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The PC-Q17WX was not designed by LianLi. It was allegedly designed for a crowdfunding campaign by ROG employees and LianLi was just the first manufacturer to deliver a prototype. So because ROG and LianLi are well-known brands, they decided to brand the case as a collaboration of both, probably to convince people that the case will be of high quality, as mos LianLi cases are.
That case is quite different in design and as Necere said, lacks a lot of the flexibility the M1 has.
http://imagescdn.tweaktown.com/news...elf-complete-asus-rog-themed-custom-build.jpg
A tempered glass side panel add on for the M1 (v4 and v3 compatible) pretty please with sugar on top.
I took the plunge and purchased a Dark Rock TF for my new build with a Asus Z97I-Plus. If there any clearance issues I'll post back on here.
Just to reiterate what everyone else has said, the case really needs to be designed with a window in mind from the outset. For the M1, airflow and component layout would have to be drastically different for a window to be accommodated, and it would entail some serious sacrifices either in terms of size or component support.A tempered glass side panel add on for the M1 (v4 and v3 compatible) pretty please with sugar on top.
Hi everyone. I'm looking to upgrade my video card and am seeking advice in the M1. Currently running a blower-style EVGA GTX 760, and it's both noisy and no longer offering the performance I'd like. Could anyone out there recommend a current-gen GPU setup in the M1 that is both quiet and powerful?
A few details: I'm looking for something at least as powerful as a 970 and as quiet at idle as possible, but am open to suggestions and have no particular allegiance to Nvidia. Silence at idle is more important to me than maximizing power, but I don't mind at all if it roars under load. Still running at 1080p and not planning to move to 4k for a while yet. I'd prefer an out-of-the-box solution; custom-WC-ing a video card is a bit above my level of commitment, but I'd be willing to add a couple of case fans if that would help. I've had great experiences with EVGA in the past and would consider something from them, but this card is quite noisy. Any tips would be much appreciated!
My current setup:
Core i5 2500K
Noctua NH-C14 w NF-P14r redux-1500 PWM
Asus P8Z77-i deluxe
8 GB Corsair Vengeance
EVGA GTX 760 (blower, non-superclocked)
Samsung 840 EVO 500 GB
Silverstone SX-600g
Quick question, I built a PC in the (v2) M1 around a year ago.
At the moment I'm using a
-VII Impact
-SX600G
-4670K with a Thermalright axp-100
-Palit 970 reference
Anyway, the noise of the whole thing is driving me up the wall.
What can I buy to sort this out? Its definitely the 970 making the most noise.
I was looking at the Kraken G10, or the Corsair HG10. Maybe I can replace the CPU cooler with an AIO as well?
Are you sure that it's the 970? the sx600g should be way louder..
Oh, maybe it is. Is there much to be done about that? At the the I think the sx600g was my best option.
Just to be clear we're talking about idle now, not under load?
No sorry this is under load, when playing something like GTAV it sounds like its about to take off. Idling everything is quite reasonable.
Then the 970 might be the loudest part.
Ok, and using a good pair of headphones, maybe closed ones, isn't an option?
Are you talking about the PC-Q17WX? I don't know if I'd say it's "based on" the M1... there are some obvious influences, but some significant differences as well. The layout looks fairly different and it appears to lack much of the flexibility the M1 has. At best you could say it was inspired by the M1.
For the record, we had nothing to do with it, contrary to what the articles seem to imply. No one from Lian Li or ASUS ever spoke to us about it.
I'm sure the Fury will be a popular card in this case, and there shouldn't be any mounting issues, as people have already fit water cooled Nvidia cards in their systems.Hi there guys! I've been looking at the NCase for quite a while now, and I'm absolutely in love with it. I love the aesthetic of it, and it looks incredibly high quality. The form factor is also incredibly, and since I'm demoing the Oculus Rift a whole bunch I'd love a small and portable case to carry my computer in. As a prospective buyer, I'm also wondering about what to put in it, especially with the release of the Fury cards not too far away, which look to be absolutely fabulous for this sort of thing.
Any of you guys considered a Fury build? Do you think there would be any mounting problems with the Fury X?
Finally, to Necere: is there going to be a v5 released soon, or should I just buy the v4 right now?
Cheers!
I'm sure the Fury will be a popular card in this case, and there shouldn't be any mounting issues, as people have already fit water cooled Nvidia cards in their systems.
Also, the v4 that is currently open to orders is the first production run of it, so buy this version. The v4 is so new that they haven't even shipped yet.
Are there any other good mounting alternatives for pumps other then the CPU pump? Are there any res pumps or radiator pumps that fit?
Oh, one more thing. What are the recommended cooling options for an NCase, both air and water wise?
Thanks again!
Have you checked out the Google docs spreadsheet?
If you can post photos or your findings in either regard that would be great. It's not looking likely I will build anything before Skylake arrives.
I'm also getting a NH-D9L in (with an additional fan), so I'll be playing around with both it and the Dark Rock TF in the future. If no one has posted their findings by that point, I'll be sure to chime in regarding both with respect to mounting, clearance, and cooling implications.
my reference gtx 970 works great. it can be silent, or it can be a jet engine. depends on what kind of temps you are comfortable with.
No Hands, thanks for the tip. I'll definitely consider a reference or reference-ish 970. I'm fine with the card getting a bit hot (80's C?) from time to time as long as it's powerful and quiet at idle. I've never considered myself a noise snob, and I was fine with the axial cooler 760 I used to have until the performance couldn't keep up, but the idle noise of this blower card (which I got via replacement for free) is driving me bananas. Even a "whooshing" sound at the same db would probably be okay, but this is a pretty grating, mechanical whirr that goes constantly while system is running.
The hybrid cards coming out seem to be made for someone like me: big performance, low noise, cool, and you get watercooling without all the fuss or warranty issues of a custom job. I'm liking the reviews of the 980 ti hybrid and looking forward to the Fury X, but would something like this even be possible in the M1? Anybody out there managed to cram maybe a R9 295x2 or a 980 (non-ti) hybrid into the M1 (don't see any comments on the spreadsheet)? In the Hardware Canucks review video (2:49) of the EVGA 980 Hybrid, Dmitry demonstrates that the card fits in the M1 with the rad mounted to the 120 mm slot on the fan bracket over the motherboard, but doing so would occlude many of the cpu coolers people here have been using, including mine (Noctua NH-C14).
Quick question, I built a PC in the (v2) M1 around a year ago.
At the moment I'm using a
-VII Impact
-SX600G
-4670K with a Thermalright axp-100
-Palit 970 reference
Anyway, the noise of the whole thing is driving me up the wall.
What can I buy to sort this out? Its definitely the 970 making the most noise.
I was looking at the Kraken G10, or the Corsair HG10. Maybe I can replace the CPU cooler with an AIO as well?
I haven't heard of anyone attempting it. I think the main problem would be figuring out where to mount the PSU, since it's normally mounted up front and Shuttle boards are much longer than mini-ITX.
Some people have asked about whether video cards with integrated closed-loop liquid coolers would fit in the M1, and as part of Hardware Canucks review of the EVGA GTX 980 Hybrid they just did, they tried it and it fits:
Haven't finished building my system, but the Dark Rock TF doesn't fit on the Asus Z97I-Plus board without hitting the ram, heatsink, or gpu in any direction that the cooler is facing. Big letdown. Pulled my AIO Corsair h100i from my tower. Hopefully I can get that to fit. I'm afraid that trying to get the Dark Rock to fit may have pushed my ram a little bit too far and caused some damage to the socket. Let's hope not! If the heat pipes were just a few mm over it would have fit perfectly.
If you are willing to procure different ram, you can consider these options:
Crucial Ballistix Sport VLP (Very Low Profile) - 1600 mhz, 1.35V, 9-9-9-24 - 18mm height (lower than DIMM retention clips height)
Crucial Ballistix Tactical LP (Low Profile) - 1600mhz, 1.35V, 8-8-8-24 - 25mm height
The difference in size between the two is the Tactial set has a small heatspreader. It is still 5mm lower than a standard module.
The top heatsink extends past the rear IO ports as well as hitting the ram.
Where they push against the side of the ram is crucial. A standard DIMM is 30mm in height. VLP is 18mm. That's 12mm or 1.2cm of difference. If the pipes are really low to the board though, it won't matter.
Note that stuff like Corsair who calls their stuff "LP" is not actually LP. That's just their name for standard DIMM height because of their modules with stupidly high heatsinks like the dominator platinum.