Are 4Ks closer to worth it?

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Saki630

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I bought this beast U2711 off [H] five years ago. The monitor is still very good with the only downsides being that the stand does not swivel and the back lighting really heats the room. However the color is amazing, the size perfect for gaming and general use, and at 0% brightness it still dominates.

I dont think I can or will ever get rid of this U2711 because it still works an has been the greatest investment. Therefore I want to know if 4K monitors are close enough to consider a purchase.

Maybe I'm too eager to jump to 4K, but is there any links you can provide that may educate me? After seeing the 32incher from Dell on a Linus video, and finally finding video media that is larger than this screen being available, I want to know if its worth it yet.
 
Let's see if my fence sitting and lurking does anything for you here. ;)



It's a subjective answer. How much are you willing to spend? The answer to that will be the answer to "is it worth it?" for you.


You can get that Phillips monitor that's very popular... look several threads down... and a Titan-X or AMD equivalent thereof and yes, you can have 4k now and I haven't seen a person yet anywhere who has regretted making the move after they have done it.

A few thread down you will see this huge Samsung thread. Some people have had success with certain Samsung TVs...believe it or not... for 4K.

So it's there if you want it. It just comes down to what you are willing to spend and what give and take you are potentially willing to live with.

Lurk through several of the more popular threads around here and I think you will get up to speed fairly quickly. :)
 
I think it is a bit early for most people. 390x will be coming soon and should bring down the cost to power them. Gsyng and freesync are also new at this point as well.
 
OP: As a happy Dell owner you may want to take a look at their 4k and even 5k (?!) monitors depending on what you want to use them for.
 
Its logical to think that if you are happy with what you have now in the U2711 then there is little to no point in upgrading. If you are not content then an upgrade makes more sense or if you want an additional monitor for specific applications on the same system (or a monitor for another different system).

Having said that, the grass is always greener on the other side.
 
Q-BZ said:
you can have 4k now and I haven't seen a person yet anywhere who has regretted making the move after they have done it.
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I hated my 4k and sent it back. Most things were too small, and scaling was useless.
 
4k on my 40" samsung is awesome and I would never go back to a lesser resolution. The added desktop real estate is amazing every single time I go to my computer. You do need a fairly big screen for it or else things will be way too small though. 40" is probably the smallest I'd recommend for it.
 
Unless you need 4K for some reason *desktop real estate, 4K video editing,etc). It's best to wait a bit as the selections and features on 4K TV/Mon will probably increase by quite a bit by the end of the year.
 
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Q-BZ said:
you can have 4k now and I haven't seen a person yet anywhere who has regretted making the move after they have done it.
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See what they think when High-Color Gamut 4K and HDCP 2.2 become standard at the end of the year.
 
Saki630 said:
I bought this beast U2711 off [H] five years ago. The monitor is still very good with the only downsides being that the stand does not swivel and the back lighting really heats the room. However the color is amazing, the size perfect for gaming and general use, and at 0% brightness it still dominates.

I dont think I can or will ever get rid of this U2711 because it still works an has been the greatest investment. Therefore I want to know if 4K monitors are close enough to consider a purchase.

Maybe I'm too eager to jump to 4K, but is there any links you can provide that may educate me? After seeing the 32incher from Dell on a Linus video, and finally finding video media that is larger than this screen being available, I want to know if its worth it yet.
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If you can afford to buy 2 x flagship GPU (titan x / 390x) then yes it is ok... If not then don't bother. 980Sli would be ok with lower settings... But with any single card forget it if you want to play new games at high settings.
 
The U2711 has always sucked and can't hold a candle to the quality 27-32" AHVA/IPS/PLS 1440p+4k monitors. The great colours are over-saturated and inaccurate, consumer media disrespecting wide gamut colours, and it's not really a true 1440p monitor due to how grainy its matte coating is (notice how grainy the ZR2740W looks compared to the U2713HM and S27A850D. The U2711 uses the same grainy matte coating as the ZR2740W).
 
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You can game at 4k you'll need at least 4GB for vram
I'm trying to decide if I will get a 40"+ 4k monitor or the 34" 1440 gsync monitor coming this year.
 
Tgrove said:
hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1843625

You can game at 4k you'll need at least 4GB for vram
I'm trying to decide if I will get a 40"+ 4k monitor or the 34" 1440 gsync monitor coming this year.
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For gaming, free/gsync is a must have now. I would pick the 1440p gsync display over the 4k even though it's smaller. No point in having that "IMAX" like experience if it's just gonna be filled with screen tears.
 
MistaSparkul said:
For gaming, free/gsync is a must have now. I would pick the 1440p gsync display over the 4k even though it's smaller. No point in having that "IMAX" like experience if it's just gonna be filled with screen tears.
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Playing Witcher 3 at 45FPS with VSYNC. No screen tearing here.:confused:
 
MistaSparkul said:
For gaming, free/gsync is a must have now. I would pick the 1440p gsync display over the 4k even though it's smaller. No point in having that "IMAX" like experience if it's just gonna be filled with screen tears.
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But 4k VA panels with <240hz PWM and V-Sync are so much better, and sharp. I guess you didn't know that low frequency PWM adds blur and makes non-blurred games look better?
 
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But 4k VA panels with <240hz PWM and V-Sync are so much better, and sharp. I guess you didn't know that low frequency PWM adds blur and makes non-blurred games look better?
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I see you're still on the crusades against PWM. Let me know if you find a 4K monitor that's as nice as the Samsung without PWM. We'd all like to know and purchase it. Don't mention the Korean brands because we know it's all BS, like that one brand that advertises no PWM but instead doesn't lower the brightness at all. You may as well use the Samsung at 20 brightness and call it a day.
 
The Dell p2715q is a great monitor (4K and IPS) and only costs around $550.
This monitor features the best black I have ever seen on an IPS.
 
Thanks guys! I never expected such a response so soon and wanted to say I'll be waiting on 4K.


Here are my thoughts:
1) 1440p ultra settings are still demanding, 4K equivalent is not doable without SLI/CF/$$$$.
2) 4K screens and anything similar to my own, are not an upgrade for my current situation - yet.
3) I've read conflicting reviews saying that the DVI or HDMI connections are not allowing for enough data to be sent in order to enable anything higher than 30hz.
4) Am I wrong to assume that a 4K monitor should be larger than 30inches, and considering my ancient LG tv is only 42 inches, should I just not get a 4K TV instead? If so I'll have to wait on better models.


I'll be going to grad school this year and feel the upgrade bug hitting me in the left ass cheek. I'll be reading some things and see if I can build a noticeably better rig around the same price as this one.
 
MistaSparkul said:
For gaming, free/gsync is a must have now. I would pick the 1440p gsync display over the 4k even though it's smaller. No point in having that "IMAX" like experience if it's just gonna be filled with screen tears.
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Yup. I'm looking more toward the curved 1440p 21:9 monitors which are 5MP, versus 4k's 8MP, coming from a 1600p 4MP monitor.

Should be doable with a single GPU and G-Sync, which is the plan. And G-Sync support is the bare minimum for a monitor upgrade.

(and no, turning on V-Sync and getting input lag is *not* a suitable alternative)
 
Saki630 said:
Thanks guys! I never expected such a response so soon and wanted to say I'll be waiting on 4K.


Here are my thoughts:
1) 1440p ultra settings are still demanding, 4K equivalent is not doable without SLI/CF/$$$$.
2) 4K screens and anything similar to my own, are not an upgrade for my current situation - yet.
3) I've read conflicting reviews saying that the DVI or HDMI connections are not allowing for enough data to be sent in order to enable anything higher than 30hz.
4) Am I wrong to assume that a 4K monitor should be larger than 30inches, and considering my ancient LG tv is only 42 inches, should I just not get a 4K TV instead? If so I'll have to wait on better models.


I'll be going to grad school this year and feel the upgrade bug hitting me in the left ass cheek. I'll be reading some things and see if I can build a noticeably better rig around the same price as this one.
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About the jist of it. 4k is the purview of the top end enthusiast market. I went with 4k curved because I have always wanted a surround setup and this is an extension of that concept. It takes a lot of horsepower to drive it, though.
 
Saki630 said:
Thanks guys! I never expected such a response so soon and wanted to say I'll be waiting on 4K.


Here are my thoughts:
1) 1440p ultra settings are still demanding, 4K equivalent is not doable without SLI/CF/$$$$.
2) 4K screens and anything similar to my own, are not an upgrade for my current situation - yet.
3) I've read conflicting reviews saying that the DVI or HDMI connections are not allowing for enough data to be sent in order to enable anything higher than 30hz.
4) Am I wrong to assume that a 4K monitor should be larger than 30inches, and considering my ancient LG tv is only 42 inches, should I just not get a 4K TV instead? If so I'll have to wait on better models.


I'll be going to grad school this year and feel the upgrade bug hitting me in the left ass cheek. I'll be reading some things and see if I can build a noticeably better rig around the same price as this one.
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True if most your gaming is FPS. I play Neverwinter, Witcher 3 and D3 without much problem on a GTX970 OC, sure I have to turn off AA and go medium on some setting but things look so good at 4K. For the few FPS that I play, I just drop to 1080p.

Unless you have perfect eyesight. I would say you'll need at least a 32" to actually do work on a 4K screen without scaling up the fonts. Waiting a few months should give you a much bigger selection to choose from.
 
I was a "non believer" and in denial for many months about 4K monitors. One month ago I tried the 4K BL3201PH and have to say, as cliche as it may sound that it's been the single best monitor I have bought in my life (and I have bought quite a few).

The best part is that as beautifully my monitor displays 4K images/video games/etc when dealing with other resolutions (1080p, 1440p) the monitor works so great that you would think it's a native resolution monitor and the scaling (I'm at 200%) works flawlessly with W8.1.

The input lag and response time is remarkable as well.
 
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