Intel Announces $125M Fund For Startups Run By Women, Minorities

I think most of you guys are forgetting about what a press release is all about. It's not necessarily about the most critical part of their business (it rarely is --- don't want to jitter the stock price) but if released from the inside is ALWAYS intended to make them look good.

Intel surely spends much larger gobs of cash on businesses run by "majorities" but it doesn't make for as good of pub so you don't hear about it.

Interesting does not mean important. Everyday we do important things that aren't interesting and vice versa.
 
kohl said:
“We believe a diverse and inclusive workplace is fundamental to delivering business results,” said Intel CEO Brian Krzanich.

Mr. Krzanich is an intelligent guy; I have a hard time thinking he believes this politically correct garbage. So we are to believe that females and people with varying skin color that isn't white automatically create an environment that will deliver business results? Didn't MLKjr march and die in an effort to bring about an end to seeing people by the color of their skin?

I really cry for our nation because instead of finally moving past skin color, race, etc and just referring to each other as Americans, humans, etc we are - more than ever before - putting people in an increasing number of categories and identity groups.
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Yes, I'm sure all the people in here arguing women and minorities are inherently inferior are the ones truly looking to move us past skin color and race. :rolleyes:

As someone who has led many teams, having a diversity of backgrounds is a huge help in avoiding groupthink. It also shapes people's thinking, so they bring in a diversity of ways to tackle a problem or issue, which again, can be very helpful.

DellAxim said:
What if white people are just better at those jobs than other races? Maybe they earned their positions without any ridiculous minority handouts?
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If you're truly so naive as to look at history and think that power doesn't cling to power, and that certain sexes, races, ethnicities in certain countries don't have the advantages others do (or in fact, are put specifically into disadvantage) I can't really go anywhere from there.
 
TwistedAegis said:
If you're truly so naive as to look at history and think that power doesn't cling to power, and that certain sexes, races, ethnicities in certain countries don't have the advantages others do (or in fact, are put specifically into disadvantage) I can't really go anywhere from there.
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Indeed this conflict is grounded in ancient history. And in reading threads like this it's plainly obvious that many of the attitudes as it relates to issues in the US haven't changed a lot in many ways.
 
TwistedAegis said:
As someone who has led many teams, having a diversity of backgrounds is a huge help in avoiding groupthink. It also shapes people's thinking, so they bring in a diversity of ways to tackle a problem or issue, which again, can be very helpful.
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Simply having minorities on staff because they are brown does not help anything! It is purely racism at it's finest.

If I applied for these jobs, I would not be hired, because I am white, and for no other reason. How is that not racism?

As an employer myself, looking for another employee, can I make a post on craigslist that says "no blacks, no mexicans"? No? I can't? Then why can I make a post that says no white people???
 
Whatever... I'd be more impressed if they announced they were promising $125 million in funding for the best ideas/products they can find - regardless of who runs them.
 
canna said:
Whatever... I'd be more impressed if they announced they were promising $125 million in funding for the best ideas/products they can find - regardless of who runs them.
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When did we realize this idea of a pure meritocracy that was free of any and all other considerations? In the US it did not happen with the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution. How many times has a person caught a break or gotten lucky and achieved success beyond pure merit or hard work? Not that those things aren't very important but to think that everyone that's ever achieved anything in life did it simply by their own efforts without some help or luck or other consideration is far from the case.

I understand that this isn't necessarily far. But whites in this country have complained just as long and bitterly about this subject as any minority group. When it's come to matters of economic opportunity whites, blacks, women, Native Americans, fill in the blank have NEVER agreed much on the subject. It's always been a bloody mess. I think pointing fingers at the left and even the right over something that's been this divisive for this long is beyond silly.
 
heatlesssun said:
I understand that this isn't necessarily far. But whites in this country have complained just as long and bitterly about this subject as any minority group.
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The problem is that the minorities keep bringing this topic up over and over again. I'm not racist, I hate everybody equally. I hate a lot of white people too. But over and over again I see the minorities bringing up the minority thing. We only have arguments about it because they start them. Stop calling yourself a minority, stop pointing out colors, or genitalia, and those issues will stop happening. It is no more right help minorities specifically as it is to specifically exclude them from anything.

Until the minorities stop exclaiming themselves as underprivileged minorities, we will never see them as part of our own group. They segregate themselves.

People who belong to the minority category should be just as offended if things like this target your race specifically. You can't only get offended when it works out in your favor.
 
DellAxim said:
Until the minorities stop exclaiming themselves as underprivileged minorities, we will never see them as part of our own group. They segregate themselves.
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"Shut up and act like a straight white man or we'll treat you like you're not."
 
DellAxim said:
The problem is that the minorities keep bringing this topic up over and over again. I'm not racist, I hate everybody equally. I hate a lot of white people too. But over and over again I see the minorities bringing up the minority thing. We only have arguments about it because they start them. Stop calling yourself a minority, stop pointing out colors, or genitalia, and those issues will stop happening. It is no more right help minorities specifically as it is to specifically exclude them from anything.
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"If those people would stop being trouble makers, there wouldn't be any." Whites in the US have been making this argument to defend any number of positions on race issues for centuries against trouble makers like Frederick Douglas to MLK. Today guys like Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson get the blame but many if not most black leaders advocating anything for blacks over the years have not be well regarded by many whites.

These arguments are pointless. There's just too much history of disagreement over EVERYTHING.
 
TwistedAegis said:
As someone who has led many teams, having a diversity of backgrounds is a huge help in avoiding groupthink. It also shapes people's thinking, so they bring in a diversity of ways to tackle a problem or issue, which again, can be very helpful.
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So then you are telling us that men and women inherently based on their genders don't think the same, and that two white men will, thanks to their race, think more alike than a white man and a black man... even if the black and white man are close friends that went to the same highschool and then college together and belong to the same country club in Jacksonville, while the third white man is a Russian immigrant who owned a deep sea fishing boat before getting out of that business.

Remember kids, according to liberals, race and gender don't matter and everyone is the same, except when we want to promote women and minorities in which case race and gender are obviously the most significant inherent differences that can exist.

They literally don't understand how retarded this sounds... :D
 
Ducman69 said:
Remember kids, according to liberals, race and gender don't matter and everyone is the same, except when we want to promote women and minorities in which case race and gender are obviously the most significant inherent differences that can exist.

They literally don't understand how retarded this sounds... :D
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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
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Don't see anything in here about being exactly the same. If we were exactly the same humans would have died off long ago due to lack of genetic diversity. It is ironic how so many hate the word "diversity" while being a critical element in the survival of our species.
 
Ducman69 said:
So then you are telling us that men and women inherently based on their genders don't think the same, and that two white men will, thanks to their race, think more alike than a white man and a black man... even if the black and white man are close friends that went to the same highschool and then college together and belong to the same country club in Jacksonville, while the third white man is a Russian immigrant who owned a deep sea fishing boat before getting out of that business.

Remember kids, according to liberals, race and gender don't matter and everyone is the same, except when we want to promote women and minorities in which case race and gender are obviously the most significant inherent differences that can exist.

They literally don't understand how retarded this sounds... :D
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Ducman69 said:
So then you are telling us that men and women inherently based on their genders don't think the same, and that two white men will, thanks to their race, think more alike than a white man and a black man... even if the black and white man are close friends that went to the same highschool and then college together and belong to the same country club in Jacksonville, while the third white man is a Russian immigrant who owned a deep sea fishing boat before getting out of that business.

Remember kids, according to liberals, race and gender don't matter and everyone is the same, except when we want to promote women and minorities in which case race and gender are obviously the most significant inherent differences that can exist.

They literally don't understand how retarded this sounds... :D
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heatlesssun said:
Don't see anything in here about being exactly the same. If we were exactly the same humans would have died off long ago due to lack of genetic diversity. It is ironic how so many hate the word "diversity" while being a critical element in the survival of our species.
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Well, if you agree with the nonsense, then you are saying that women and men, by virtue of their gender, don't think the same. That there is a bigger difference between how any random man and a woman will think than a man and another random man.

That there is a bigger difference between how any random white and black man will think, than a random white and white man put together.

Because if that is the case, then you must now accept that if there is a certain job that requires a certain type of person to be done best, that it would inherently best be done by say a white male, as using your own (faulty) logic a woman or different race man wouldn't think the same. Liberals would never accept something like this, and would remind us that gender and race don't matter, and in fact that race is a social construct and not even real.

Which is great, but then if race and gender don't matter, then its impossible to actually increase diversity of thought by simply changer the gender and racial makeup of a group, since gender and race don't inherently change a person's thoughts. And since surely you don't think that all women or all black people for example are the same and think the same, then clearly this would also apply to white males, meaning that a group of white males can have as diverse a background, ideology, and so forth as a "diverse" group.

Don't you hate it when logic is applied to liberal ideology... so annoying! Now, if you simply go back to the #KillCISWhiteDevil slogan, then there's no longer a logic flaw, but lets at least be honest about our motivations then. :)
 
So Intel is going to discriminate against whites, Asians, and men.

If they were honest, they'd call it the Discrimination Fund.
 
Ducman69 said:
Well, if you agree with the nonsense, then you are saying that women and men, by virtue of their gender, don't think the same. That there is a bigger difference between how any random man and a woman will think than a man and another random man.

That there is a bigger difference between how any random white and black man will think, than a random white and white man put together.

Because if that is the case, then you must now accept that if there is a certain job that requires a certain type of person to be done best, that it would inherently best be done by say a white male, as using your own (faulty) logic a woman or different race man wouldn't think the same. Liberals would never accept something like this, and would remind us that gender and race don't matter, and in fact that race is a social construct and not even real.
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So:

1. A is different from B
2. Therefore A is inherently superior to B?

This is your faulty reasoning.
 
Ducman69 said:
So then you are telling us that men and women inherently based on their genders don't think the same, and that two white men will, thanks to their race, think more alike than a white man and a black man... even if the black and white man are close friends that went to the same highschool and then college together and belong to the same country club in Jacksonville, while the third white man is a Russian immigrant who owned a deep sea fishing boat before getting out of that business.

Remember kids, according to liberals, race and gender don't matter and everyone is the same, except when we want to promote women and minorities in which case race and gender are obviously the most significant inherent differences that can exist.

They literally don't understand how retarded this sounds... :D
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No, I didn't say that at all, but thanks for projecting. I specifically said, "A diversity of backgrounds."

There are an endless amount of potential combinations that bring diversity to a team. But feel free to continue throwing out absurdities to obscure the real disadvantages women and minorities in this country have faced.
 
Median net worth of white vs black households: 13x higher.
Median net worth of white vs hispanic households: 10x higher.

"Intel wants to create a fund for minorities?! Racism...we need it all!"

To further the quotes against my argument, no one is walking up to Intel, showing their skin color, and getting a million dollars. It's simply a specific venue for their ideas to get a chance.

You can't argue the quantitative data; the same resume, with a "white" sounding name needs only 10 resumes sent out to get a callback vs a "black" sounding name needing 15.
 
heatlesssun said:
So:

1. A is different from B
2. Therefore A is inherently superior to B?

This is your faulty reasoning.
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Hah, nice try.

No, its using liberal logic which states:

1) A is no different from B
2) We need As and Bs because they are inherently different.

Which part of that is confusing to you? You say that race and gender don't matter, and then you say that you need diversity in the work place because different races and genders are inherently different, and people of the same race and gender are all the same. Its a logic failure of the left.
 
heatlesssun said:
You've got to be kidding me! LOL!!!!!! You really think a 47 year old black man would ever some something like that? OMFG!!!:D
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Well, then you obviously don't support the liberal ideology I was talking about. So you believe that white and black people inherently by their race don't have the same thought processes? That if you have a group of say five white guys, that they will all suffer from echo-chamber and circle-jerkitus unless you introduce a black man or visa versa?

Good to know that Eminem, Clint Eastwood, Bill Maher, Bill O'Reilly, and Michael Moore would all think the same and can't bring any unique or life experiences to the table since they are all white male clones... seems BS to me, but hey, everyone is entitled to their opinion.
 
Ducman69 said:
Well, then you obviously don't support the liberal ideology I was talking about. So you believe that white and black people inherently by their race don't have the same thought processes? That if you have a group of say five white guys, that they will all suffer from echo-chamber and circle-jerkitus unless you introduce a black man or visa versa?

Good to know that Eminem, Clint Eastwood, Bill Maher, Bill O'Reilly, and Michael Moore would all think the same and can't bring any unique or life experiences to the table since they are all white male clones... seems BS to me, but hey, everyone is entitled to their opinion.
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How many times have I said it. Different doesn't mean inherently superior. And where are you getting that nonsense that liberals claim everyone is the same? Liberals talk about diversity all of the time. You're making no sense.
 
Ducman69 said:
Well, then you obviously don't support the liberal ideology I was talking about. So you believe that white and black people inherently by their race don't have the same thought processes? That if you have a group of say five white guys, that they will all suffer from echo-chamber and circle-jerkitus unless you introduce a black man or visa versa?

Good to know that Eminem, Clint Eastwood, Bill Maher, Bill O'Reilly, and Michael Moore would all think the same and can't bring any unique or life experiences to the table since they are all white male clones... seems BS to me, but hey, everyone is entitled to their opinion.
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They don't, inherently by their race, have different thought processes. However, the reality of human nature is that they are treated differently and thus have different life experiences shaping diversity of thought. It isn't solely by race, either. It could be sexual preference, religion, income bracket, language, etc etc etc.

Isn't that difficult to grasp.
 
heatlesssun said:
How many times have I said it. Different doesn't mean inherently superior. And where are you getting that nonsense that liberals claim everyone is the same? Liberals talk about diversity all of the time. You're making no sense.
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Who said anything about superior?

I don't understand whats confusing to you about this. Either someones race does or doesn't inherently change how they think, and either people of the same race are or are not unique individuals with a huge possible variety of opinions and life experiences regardless of their race (or gender).

If you do NOT believe that black people ALL think a certain way and white people ALL think another way, and everyone is a unique individual who may have grown up poor or rich or liberal or conservative or authoritarian or libertarian or be hard working or lazy, then its complete and utter BS to claim that you have to have a mix of races and gender to avoid circlejerkitus group think, as was said in this thread.
 
TwistedAegis said:
They don't, inherently by their race, have different thought processes. However, the reality of human nature is that they are treated differently and thus have different life experiences shaping diversity of thought.
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Every single human on the planet has different life experiences, regardless of race or gender, that's the ENTIRE POINT!

By they, you are saying that all white people are treated the same and all black people are treated the same in another way? That is such utter nonsense!

Do believe that Will Smith's son Jaden was treated the same as all other black kids by virtue of his race? I'm sure it was very challenging for him in his private school. As challenging as say a fat white kid growing up in Detroit in a primarily black public school. Right? I'm sure the discrimination that Jaden faced on a daily basis gave him a unique perspective that no white kid could ever face.

This is logic 101 here. You can't say that race and gender don't dictate who you are and how you think, and then flip around and say you have to have diversity because people of the same gender and race otherwise all think alike as if they were clones.
 
Ducman69 said:
Who said anything about superior?
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DellAxim said:
What if white people are just better at those jobs than other races? Maybe they earned their positions without any ridiculous minority handouts?
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Ducman69 said:
I don't understand whats confusing to you about this. Either someones race does or doesn't inherently change how they think, and either people of the same race are or are not unique individuals with a huge possible variety of opinions and life experiences regardless of their race (or gender).

If you do NOT believe that black people ALL think a certain way and white people ALL think another way, and everyone is a unique individual who may have grown up poor or rich or liberal or conservative or authoritarian or libertarian or be hard working or lazy, then its complete and utter BS to claim that you have to have a mix of races and gender to avoid circlejerkitus group think, as was said in this thread.
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What's confusing is that you're say a lot of nonsense. Obviously people as individuals have their own experiences that shape their beliefs and it's not all about race obviously. However, many whites in this country with their own obsession about matters of race did help define a culture of black versus white. After centuries of whites defining a white supremacist culture there's none of that still around?
 
Ducman69 said:
Every single human on the planet has different life experiences, regardless of race or gender, that's the ENTIRE POINT!
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But many have shared similar experiences by design. My opinion of race matters was formed by my parents. And just about every black person living in the south at that time shared the same experiences of racial discrimination by design. Remember separate but equal? What do you think that meant?
 
heatlesssun said:
However, many whites in this country with their own obsession about matters of race did help define a culture of black versus white.
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So now everyone is a stereotype? So you don't mind if someone says that you're acting black... I don't think so.

Besides, even if we accept that everyone is a stereotype, there are a plethora of sub-stereotypes within each race, from the "love the smell of my own farts" aging hipster liberal white douches to the "delivering freedoms one bullet at a time" rootin' tootin' truck driving cammo undie redneck.

So this idea that there is one homogeneous white culture doesn't quite fit your "all you people are the same" assertion, that can only be fixed by affirmative action.

For example, you and I have a lot more in common than you think. We both never owned slaves and both think that we're victims of institutional discrimination. Fist bump? :p
 
I think the main problem with these debates is that all the varying groups of people with lighter skin have been grouped together as "white."

I'm German / Scots-Irish
My co-worker is full blood Croatian.
My friend is mostly Irish.
My other friend is Norwegian / French.

All of us are descendants of immigrants from all over the place. Stop calling us all "white."
 
Ducman69 said:
So now everyone is a stereotype? So you don't mind if someone says that you're acting black... I don't think so.
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I don't have to act black because I am. If the implication is that pretending to be something that I'm not is better than what I am then please tell me who wouldn't mind that?
 
chockomonkey said:
All of us are descendants of immigrants from all over the place. Stop calling us all "white."
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I can appreciate what you're saying. I've never said "every white" in any comments that I've made, not intentionally because whites as a group are more divided as a group over matters of race than blacks are in the US. The Civil War and the Civil Rights Movement would not have happened, at least not as they did, without lots of disagreement over issues of race among whites.
 
chockomonkey said:
I'm German / Scots-Irish
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Hey, that's my mix exactly! I am no longer a unique snowflake. If we both shave our heads, people may not be able to tell us apart. Let me know if you want to switch lives for a couple weeks.
 
heatlesssun said:
I can appreciate what you're saying. I've never said "every white" in any comments that I've made, not intentionally because whites as a group are more divided as a group over matters of race than blacks are in the US. The Civil War and the Civil Rights Movement would not have happened, at least not as they did, without lots of disagreement over issues of race among whites.
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Wasn't pointing my comment at anyone really. Just a general observation. Actually if any party were responsible, it'd have to be the media.
 
Ducman69 said:
Hey, that's my mix exactly! I am no longer a unique snowflake. If we both shave our heads, people may not be able to tell us apart. Let me know if you want to switch lives for a couple weeks.
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/highfive!

This concept is what bugs me when people make "white history month" comments, cause it's not accurate at all. If anything we should focus on specific ethnic groups underneath the "white" umbrella and learn more about their very distinct cultures and affects on the modern-day world.
 
It's "white" because for the most part, it's lost relevance in this country, at least in regards to discrimination. For a long time, it did matter. If you were Irish or Catholic, for example, you were systemically discriminated against. And thankfully, that is no longer the case. People moved on to find new groups to discriminate against, which, we're trying to improve as well.
 
chockomonkey said:
Wasn't pointing my comment at anyone really. Just a general observation. Actually if any party were responsible, it'd have to be the media.
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I was only making the point because no one individual wants to be held responsible for the actions of millions of others did and do, regardless if their visibly identifiable as "black", "white", "male", "female" or any other obvious visibly identifiable trait.
 
TwistedAegis said:
It's "white" because for the most part, it's lost relevance in this country, at least in regards to discrimination. For a long time, it did matter. If you were Irish or Catholic, for example, you were systemically discriminated against. And thankfully, that is no longer the case. People moved on to find new groups to discriminate against, which, we're trying to improve as well.
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Whites in the US were the ones that called themselves a "white race". If you look at The Declaration of Causes of Seceding States from Georgia, Mississippi, South Carolina, Texas and Virginia, the writers of those documents consistently refer to themselves as "white" or the "white race". Never any reference to themselves to a particular religion or Irish or British or anything else. Blacks were referred to as blacks, Africans, negroes and mostly slaves in those same documents.
 
heatlesssun said:
Whites in the US were the ones that called themselves a "white race". If you look at The Declaration of Causes of Seceding States from Georgia, Mississippi, South Carolina, Texas and Virginia, the writers of those documents consistently refer to themselves as "white" or the "white race". Never any reference to themselves to a particular religion or Irish or British or anything else. Blacks were referred to as blacks, Africans, negroes and mostly slaves in those same documents.
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Well fuck those old white guys then ^_^
 
chockomonkey said:
I think the main problem with these debates is that all the varying groups of people with lighter skin have been grouped together as "white."

I'm German / Scots-Irish
My co-worker is full blood Croatian.
My friend is mostly Irish.
My other friend is Norwegian / French.

All of us are descendants of immigrants from all over the place. Stop calling us all "white."
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You're all white. What's wrong with being white?
 
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