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The U.S. Department of Transportation’s National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) today joined with members of Congress, safety advocates and industry representatives at the U.S. Department of Transportation’s headquarters to highlight advances in the Driver Alcohol Detection System for Safety (DADSS) program, a research partnership between NHTSA and an industry consortium to develop technology to prevent alcohol-impaired drivers from operating their vehicles while under the influence. The event featured the unveiling of a test vehicle equipped with mock-up DADSS technology that researchers will use to examine driver interactions with the system.

“This is a perfect example of why we at DOT are bullish on technology,” said U.S. Transportation Secretary Anthony Foxx. “Education, awareness and enforcement have succeeded in dramatically reducing drunk driving fatalities, but the advanced technology of DADSS brings enormous potential to save even more lives.”
 
So long as it is only in cars of convicted drunk drivers. I don't need my car treating me like a criminal when I've never driven after drinking more than one drink.
 
So they want to put breathalyzers in everyone cars? I dont drink and drive but I would rip this out of MY car immediately if I ever had one.
 
I hope it's more than breathalyzers..

"We've developed a groundbreaking technology to prevent drunk driving... put breathalyzers in everyones car and treat them like criminals!"
 
It's great that they're working on this sort of thing. The number of innocent lives lost by people who are drinking and then drive is pretty immense and if you're ever personally impacted by that sort of loss (I'd never wish it on anyone) you could understand how awful it is. Putting technology in cars of average citizens who have never been convicted of driving under the influence isn't the answer. I'd love to see people just choose not to drink and drive, but people aren't that responsible or intelligent most of the time. A simpler answer would be to just outlaw alcohol products and raise public awareness by mandating television and streaming media advertisements. Then giving the ATF more power to monitor and arrest people who break the laws. Locking people away for a long time, using extensive fines, and ensuring they have a public criminal record in like an online registry similar to what they do with sex offenders could deter and properly punish. The problem needs to be address, but on much a much broader and far more aggressive front which won't happen until we kick the drinkers out of political offices and bring in people who lead clean lives.
 
Nick_Leo said:
So they want to put breathalyzers in everyone cars? I dont drink and drive but I would rip this out of MY car immediately if I ever had one.
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Yup. What if the device malfunctions, leaving a person unable to drive to work or use the car in an emergency?
 
Just make a first time DUI a 5 year prison sentence and 10 year license suspension.

Driving under the influence can KILL someone. There is NO EXCUSE for it and if you drink and drive you should suffer tremendous consequences.
 
OEM said:
Just make a first time DUI a 5 year prison sentence and 10 year license suspension.

Driving under the influence can KILL someone. There is NO EXCUSE for it and if you drink and drive you should suffer tremendous consequences.
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Yep, 2-ton steel battering rams should not be operated under the influence.

Drunk driving is a serious felony in many other countries, including our neighbors to the north. A former co-worker of mine with a DUI conviction was denied entry into Canada because he's considered a felon by their laws, despite serving no time in the states (besides a night in the drunk tank).
 
As long as its optional or for convited DUI people I'm fine with it.

When it becomes mandatory and its yet another piece upping the cost of my car, and could break and force me to get it fixed or the car won't start, I will be PISSED.
 
Lincoln County, OR has an ordnance where if you're convicted of DUII, you forfeit your vehicle. Not sure how the results are (people driving shitty cars, lower DUII rate, etc.), but that seems like a decent deterrent.

I dislike things like this. For me, it feels more like a punishment for those that didn't do anything wrong. Everyone is affected by the few that break the rules. It applies to a lot of other things, as well. It affects more of the innocent people than it does the guilty. I'd rip it out, too. I don't drink and drive, I don't condone it, it's stupid and there should be harsh punishments for it. It's no secret it's illegal and causes deaths. Ignorance isn't possible with drinking and driving. No one can claim they didn't know. If you have a problem with drinking and not knowing what you're doing - give your keys to someone while you're sober. I don't care if people drink - I do. I just don't drive after I've had 2 beers (2 is my absolute limit... I usually limit myself to 1).

If it's a "blow to drive" device, I'm against it.
 
Ur_Mom said:
Lincoln County, OR has an ordnance where if you're convicted of DUII, you forfeit your vehicle. Not sure how the results are (people driving shitty cars, lower DUII rate, etc.), but that seems like a decent deterrent.
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The only thing I dislike about these things is that, someone commits a crime and you financially fuck them over so bad/ostracize them so badly that you make it nearly impossible for them to hold a job, function in society, etc...then what options are left to them?

Yeah I get it, don't do the crime if you can't do the time...but obviously we're never going to eliminate crime. Isn't it better to give some percentage a shot at not having no other option than dealing drugs or some other lowlife activity to generate income?
 
How it works video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yykyT4YRw4A

Infrared spectroscopy, either touch or breath based. Breath based system is shown mounted on the steering column, doesn't require a breath piece, just "engineered cabin airflow", not sure how that works if you have the blower turned off and the car isn't moving though.
 
They should prevent drunk driving by curb stomping any mother fucker pulled over for drunk driving. See how many people get in the car after drinking when the penalty is dentures and a broken jaw.
 
Quit putting more electronics crap in my car. I had to buy a 2015 Toyota Corolla to buy technology that is 10+ years old as all this new stuff in new cars these days is getting out of hand. At the rate we are going, This may be my last new car.
 
amdgamer said:
Quit putting more electronics crap in my car. I had to buy a 2015 Toyota Corolla to buy technology that is 10+ years old as all this new stuff in new cars these days is getting out of hand. At the rate we are going, This may be my last new car.
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What that attitude, you should have stuck with the Xbox 360.
 
$6 worth of additional hardware, a couple hours of coding to write the software, increases the cost of automobiles by $3000

I kid I kid, but yeah seriously, I see this as a tremendous bloat to cars as far as cost regardless of how much it really costs.
 
TwistedAegis said:
The only thing I dislike about these things is that, someone commits a crime and you financially fuck them over so bad/ostracize them so badly that you make it nearly impossible for them to hold a job, function in society, etc...then what options are left to them?
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Who cares about what happens to them? They made a choice to do something so stupid and selfish that they put everyone around them at risk of being killed because of them. If they did that, they already couldn't function in society and don't deserve to be a part of it. They should go live with all the libertarians and anarchists on the Moon or something where they'll be in like company with their selfish shortsighted blind stupidity.
 
I can't take this stuff seriously as long as they still build bars and restaurants and such that serve alcohol, blatantly, purposefully, and have parking lots. For cars. For driving up to the establishment to consume alcohol, then driving away. I drink and I'm happy for anyone that enjoys it, but that whole idea is just dumb. And they wonder why people still do it, why people make bad decisions, after consuming something that impairs judgement. Yeah. That sort of hypocrisy or whatever you want to call it really annoys me. And it's everywhere.

I ride my damn bicycle or stay wherever I'm drinking at. I have a serious gripe with drinking and driving.
 
Ruoh said:
I think I've heard that same excuse for ABS brakes, and mandatory seatbelt laws.
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It's not an excuse, but a reasonable concern. Those other issues you cited don't prevent the car from being driven, unlike what this presumably does.
 
TwistedAegis said:
The only thing I dislike about these things is that, someone commits a crime and you financially fuck them over so bad/ostracize them so badly that you make it nearly impossible for them to hold a job, function in society, etc...then what options are left to them?

Yeah I get it, don't do the crime if you can't do the time...but obviously we're never going to eliminate crime. Isn't it better to give some percentage a shot at not having no other option than dealing drugs or some other lowlife activity to generate income?
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This is bullshit you do know right?

A barber can make over 70K a year and be self employed. All they need is to rent a chair at a barber shop and they are hooked up. Nothing would stop a person from going to barber school after a DUI, or setting up shop with one. That is one of many careers which are not that bad and have no where near the requirements of other careers. In simple terms, it's a complete fallacy that people with a DUI can't get decent work.

Could you lose your job, yes.
Would you have to change careers, possibly.
Are you reduced to becoming a criminal just to make it, no fucking way.
 
Commander FAT said:
Every time I read your posts I truly wonder if you're being serious or carefully crafting your words to sound NOT QUITE sarcastic.
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Damn, you have to wonder. It's plainly obvious to the rest of us.

Uncle is a class act troll and [H] is lucky to have him :D
 
CreepyUncleGoogle said:
It's great that they're working on this sort of thing. The number of innocent lives lost by people who are drinking and then drive is pretty immense and if you're ever personally impacted by that sort of loss (I'd never wish it on anyone) you could understand how awful it is. Putting technology in cars of average citizens who have never been convicted of driving under the influence isn't the answer. I'd love to see people just choose not to drink and drive, but people aren't that responsible or intelligent most of the time. A simpler answer would be to just outlaw alcohol products and raise public awareness by mandating television and streaming media advertisements. Then giving the ATF more power to monitor and arrest people who break the laws. Locking people away for a long time, using extensive fines, and ensuring they have a public criminal record in like an online registry similar to what they do with sex offenders could deter and properly punish. The problem needs to be address, but on much a much broader and far more aggressive front which won't happen until we kick the drinkers out of political offices and bring in people who lead clean lives.
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This was tried once before. It didn't work out as well as originally envisioned.
 
Kueller said:
Infrared spectroscopy, either touch or breath based. Breath based system is shown mounted on the steering column, doesn't require a breath piece, just "engineered cabin airflow", not sure how that works if you have the blower turned off and the car isn't moving though.
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So, being the designated driver with a car full of drunk friends doesn't sound like it would be doable. It can smell like a distillery real fast. Whole car. Not sure how that would work.
 
PDF press release says this will be a safety option. It doesn't say that it will be a requirement. So how will this eliminate drunk driving if the most egregious offenders can choose not to get it? Plus it's not like they can install it on all the old cars on the road.
 
Ur_Mom said:
So, being the designated driver with a car full of drunk friends doesn't sound like it would be doable. It can smell like a distillery real fast. Whole car. Not sure how that would work.
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Don't need a group, I did that all on my own. My wife was driving me home from my Promotion party to Staff Sergeant, at the gate, the MPs had to ask my wife to exit the vehicle cause I made the car smell so stinkoo :eek:
 
Ur_Mom said:
So, being the designated driver with a car full of drunk friends doesn't sound like it would be doable. It can smell like a distillery real fast. Whole car. Not sure how that would work.
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In the future you will have to designate a driver with a classic car to get you home from the bar.

Waiting for this to be mandated (at the zero tolerance level) on taxis, then they discover cabbies can't give drunks rides home unless they have a fully isolated climate control system.
 
Kueller said:
How it works video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yykyT4YRw4A

Infrared spectroscopy, either touch or breath based. Breath based system is shown mounted on the steering column, doesn't require a breath piece, just "engineered cabin airflow", not sure how that works if you have the blower turned off and the car isn't moving though.
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So if your passengers are totally lit can they trigger the sensor? If so then so much for the whole DD thing.

Does it only prevent it from starting or will it kill the engine if triggered while running? Both present their own set of problems. Doesn't kill while running = easy bypass. Does kill while running = you may be sober, but the drunk chick you picked up leans over, sensor triggers, the car dies...no happy ending for you (not to mention all the legal issues).

So when do they start using a blood sample to test for other substances?
 
So cab drivers, designated drivers, buses, etc are out? Walk the fuck home, you drunk fucker! Happy surviving not getting mugged along the way.
 
Ruoh said:
I think I've heard that same excuse for ABS brakes, and mandatory seatbelt laws.
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Not quite sure what you mean by this? I broke an abs sensor the other day on my car and my dash is lit up like a christmas tree but Im still on the road? People are always going to drive drunk, high, or on prescription drugs and if they create a system in new cars where they cant do this they will just buy a used a car or delete the system.
 
Nick_Leo said:
Not quite sure what you mean by this? I broke an abs sensor the other day on my car and my dash is lit up like a christmas tree but Im still on the road? People are always going to drive drunk, high, or on prescription drugs and if they create a system in new cars where they cant do this they will just buy a used a car or delete the system.
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Sometimes I think you guys are being obtuse on purpose.

The issue with the ABS was people fearing brakes would lock up on their own, and the cars wouldn't move, or they would get into accidents on the freeway at speed.

Seat belters complained that if they got in an accident, they wouldn't be able to get out of their cars before burning to death.
 
Ruoh said:
What that attitude, you should have stuck with the Xbox 360.
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Xbox One is fine for me, but yes I am a Luddite. I like the efficiency gains made possible by technology, but hate how impersonal life has gotten. When it comes to cars, I want my ethanol free 100% pure petrol back along with RWD and a v8 engine.
 
amdgamer said:
Xbox One is fine for me, but yes I am a Luddite. I like the efficiency gains made possible by technology, but hate how impersonal life has gotten. When it comes to cars, I want my ethanol free 100% pure petrol back along with RWD and a v8 engine.
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I had to settle for 2 out of 3 :D

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lcpiper said:
Damn, you have to wonder. It's plainly obvious to the rest of us.

Uncle is a class act troll and [H] is lucky to have him :D
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Commander FAT said:
I guess he's just THAT good.
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Aaaaaw, I'm just trying to do my part for the world (one forum at a time). Though, this is one of those really rare cases when there's some truth in the crazy-cakes suggestions...well, at least I do actually support the stuff I'm suggesting when it comes to driving and making booze illegal. Its sort of a close to home issue so while I'm still taking it all in a fairly tongue-in-cheek way, I think drinking and driving sucks and leads to some really horrible, tragic stuff that we need to do something about beyond just reacting to the symptom. We need to do something more drastic to curb the problem and RUIN the LIVES of people who purchase, sell, consume, or ponder alcohol in a favorable manner.

MrCaffeineX said:
This was tried once before. It didn't work out as well as originally envisioned.
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Yes, but now we have Android phones in people's pockets and can monitor all their web traffic, location, e-mail, text message, calls, and purchases so we can deal with the problem by like revoking citizenship automatically and sending SWAT teams to break down their doors, cut up all their furniture, and (even if they're not guilty at the moment they're arrested) brand their records (and their face with some kinda permanent scarring) forever with the fact that they were suspected of consuming alcohol. Since people can't take care of themselves, we need a much more powerful, decisive police force to neutralize mentally defective people who enjoy drinking to keep the world safe for people who are closer to idealized perfection like me.
 
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