Microsoft Interested In Buying AMD?

This just in, PowerVR returns to the desktop market in the wake of Microsoft's AMD purchase.


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J3RK said:
This just in, PowerVR returns to the desktop market in the wake of Microsoft's AMD purchase.


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Well, the Power chips were never really in the desktop environment outside of a few select workstation units, namely the Apple machines.
 
Trimlock said:
Well, the Power chips were never really in the desktop environment outside of a few select workstation units, namely the Apple machines.
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There were actually several Kyro based cards available in the mainstream add in market, not to mention earlier attempts with the M3D and the other PCX1 and 2 based cards. Not huge, but that was kind of my joke. However, they were indeed in those markets, and even had some pretty big partners for a while.
 
J3RK said:
There were actually several Kyro based cards available in the mainstream add in market, not to mention earlier attempts with the M3D and the other PCX1 and 2 based cards. Not huge, but that was kind of my joke. However, they were indeed in those markets, and even had some pretty big partners for a while.
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Hercules, VideoLogic, Matrox, and a few others made them.
 
Sorry for four posts in a row. I would have edited if I could. I was thinking GPUs, and you were thinking CPUs. So... I suppose IBM and PowerVR need to team up for the ALL-POWER Platform then. :D
 
J3RK said:
This just in, PowerVR returns to the desktop market in the wake of Microsoft's AMD purchase.


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:D:D:D:D:D:D awesome...



There are lots of crazy fun things that could happen. They usually don't, but they are sometimes fun to think about.

MS buys AMD, losing the rights to whatever AMD has from Intel, so they create a new standard(on the new cpu called bullpiledriverpusherexploder), MS only writes the next Windows for the new AMD CPU architecture and optimizes it like crazy, Intel falls off the desktop/laptop market since Linux just can't manage to catch on with consumers. That's a fun thought. Meanwhile 90% of the tech using population of the world looks up from their mobile device and goes "huh" and looks back down at whatever they were doing. Nobody but us cares anymore. And it's wearing thin for me personally.

I still don't think AMD is that bad off, other than financially lol.. The hardware is plenty "good enough" for 90% of people and we all know it if we manage to lower our noses a hair, they just can't seem to market or sell it worth a damn. Same with the Fury Xyzwhatever just came out, it's a nice card in a lot of ways, the 980ti is faster, is anyone really surprised? Every new card doesn't HAVE to be the fastest of the fast. Every new car isn't faster than the last one, right? It's pretty, it's got a neat cooler, it's way more than fast enough for the masses still on 1080p, it's a goodly jump faster than the 290x, yet again they marketed the expectations through the roof and now everyone is PO'd. The rebrands are plenty fast too, so is a 290x from a couple years ago, progress ain't what it used to be on all fronts. It's price and marketing, and AMD hasn't been killing it on those fronts.


Maybe MS can help, they seem to have figured out nobody wants to pay for Windows anymore. GPU/CPU as a service? $x per month to unlock however many shaders/cores you happen to need right now?
 
This would be interesting for a couple of reasons.

1) AMD chips are in the PS4

2) Microsoft DX12 could heavily favor AMD if MS buys them

3) If MS goes all in on AMD you could see Windows support for nvidia to decrease, meaning you might see more support from developers for Linux platforms and nvidia and OpenGL.

Obviously money wouldn't be an issue for MS either.

I'd personally like to see MS buy AMD, Sega, and Capcom. :)
 
J3RK said:
There were actually several Kyro based cards available in the mainstream add in market, not to mention earlier attempts with the M3D and the other PCX1 and 2 based cards. Not huge, but that was kind of my joke. However, they were indeed in those markets, and even had some pretty big partners for a while.
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Still have my kyro 2...
Wish they would return to desktop market but this time with hardware TnL
 
Yes, it seems pretty weird. But Microsoft has bought a lot of other companies with no clear reasoning (and failed badly half the time). If they do buy AMD and shut down everything that they don't want they could save $100/Xbox One in licensing fees which would pay for AMD quite quickly. The real question is does Microsoft want the possibility of another failed takeover, like Nokia, where they bought them out and proceeded to run them into the ground. AMD is already run into the ground so it's possible that's not an issue.
 
Everyone is interested in buying AMD ... because it's a cheap buy at $2.xx a share.

But honestly, Microsoft buying AMD would be a disaster. If they did, then you'd know that they would use AMD for their Surface products and cut Intel and nVidia loose. Further, Intel and nVidia, the 2 companies that the VAST majority of what people use for CPU's and video cards, would suffer as Microsoft would give priority to "themselves" (aka AMD).

No, I don't think it would be wise to allow Microsoft, the worlds provider of OS's, to buy either AMD, or Intel, or nVidia.

Samsung should by the graphics division of AMD (aka ATI).
 
N1GHTRA1N said:
This would be interesting for a couple of reasons.

1) AMD chips are in the PS4

2) Microsoft DX12 could heavily favor AMD if MS buys them

3) If MS goes all in on AMD you could see Windows support for nvidia to decrease, meaning you might see more support from developers for Linux platforms and nvidia and OpenGL.

Obviously money wouldn't be an issue for MS either.

I'd personally like to see MS buy AMD, Sega, and Capcom. :)
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why are people so desperate for linux to take off? Its not going to happen. Even in MS bought AMD Nvidia is not STUPID enough to boycott 90+% of its market, and linux will NEVER see the usage windows does
 
amdgamer said:
If this rumor became true, I would be so happy for AMD/ATI but sad for Microsoft as I am not sure they are capable of waging so many different wars on so many fronts.
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They'd, AMD, more then likely be driven into the ground.
 
VladDracule said:
why are people so desperate for linux to take off? Its not going to happen. Even in MS bought AMD Nvidia is not STUPID enough to boycott 90+% of its market, and linux will NEVER see the usage windows does
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Someone obviously doesn't know much about OSX, and today's android systems. *NIX systems are far superior operating systems than Windows will ever be. Surely, Windows will slothily fade once Billy Goat dies.

In a few decades/century I'm sure you'll be heading to the doctors office signing up for a foot transplant.

The ONLY reason Windows has such a huge market share is because everyone's grandmother develops programs solely for the Windows platform. It took a couple decades for OSX to catch up to Micro$hit, and it's now a very versatile operating system. The only thing I don't like about OSX and *NIX based systems is that MOST of the applications I use for CAD and others are developed solely for Windows, some of the applications, as for personal computing, in *NIX are difficult to use, poorly designed, and clunky. and I'm not too fond of the OSX mouse settings.

Another thing... *NIX systems run 90% of the modern worlds infrastructure. Windows systems are mostly used in business offices, conglomerates, and homes.

You'll never see Windows running the Star Ship Enterprise!
 
Parja said:
Well, there's this pesky little detail that would get in the way of anyone purchasing AMD. They'll have to get Intel's permission (by way of an updated agreement with the purchasing company) or AMD's right to make x86 devices goes *poof*.
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After glancing at that agreement, if you should every happen upon a Genie make sure you hire these lawyers before making those three wishes lol.
 
valis1 said:
Someone obviously doesn't know much about OSX, and today's android systems. *NIX systems are far superior operating systems than Windows will ever be. Surely, Windows will slothily fade once Billy Goat dies.

In a few decades/century I'm sure you'll be heading to the doctors office signing up for a foot transplant.

The ONLY reason Windows has such a huge market share is because everyone's grandmother develops programs solely for the Windows platform. It took a couple decades for OSX to catch up to Micro$hit, and it's now a very versatile operating system. The only thing I don't like about OSX and *NIX based systems is that MOST of the applications I use for CAD and others are developed solely for Windows, some of the applications, as for personal computing, in *NIX are difficult to use, poorly designed, and clunky. and I'm not too fond of the OSX mouse settings.

Another thing... *NIX systems run 90% of the modern worlds infrastructure. Windows systems are mostly used in business offices, conglomerates, and homes.

You'll never see Windows running the Star Ship Enterprise!
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just like youll never see linux running on 99% of home computers
 
VladDracule said:
why are people so desperate for linux to take off? Its not going to happen. Even in MS bought AMD Nvidia is not STUPID enough to boycott 90+% of its market, and linux will NEVER see the usage windows does
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Although I agree it is unlikely that MS would purchase AMD and isolate their OS to just AMD products, they could certainly optimize it to run better on those products or have features on those products that are not available for Intel or NVidia ... even though this is unlikely, it would be suicidal for Intel and NVidia to ignore the possibility so they would need to expand their support of and connections to competing OS vendors for insurance (if nothing else) ... whether those vendors are Linux or Apple doesn't really matter ... that said, I find a merger of this sort extremely unlikely
 
If nothing else, these rumors make great "what if" threads. :D
 
valis1 said:
Clearly know nothing. Linux is in more homes as a personal computer as you think, do your research.
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I don't think it counts if the user does not know they are using it.
(spoken as a happy frequent desktop Linux user)

Until they have equal billing on the computer section of Best Buy, they ain't there imo.
And MacOS don't count either.
 
valis1 said:
Clearly know nothing. Linux is in more homes as a personal computer as you think, do your research.
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http://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=10&qpcustomd=0.

Lets see, all windows versions adds to ~90%, mac osx adds another 4%, oh and theres lowly little linux at 1.6%

Yeah, its not happening, ever, period, get over it. Linux as an OS IS NOT DESIGNED for the masses. its just flat out not, and the vast majority of people have no clue how to even use a command line.

Oh, and for the record, i use linux regularly, and have it as either a VM or dual booted on every single one of my computers, so yes, i do know linux, probably better than you seeing as how a portion of my income is done with linux.
 
Oh good, Linux versus Windows has come into the thread. :rolleyes:

Well, there went all the fun PowerPC, PowerVR, and other such discussion...
 
Ramses said:
I don't think it counts if the user does not know they are using it.
(spoken as a happy frequent desktop Linux user)

Until they have equal billing on the computer section of Best Buy, they ain't there imo.
And MacOS don't count either.
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Sadly, it doesn't count, but ought to. *NIX is more versatile than Windows will ever be.


VladDracule said:
Linux as an OS IS NOT DESIGNED for the masses. its just flat out not, and the vast majority of people have no clue how to even use a command line.
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Thank you for proving my point... clearly unaware.
 
valis1 said:
Sadly, it doesn't count, but ought to. *NIX is more versatile than Windows will ever be.




Thank you for proving my point... clearly unaware.
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I may be unaware of another random ass linux distro but your clueless. Nvidia will never abandon windows, plain and simple. Linux will never replace it. Foresight is not your strong suite
 
valis1 said:
Sadly, it doesn't count, but ought to. *NIX is more versatile than Windows will ever be.




Thank you for proving my point... clearly unaware.
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BTW, for the record, Nix is not an OS, NixOS on the other hand is an OS built on the Nix package manager which was built for package distribution, it doesnt change the user friendliness of actually USING linux, just updating it
 
J3RK said:
Oh good, Linux versus Windows has come into the thread. :rolleyes:

Well, there went all the fun PowerPC, PowerVR, and other such discussion...
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Well if someone compares MS buying AMD to Hitler annexing Austria or something we will be in a perfect internet place :)
 
VladDracule said:
BTW, for the record, Nix is not an OS, NixOS on the other hand is an OS built on the Nix package manager which was built for package distribution, it doesnt change the user friendliness of actually USING linux, just updating it
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Wow your head is obviously filled with rocks. *NIX (asterisk+NIX) refers to Unix/Linux kernel.
 
valis1 said:
Wow your head is obviously filled with rocks. *NIX (asterisk+NIX) refers to Unix/Linux kernel.
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Every single Linux is including android is built off the kernel which proves everything your saying is pure BS. Your arguing that a kernel is more flexible than an OS...well no shit but the kernel isn't even usable unless an OS is built on it. The only reason that would show an increase in usage stats would be because of android not desktop oses which means my point about usage numbers still stands. You can't compare android or other software built using a Linux kerbal is the same as people using an actual Linux distro' it doesn't work that way
 
J3RK said:
OS2/Warp.

Discuss.


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I loved the crap out of Warp4, it's been so long I can't remember why I ended up in Windows, but it was probly either hardware drivers or software availability. Which sounds a lot like Windows/Linux, might be a pattern there.

Also, BeOS!

BEgin Discussing :)
 
kbrickley said:
I think we should replace one multinational behemoth with another, Chrome OS all the way ... Kneel before our Google Overlords :cool:
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I've enjoyed my $100(used) chromebook more than any other piece of hardware I've bought in the last decade, easily. Largely because I just USE the thing, and in no small part because I don't care if it site in the shop playing netflix while I blow sparks and grinding dust all over it.
I have a thousand dollar dGPU i7 17" SSD'd laptop that site on my desk and does nothing because I'm afraid I'll break it lol...

No updates, no drivers, no fuss, no muss, just using it. That might be an enthusiasts later life kinda problem, but I'm thrilled with the silly little thing.
 
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