MSI Launches The GTX 980 Ti GAMING 6G

ajm786 said:
Well, 980GTX is much lower TDP, so kinda expected. At least it's not TOO bad in my case; the GTX 570 I just came from has a 219W TDP, whereas my new card is 250W TDP.
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TDP does not always mean much. A non reference "145 watt" gtx970 can use about the same power as a "250 watt" reference gtx780.
 
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http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_980_Ti_Gaming/

Full-on gaming will have the card reach 37 dBA, which is much noisier than I had hoped for. The EVGA GTX 980 Ti SC+ is definitely quieter with 35 dBA. Back in the day, when we tested the MSI GTX 780 Ti Gaming, the card produced only 30 dBA of fan noise under load, with a power consumption that's similar to that of the GTX 980 Ti Gaming. So I see no reason why such noise levels shouldn't be possible on the GTX 980 Ti, too.
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Was considering sc+, but in my country sc+ was like $150 more than MSI. That was a bit too much for 2 dB less :) it's still more silent than my old pair of 970s in SLI, and until I pull over 1500 mhz, I really can't hear the card when I don't clock it like mad :)
 
I got the g10 hardware in today, so I'll post results in a few hours as I've got kiddos and a wife to keep me from my toys.
 
Techpowerup does the best reviews. So many games tested and easy to read charts. Decisive victory over Fury X.
 
KickAssCop said:
Techpowerup does the best reviews. So many games tested and easy to read charts. Decisive victory over Fury X.
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But the Fury X is an overclocker's dream. Oh and the retail Fury X cards don't have any whine like the review samples. lol
 
Voxata said:
I got the g10 hardware in today, so I'll post results in a few hours as I've got kiddos and a wife to keep me from my toys.
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Let me know how it goes! I am curious if you will need a shim or longer screws. Are you planning on keeping the midplate and VRM plate? Backplate?

My card and G10 will all be here Monday, but I don't plan to put it all on until I have had a couple days to stress test the card. I would hate to get it all installed then find out it's defective (aka a low OC'er!).
 
Well, my card was temp limited.. I think' to 1450Mhz, as I would hit a whopping 85C thanks to my crappy HAF X case airflow. Now these pics are of my temps w/fans on LOW and pump on LOW. Turned up its in the mid 50's!!! It boosted to 1467 because of the temps I'm guessing, and I have NOT added any voltage yet. My ASIC is 71.1% and it would driver crash at 1500 Mhz before. Anyways, this is important, just pull the little foam off of the G10 backplate and then use the plate as-is on top of the stock 980Ti backplate as the VRM sinks etc are attached. I also tossed the sink spacer foam pieces as they seemed useless to me. Tighten down until its tight with barely any wiggle on the AIO and you're good to go (I did a first mount with a pea size to make sure it was making good contact, then cleaned it again and did my real application). No shim, no modding, nothing is required to get this to work. This was a VERY EASY installation.

** EDIT ** My card is now boosting over 1507Mhz stable at 95% power in Witcher 3, I need more time to test but it looks like I've got room to go higher no problem. It appears before my temps were holding back my OC BADLY. I'm at 60C at 1500Mhz at 80% fan & pump Witcher 3 overlooking the town. Before I couldn't touch the back of my card it was scolding hot, now I can touch it. Also I am now using the clear top panel for my HAF XB, which before added 6C to my temps and made the case much hotter...

** EDIT ** Sadly my card gets artifacts at 1540+, I like to keep it well below that range so I'll just be running it at 1507 24/7.







 
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Voxata said:
Well, my card was temp limited.. I think' to 1450Mhz, as I would hit a whopping 85C thanks to my crappy HAF X case airflow. Now these pics are of my temps w/fans on LOW and pump on LOW. Turned up its in the mid 50's!!! It boosted to 1467 because of the temps I'm guessing, and I have NOT added any voltage yet. My ASIC is 71.1% and it would driver crash at 1500 Mhz before. Anyways, this is important, just pull the little foam off of the G10 backplate and then use the plate as-is on top of the stock 980Ti backplate as the VRM sinks etc are attached. I also tossed the sink spacer foam pieces as they seemed useless to me. Tighten down until its tight with barely any wiggle on the AIO and you're good to go (I did a first mount with a pea size to make sure it was making good contact, then cleaned it again and did my real application). No shim, no modding, nothing is required to get this to work. This was a VERY EASY installation.

** EDIT ** My card is now boosting over 1507Mhz stable at 95% power in Witcher 3, I need more time to test but it looks like I've got room to go higher no problem. It appears before my temps were holding back my OC BADLY. I'm at 60C at 1500Mhz at 80% fan & pump Witcher 3 overlooking the town. Before I couldn't touch the back of my card it was scolding hot, now I can touch it. Also I am now using the clear top panel for my HAF XB, which before added 6C to my temps and made the case much hotter...

** EDIT ** Sadly my card gets artifacts at 1540+, I like to keep it well below that range so I'll just be running it at 1507 24/7.
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I am jealous!!!! I know someone on overclock.net has a bios for that 980ti MSI to give you 130 power, and no boost.

Would love to see what that card could do with 1.3v!
 
What temp are you all idling at? Mine idles at around 60C, but that's with the fans completely off. Why so hot? :confused:
 
DASHlT said:
I am jealous!!!! I know someone on overclock.net has a bios for that 980ti MSI to give you 130 power, and no boost.

Would love to see what that card could do with 1.3v!
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Thatd void my warranty for one, and theres no dual bios so... thats what I find riskier. So I'll pass.. itd probably top out at 1575ish and for that little boost.. not much point. Im very happy to be 1500+. Oh, my voltage read in Afterburner is 1.23 .
 
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Voxata said:
Thatd void my warranty for one, and theres no dual bios so... thats what I find riskier. So I'll pass.. itd probably top out at 1575ish and for that little boost.. not much point. Im very happy to be 1500+. Oh, my voltage read in Afterburner is 1.23 . Do you have a link to that thread?
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Naw just backup your bios you have on the card now, then you can flash back.

It's so damn easy to flash, I too was afraid to do it, but it really wasn't all that hard.

But I do agree with ya, if you are happy leave it be lol
 
ajm786 said:
What temp are you all idling at? Mine idles at around 60C, but that's with the fans completely off. Why so hot? :confused:
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Mine sits at 35-36 C at idle with fans off. Do you have more than one monitor? If so then i think that makes the clocks go up.
 
misterbobby said:
Mine sits at 35-36 C at idle with fans off. Do you have more than one monitor? If so then i think that makes the clocks go up.
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Yeah, that's it; I completely forgot that would affect it. :( I do indeed have dual monitors.

Oh well, at least it does clock up and down, unlike the GTX 570, which stays on 3D clocks all the time due to the dual monitors.

I fixed it by setting a custom fan curve. At 35% fan speed, it's still completely silent. I idle at 46C now. :D
 
DASHlT said:
Naw just backup your bios you have on the card now, then you can flash back.

It's so damn easy to flash, I too was afraid to do it, but it really wasn't all that hard.

But I do agree with ya, if you are happy leave it be lol
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Has he disclosed what clocks.he is hitting?
 
DASHlT said:
I am jealous!!!! I know someone on overclock.net has a bios for that 980ti MSI to give you 130 power, and no boost.

Would love to see what that card could do with 1.3v!
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If I could just have a 120% power limit then I could maintain over 1500 mhz. I am just too scared to mess with the BIOS though.
 
Well I did make it through Firestrike Ultra at 1524/7800 for a score of 4972. It was probably throttling like crazy in parts but I did not have Afterburner running as it can sometimes make Firestrike crash.
 
Voxata said:
Well, my card was temp limited.. I think' to 1450Mhz, as I would hit a whopping 85C thanks to my crappy HAF X case airflow. Now these pics are of my temps w/fans on LOW and pump on LOW. Turned up its in the mid 50's!!!
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Tell me everything! :D

How loud are the fans at low and full, on idle and load, especially compared to the stock cooler? Any pump noise? Where did you mount the radiator and is it mounted just like you'd mount a normal 120mm fan?
 
Cooler is mounted at the rear 120, push/pull w/the fans that came w/the H75. Its quite quiet really.. Quieter than the stock cooler at 100% by far. I have the fans and pump plugged into my motherboard and it was running very low (Since my chip is a delid cooled by an X61 presumably) so I adjusted it to 80% full time, not having any issues at all.. My 980Ti is much, MUCH happier like this.
 
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Cooler is mounted at the rear 120, push/pull w/the fans that came w/the H75. Its quite quiet really.. Quieter than the stock cooler at 100% by far. I have it plugged into my board and it was running very low so I adjusted it to 80% full time, not having any issues.
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Excellent, thanks for taking the plunge. I'll order myself the MSI, H55 and G10.

If the temps are good, a BIOS mod to get a higher power limit and slightly up the max voltages (Afterburner only reports up to 1.275 I think) might be a good next step. As long as you don't fuck it up by adding too much voltages etc you can always swap back the original BIOS without losing your warranty. Just remember to save the original first (either via GPU-Z or if that doesn't work then nvflash --save filename.rom).
 
I'm hitting 1500+ already, I don't really see a need to flash. I'll gain what.. 5 more FPS if I'm real lucky and be running my card full tilt? I'm happy where I'm at - I solved my heat/throttle problem :) Stupid HAF XB Evo case... Anyways, glad my post helped a few people confirm what benefits/fitting of the G10 on the MSI 980Ti 6G. Happy gaming all!
 
Voxata said:
I'm hitting 1500+ already, I don't really see a need to flash. I'll gain what.. 5 more FPS if I'm real lucky and be running my card full tilt? I'm happy where I'm at - I solved my heat/throttle problem :) Stupid HAF XB Evo case... Anyways, glad my post helped a few people confirm what benefits/fitting of the G10 on the MSI 980Ti 6G. Happy gaming all!
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About how much clearance between the G10 bracket and the midplate over the VRAM? Curious since you took off the foam spacers, and I was thinking about putting some heatsinks on that midplate. Also how high were you able to click your VRAM?
 
Are power limit and lower default clocks the truth on retail models? If yes, this is really bad.
 
That was debunked and a misprint, its untrue. There's a bit of space for a heat sink over the Vram, but the airflow isn't the greatest there... The plate does still get quite warm.
 
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That was debunked and a misprint, its untrue. There's a bit of space for a heat sink but.. I dunno... gotta be short. I won't pull it for a measure.
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What are you talking about? Retail cards most certainly have lower clocks and a lower power limit than the review cards.
 
I think I'm going to order one of these tonight from B&H. Anyone have any last minute caveats or issues I should know first? From reading this thread I don't see any downsides or anything.
 
Colonel Sanders said:
I think I'm going to order one of these tonight from B&H. Anyone have any last minute caveats or issues I should know first? From reading this thread I don't see any downsides or anything.
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So I guess you missed all the comments about it shipping with lower clocks and lower power limit than the review cards? :confused:
 
misterbobby said:
So I guess you missed all the comments about it shipping with lower clocks and lower power limit than the review cards? :confused:
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I should have qualified my post that I'm not worried about overclocking myself so the power limits or review sample differences don't bother me. As long as the clocks are what it says on the website then I'm fine.
 
Colonel Sanders said:
I should have qualified my post that I'm not worried about overclocking myself so the power limits or review sample differences don't bother me. As long as the clocks are what it says on the website then I'm fine.
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Again the card that reviewers got will be boosting higher than what you get. The review cards have the advertised OC clocks by default where the retail cards dont. You will have to manually OC your card to get to those clocks or download the silly gaming app and click on "OC" every time you re start your pc.
 
misterbobby said:
Again the card that reviewers got will be boosting higher than what you get. The review cards have the advertised OC clocks by default where the retail cards dont. You will have to manually OC your card to get to those clocks or download the silly gaming app and click on "OC" every time you re start your pc.
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Ahh, I gotcha. That is a bummer - might get the EVGA reference SC then because I hate having to use stupid third party software to change clocks.
 
Colonel Sanders said:
Ahh, I gotcha. That is a bummer - might get the EVGA reference SC then because I hate having to use stupid third party software to change clocks.
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Dear God, dont get the reference 980 SC. That thing was super hot and loud. I had to raise the power/temp limit just to keep it from throttling like crazy in demanding games.

And the MSI Gaming card runs much higher clocks out of the box and will maintain them even with no tweaking at all while being MUCH quieter. Even the EVGA ACX SC will still be running about 50 mhz lower than the retail MSI Gaming cards out of the box since you dont want to oc.
 
misterbobby said:
Dear God, dont get the reference 980 SC. That thing was super hot and loud. I had to raise the power/temp limit just to keep it from throttling like crazy in demanding games.

And the MSI Gaming card runs much higher clocks out of the box and will maintain them even with no tweaking at all while being MUCH quieter. Even the EVGA ACX SC will still be running about 50 mhz lower than the retail MSI Gaming cards out of the box since you dont want to oc.
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I thought the MSI runs the regular 1000/1075 clocks out of the box unlike the review samples?
 
Can't you just set clocks on evga precision x and then have them default on boot to MSI oc mode clocks. Seems like things are being blown out of proportion. Only issue is possibly power limit. A bios mod can fix that.
 
My card boosts to 1341 on stock settings, no buttons being clicked. Guess I have an elite version review sample huh? MSI may have fudged the power limit, that is to be seen. However, cards are still hitting 15-1550 pretty consistently just like the review samples regardless. The MSI 980Ti Gaming 6G is on par with the G1, runs a little warmer, but it is quieter and shorter.. also taller. However, the MSI card allows for G10 mounting with no additional sinking.
 
Voxata said:
My card boosts to 1341 on stock settings, no buttons being clicked. Guess I have an elite version review sample huh? MSI may have fudged the power limit, that is to be seen. However, cards are still hitting 15-1550 pretty consistently just like the review samples regardless.
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That is much better than anything I have read including boost on classified cards.
 
Voxata said:
My card boosts to 1341 on stock settings, no buttons being clicked. Guess I have an elite version review sample huh? MSI may have fudged the power limit, that is to be seen. However, cards are still hitting 15-1550 pretty consistently just like the review samples regardless. The MSI 980Ti Gaming 6G is on par with the G1, runs a little warmer, but it is quieter and shorter.. also taller. However, the MSI card allows for G10 mounting with no additional sinking.
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Sigh NO. Did anyone bother to read the techpowerup review? See my above reply to Colonel Sanders as your card is running the exact same clocks as the other retail cards.
 
1178 is under OC mode. You need the gaming app for the extra boost, similar to the G1.
 
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