Batman: Arkham Knight

I guess I'll try verifying, though I did read it sometimes deletes all your shit.

Thanks guys.

Update - 4,500 files were fucked up it looks like, so it's redownloading.

MorgothPl said:
WB marketing boss trolling players on forums. This is new point of low. Even Ubisoft didn't do something like that:

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That's a new low for sure...fuck these guys.
 
So played the game a bit more. Set Max fps to 144 and also running SLi. Game runs fine for the most part except when bat mobile passes through tons of debris and stuff. I am getting mostly 48-60 fps. I think if I turn off SLi and vsync it may run better.

On gameplay controlling bat mobile through mouse and keyboard is a nightmare. I think I am going to switch to a controller. Rest game is good this far.

On textures, some of them look like horse shit on my screen. Seriously we still have this bad textures. I am stumped. Also I only get normal textures in the menu which is bullshit.
 
MorgothPl said:
WB marketing boss trolling players on forums. This is new point of low. Even Ubisoft didn't do something like that:

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Ok I fired this thing up myself:

Verify file integrity is a must. I think preloads were messed up for some people. Just do it everyone!


1920x1200 maxed out vsync off the in game benchmark...for whatever that's worth... has me going down to about 45fps at worse case scenario. GTX 780 353.30 drivers.


About to go into game and see what happens.
 
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MorgothPl said:
WB marketing boss trolling players on forums. This is new point of low. Even Ubisoft didn't do something like that:

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This is not verified. Even if it were true, he is in television and not a part of WB Interactive. Still, though, not good form for an executive, and one from marketing should know better.

Keep in mind that this was also posted on NeoGAF. It could be a false flag to rile up a certain consumer revolt.
 
Just gave it a try for about 10-15 minutes to see what's going on, i don't have time to play it today. It's weird how this game runs. I just went in there and maxed everything, gameworks everything is on.
Performance bench min 50, max 96, ave. 68
In game according to Precision X i'm not going over 32 fps, gpu usage not going over 33 percent, and memory went from 4.2 or so from start, to 6.05 about 10 minutes later. No stuttering or anything, ran smooth, but according to numbers it should run like shit. Don't know what to make of it.

Running on 1080p

But man, that rain is really, really freaking gorgeous. I want it in every game from now on :D
 
GibsonEX said:
Just gave it a try for about 10-15 minutes to see what's going on, i don't have time to play it today. It's weird how this game runs. I just went in there and maxed everything, gameworks everything is on.
Performance bench min 50, max 96, ave. 68
In game according to Precision X i'm not going over 32 fps, gpu usage not going over 33 percent, and memory went from 4.2 or so from start, to 6.05 about 10 minutes later. No stuttering or anything, ran smooth, but according to numbers it should run like shit. Don't know what to make of it.

But man, that rain is really, really freaking gorgeous. I want it in every game from now on :D
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I'm betting Precision is a lot more "precise" if you will pardon the obvious pun. I'm going to run FRAPS.
 
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GibsonEX said:
Just gave it a try for about 10-15 minutes to see what's going on, i don't have time to play it today. It's weird how this game runs. I just went in there and maxed everything, gameworks everything is on.
Performance bench min 50, max 96, ave. 68
In game according to Precision X i'm not going over 32 fps, gpu usage not going over 33 percent, and memory went from 4.2 or so from start, to 6.05 about 10 minutes later. No stuttering or anything, ran smooth, but according to numbers it should run like shit. Don't know what to make of it.

Running on 1080p

But man, that rain is really, really freaking gorgeous. I want it in every game from now on :D
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You have to change the max FPS in the config files, as the game is locked to 30 FPS by default. With a 980 Ti you should be getting 50-60 FPS most of the time in-game with all the graphics settings on and at their highest.
 
Armenius said:
With a 980 Ti you should be getting 50-60 FPS most of the time in-game with all the graphics settings on and at their highest.
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Anyone else find that a bit depressing? :D

Maybe I'll sit on the Nvidia free game code for a while longer; still playing way too many games to sink time into this one given its current state.
 
ghostwich said:
Anyone else find that a bit depressing? :D

Maybe I'll sit on the Nvidia free game code for a while longer; still playing way too many games to sink time into this one given its current state.
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Not really. The fastest card shouldn't really be able to fully max a game out at 60fps. There was a time (back in the olden days), developers thought of the future, and optimized games to take advantage of future hardware.
 
30fps 'lock', gameworks stank, suits talking trash. Not touching this till the $4.99 GOTY edition joins the rest of the series on Steam.
 
I'm of the opinion that the fastest cards should be able to max out a game at 60fps...at least at 1080p. Planning for the future is more like planning for when the game will be $5 on Steam and any community a game has had will have long since dried up. The future can be all about maxing the game out in 4K instead.
 
BiH115 said:
Not really. The fastest card shouldn't really be able to fully max a game out at 60fps. There was a time (back in the olden days), developers thought of the future, and optimized games to take advantage of future hardware.
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And that is what kept PC gaming from being mainstream. Poor thought process when it came to optimization. That way of thinking is so backwards to me that it made me go to consoles for a few years. I think the game FEAR is what made me so angry.
 
Domingo said:
I'm of the opinion that the fastest cards should be able to max out a game at 60fps...at least at 1080p. Planning for the future is more like planning for when the game will be $5 on Steam and any community a game has had will have long since dried up. The future can be all about maxing the game out in 4K instead.
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This is my opinion as well. It's silly for a Dev to aim for hardware that isn't released yet. Your duty should be delivering a great looking and performing product for the hardware now, not something years from now. I hated the way Crytek did that. I basically ignored their games for years. A dev shouldn't do that.
 
BiH115 said:
Not really. The fastest card shouldn't really be able to fully max a game out at 60fps. There was a time (back in the olden days), developers thought of the future, and optimized games to take advantage of future hardware.
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New hardware comes out in longer periods now though compared to then. Plus we have a lot bigger resolution, at 1080p if a top end card can't max everything that's for multi monitor or 4k then that's just getting sad.

Was thinking of picking this up this week,but I'll just keep tabs on it awhile until performance gets smoothed out more.
 
twonunpackmule said:
This is my opinion as well. It's silly for a Dev to aim for hardware that isn't released yet. Your duty should be delivering a great looking and performing product for the hardware now, not something years from now. I hated the way Crytek did that. I basically ignored their games for years. A dev shouldn't do that.
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Then set your settings lower. This is why Crytek didn't release an HD texture pack till much later, because people bitched they couldn't run the game on high and called it "bad optimization". No it's called planning for the future so your game stays relevant and it worked. Crysis sat on the benchmark list for years before becoming irrelevant. If I need Quad SLI 980 Ti's to run at 60 FPS then I guess I'll enjoy it at ultra in a few years.
 
BiH115 said:
Not really. The fastest card shouldn't really be able to fully max a game out at 60fps. There was a time (back in the olden days), developers thought of the future, and optimized games to take advantage of future hardware.
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Hard to optimize for something that doesn't exist. You ended up with games like Crysis, which looked great, but still can't run properly. I get similar frame rates in games released this past year as I do in Crysis. And it looks rather dated now. Although it still looks good enough in some areas. By the time you can get acceptable frame rates, the graphics will look subpar anyways.

And the only people who liked that were people who bought hardware for the sake of buying hardware. In reality, they don't even need games and can just run their worthless benchmark programs. For those of us that play games, quality software that is optimized for current hardware is ideal.

NickJames said:
Then set your settings lower.
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I remember those days. When you'd turn down the settings the games would look worse than games optimized for current hardware. Lower graphics/frames up front, poor optimization with poor graphics compared to contemporary games at a later date. And from a developer standpoint, prettier graphics don't increase sales 2-3 years down the road.
 
Armenius said:
You have to change the max FPS in the config files, as the game is locked to 30 FPS by default. With a 980 Ti you should be getting 50-60 FPS most of the time in-game with all the graphics settings on and at their highest.
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Thanks for the tip, just tried it again for few minutes with max frames set to 120, and now it looks like it's matching my performance bench, lowest i've seen was 48 with around 60-65 being average. I'll follow it more closely when i have longer gaming session.
 
Too many quotes to take care of, but I basically meant for the much higher resolutions. 1080P should be completely doable with today's top end cards, and for the most part, that's how it is.

Just kind of reminiscing back to when that was a thing. It doesn't seem that today that's the case, though we definitely still have poorly optimized games all around.

Update - after reinstalling the game after verifying on steam, it still minimizes and the sound stutters. I'm about done putting in effort to get this running on either of my two machines.
 
BiH115 said:
Too many quotes to take care of, but I basically meant for the much higher resolutions. 1080P should be completely doable with today's top end cards, and for the most part, that's how it is.

Just kind of reminiscing back to when that was a thing. It doesn't seem that today that's the case, though we definitely still have poorly optimized games all around.

Update - after reinstalling the game after verifying on steam, it still minimizes and the sound stutters. I'm about done putting in effort to get this running on either of my two machines.
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At thins point I'd say if you bought it on Steam just do a refund and if it ever gets sorted out buy it again, probably for a cheaper price by then.
 
I'm feeling lucky so far and I feel bad for my friend BiH (and others). :(

I was mistaken about my settings... long/short: maxed out, 1920x1200, GTX 780 latest drivers I'm getting somewhere around the high 30s on average. FPS cap is set to 60. It fluctuates but that's more or less what I'm looking at.

If you can get the game to work it's pretty damned good.
 
Derangel said:
At thins point I'd say if you bought it on Steam just do a refund and if it ever gets sorted out buy it again, probably for a cheaper price by then.
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Yeah this is pretty much a pile of horseshit for me. I'm sure the game is great, but not being able to actually play it makes it an eyesore in my steam library.

Edit: It works now...had to set it it to windowed on both my 4K monitor on my desktop, and my laptop as well, then go in and change the resolution like that. I hate that crap.
 
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BiH115 said:
Yeah this is pretty much a pile of horseshit for me. I'm sure the game is great, but not being able to actually play it makes it an eyesore in my steam library.

Edit: It works now...had to set it it to windowed on both my 4K monitor on my desktop, and my laptop as well, then go in and change the resolution like that. I hate that crap.
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Time to take a nap! :mad:

;)
 
NickJames said:
Then set your settings lower. This is why Crytek didn't release an HD texture pack till much later, because people bitched they couldn't run the game on high and called it "bad optimization". No it's called planning for the future so your game stays relevant and it worked. Crysis sat on the benchmark list for years before becoming irrelevant. If I need Quad SLI 980 Ti's to run at 60 FPS then I guess I'll enjoy it at ultra in a few years.
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That's just a silly mindset and it's no wonder that Crytek had financial trouble. Who is going to sit on a game for years and years until it runs well? Aren't we bitching about games that don't run well on release and not preordering them because of it?
 
I'm getting crazy stuttering with the newest nV drivers and a i7-975x and 760. I may just hang out for little bit while the bugs get ironed out. I'm not liking the experience so far and I just got past the intro.
 
"4553 files failed to validate and will be reacquired"

lol

This is quite amusing. I think i'll try and catch up on my game backlog before I get to this!
 
Instead of setting the max FPS to 9999 - does setting it to 60 work?
 
polonyc2 said:
is Rocksteady going to do what Ubisoft did and give everyone free DLC or a free game?...this is on par with AC: Unity's release
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Well, they could start by reversing their jewing of Nvidia code redeemers and putting the Harley Quinn DLC back in their libraries.
 
I didn't have time to mess around with the game much, but from the 1 hour i had last night, with my gtx 780 and 2500k set-up on 1080p, the game was running semi-decent to decent at times of just flying around

Gliding down, here and there, fighting some thugs, low to mid 40's here and there, no problem, it was more than playable.

THEN I WENT INTO THE BATMOBILE AND TOTAL DISASTER.

FRAME DIPPAGE TO THE LOW 20's. I unticked the last 2 Gamework features and only kept PhYSX and the other Ambient/Fog feature on.


It was like driving a 1998 simulator on drugs.

Due to the fact that i have a 780(which i didn't get a chance to overclock yet because i just recently did a fresh install on Win 8.1) I realize I'm not going to be able to crank everything up.

But how do GTX 980 users still have this issue with performance? I would think that I'm having problems because Physx is too much drain and my card isn't up to par.


Because it may seem like a terrible optimization, here and there, but with the right set-up, shouldn't this game be smooth for people who have beast computers?
 
Whach said:
"4553 files failed to validate and will be reacquired"

lol

This is quite amusing. I think i'll try and catch up on my game backlog before I get to this!
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Or you could verify file integrity, get those files, and then play the game.


HamHB said:
I didn't have time to mess around with the game much, but from the 1 hour i had last night, with my gtx 780 and 2500k set-up on 1080p, the game was running semi-decent to decent at times of just flying around

Gliding down, here and there, fighting some thugs, low to mid 40's here and there, no problem, it was more than playable.

THEN I WENT INTO THE BATMOBILE AND TOTAL DISASTER.

FRAME DIPPAGE TO THE LOW 20's. I unticked the last 2 Gamework features and only kept PhYSX and the other Ambient/Fog feature on.


It was like driving a 1998 simulator on drugs.

Due to the fact that i have a 780(which i didn't get a chance to overclock yet because i just recently did a fresh install on Win 8.1) I realize I'm not going to be able to crank everything up.

But how do GTX 980 users still have this issue with performance? I would think that I'm having problems because Physx is too much drain and my card isn't up to par.


Because it may seem like a terrible optimization, here and there, but with the right set-up, shouldn't this game be smooth for people who have beast computers?
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You and I are close. I'm going to switch out my 780 for a 980Ti tomorrow and expect a world of difference. In the mean time I'll probably do the same thing you did.

Yes, people with "beast" computers should be kicking ass but apparently that isn't the case across the boards.
 
Glad I don't have cap on data.... Preloaded 33 GB yesterday, only to do, what you guys advised, and verified the file - now I have to redownload the game. Would suck at my former ISP, and still suck for people with slower/limited connections.
 
twonunpackmule said:
That's just a silly mindset and it's no wonder that Crytek had financial trouble. Who is going to sit on a game for years and years until it runs well? Aren't we bitching about games that don't run well on release and not preordering them because of it?
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Aren't we also bitching about games being dumbed down for console standards and not living up to their original graphical fidelity as originally shown? It's a 2 way street, some people like to drive their old Hondas and others like the luxury of a Ferrari, I just prefer to take a maglev.
 
MorgothPl said:
Glad I don't have cap on data.... Preloaded 33 GB yesterday, only to do, what you guys advised, and verified the file - now I have to redownload the game. Would suck at my former ISP, and still suck for people with slower/limited connections.
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I have to redownload as well. I was able to launch the game but I have an ultra wide-screen monitor and it doesn't adjust for the 21:9 aspect ratio. The game is all stretched out and looks like shit. Does anyone know if there's a way to adjust the AR in the .ini files or something?
 
Well, I've had no issues so far, but I had forgotten that it was even being released today so I didn't preload it. Also, I'm on an old nvidia driver. 347.88. I downloaded 353.30 but there seems to be a lot of negativity about it so I didn't bother installing it.

My only complaint so far is that they changed the default controls for using a 360 controller. Left Bumper used to bring up detective vision, but now you have to press up on the D pad, which means you have to stop moving because you have to take your thumb off of the left stick to move it to the D pad. Not a huge deal, but I don't see any reason for the change. Also, you have to bring up a menu to change gadgets? That doesn't seem very fluid.
 
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