updates, it started giving really strange artifacts (650Ti) occasionally. Only happens in the FF web browser!
 
On Windows 7, FF stopped responding. I used Ctrl+Alt+Del to shut it down. IE is working fine.
 
BADABOOM 38.0.5 seems like they found it!!!

"A race condition that would cause Firefox to stop painting when switching tabs (bug 1067470)"
 
How about some REAL EXCITING news?

Has Firefox 50 been annnounced yet?

Did they finally remove EVERYTHING leaving just the rendering canvas?

Man I hope they finally fixed that flaw where their lackluster PDF reader sometimes failed to replace Acrobat's plugin!

And, truly, I keep forgetting they've 'improved synchro' and I really should update again today!

And no, I'm not a fan of anything. I hate all browsers and most tools.
 
I guess try Palemoon or Waterfox, built from the FF code base. There are only so many browsers to choose from.


michalrz said:
How about some REAL EXCITING news?

Has Firefox 50 been annnounced yet?

Did they finally remove EVERYTHING leaving just the rendering canvas?

Man I hope they finally fixed that flaw where their lackluster PDF reader sometimes failed to replace Acrobat's plugin!

And, truly, I keep forgetting they've 'improved synchro' and I really should update again today!

And no, I'm not a fan of anything. I hate all browsers and most tools.
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Once in awhile but what bugs me is I'll open up a tab that has my most visited pages and it will be partially black or blocky.

I had cached web content set to auto and it always seemed to go to 350mb and no further.
Manually setting it to be max at 1024 it goes up around 425mb and I don't get that blocky black rendering.

It's not my 750ti with 2G of memory, I don't even use half of it.
 
Now FF is redrawing FB over and over in bold and non-bold ... just hold your mouse over the tab and look at the side chat bar.
 
I was about to contact [H] about their front page links sending traffic every time my mouse goes over one.
Not local [H] site links, external sites only.
Then I noticed it happening on with other websites as well so its the newer build of Firefox.
I am on 38.0.1

How I know...
I use peerblock to block most of the web.
When I mouse over a link, peerblock shows a connection attempt.
It did not used to do this, a connection attempt was only made when "clicking" a link.
(it could actually be sending traffic to [H] as well but because [H] isnt blocked and a connection is already open, it doesnt show up in Peerblock)

It doesnt make the browser go to the page, but some traffic is sent to whatever link my mouse hovers on because a connection attempt is made every single time my mouse touches a link.
The IP the traffic goes to is that of the specific link.

They had better remove this feature or provide a way of disabling it.
 
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Wow, now I am getting major black squares in FF 38.0.5 + 353.06 driver (Win 8.1 x64). Plagues YouTube badly, and a little bit on [H]. This is new, so it's got to be driver or software. Aaaaand Firefox crashed 3 minutes later. Perhaps an issue with Flash, it was plugincontainer.
 
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I've had 3 browser crashes this evening.
I wondered if it was exceeding 2GB as thats been the cause of previous crashes but it was only just over 300MB on the last one.
No idea of the cause yet.

I also get a problem selecting tabs at times.
I can click on a tab and it will not go to it.
If I select another one and then go back to that tab, it works ok.
 
Nenu said:
I was about to contact [H] about their front page links sending traffic every time my mouse goes over one.
Not local [H] site links, external sites only.
Then I noticed it happening on with other websites as well so its the newer build of Firefox.
I am on 38.0.1

How I know...
I use peerblock to block most of the web.
When I mouse over a link, peerblock shows a connection attempt.
It did not used to do this, a connection attempt was only made when "clicking" a link.
(it could actually be sending traffic to [H] as well but because [H] isnt blocked and a connection is already open, it doesnt show up in Peerblock)

It doesnt make the browser go to the page, but some traffic is sent to whatever link my mouse hovers on because a connection attempt is made every single time my mouse touches a link.
The IP the traffic goes to is that of the specific link.

They had better remove this feature or provide a way of disabling it.
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support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-stop-firefox-making-automatic-connections
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-stop-firefox-making-automatic-connections
 
Thankyou!!

edit
yaaaaaaay fixed :)
 
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I've noticed Firefox using up a lot of ram and then getting really laggy when it has used about 2GB of ram.
Also, for some reason when I browse on Amazon, it keeps refreshing about 6 times or so making it kinda laggy till the refreshing stops.
 
Next time the black squares appear, I'll check Task Manager asap, that's probably the problem.
 
xorbe said:
Next time the black squares appear, I'll check Task Manager asap, that's probably the problem.
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Nope, FF is only using about 1GB when the problem starts. 32GB ram and 12GB of vram ... not a ram problem. It only happens in FF so it must be a FF bug, though some people claim changing gfx driver versions has helped. Hmm, I wonder if it is related to having an active Flash or Silverlight tab.
 
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Zepher said:
I've noticed Firefox using up a lot of ram and then getting really laggy when it has used about 2GB of ram.
Also, for some reason when I browse on Amazon, it keeps refreshing about 6 times or so making it kinda laggy till the refreshing stops.
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I've actually had to block the images-amazon.com and ssl-images-amazon.com domains with NoScript due to that behavior. Slideshows, expandable images, and videos won't work anymore with those links blacklisted but it definitely speeds up browsing their site.
 
GushpinBob said:
I've actually had to block the images-amazon.com and ssl-images-amazon.com domains with NoScript due to that behavior. Slideshows, expandable images, and videos won't work anymore with those links blacklisted but it definitely speeds up browsing their site.
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Agreed. I ended up restoring my old FF 31.0 edition because I use Amazon so often and the missing categories from the webpages after doing that weren't acceptable to me. But not blocking the link made it painfully slow. Screw that. Get your shit together Firefox.

I use Chrome too but not as my main browser bc it's still missing key features and addons that FF has.
 
The Amazon slowness issue seems to be resolved in FF 39. Thankfully, because 31 was getting a bit sluggish all around. 39 is much snappier.
 
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