xbox360 + xbone controller?

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silk186

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I currently have a 360 controller and wiimote for my computer. This works well for myself but not so much if friends come over. I can pick up a new 360 controller when I go to China for £12 or an xbone controller for £30. I've never tried the new controller. Is it worth the extra £££ and would I be able to run the two together at the same time? Due they run off the same reciever?
 
The XB one controller has no wireless support for the PC. You need to connect it to a micro USB cable,
The biggest improvement is the dpad, but they improved that on (wireless) 360 controllers sometime in the past year or two, so new 360 controllers have much nicer dpads.

I like the XB one controller alright, it's slightly more comfortable than the 360 controllers in my opinion, but MS's bizarre decisions with its PC support leave me scratching my head more than anything else.

*Edit: I was wrong about the batteries, I had a bad usb cable at the time I tested it. And jthomas points out a wireless pc adapter is planned for some undetermined time.
 
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That's good for me as I've run multiple 360 controlls in the past without issue and they are dirt cheap right now.
 
EvanH said:
The XBone controller has no wireless support for the PC, and from my understanding, none is planned.
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They announced at GDC in March that the wireless dongle is definitely coming "later this year." Hopefully that doesn't mean December.
 
but with the wireless dongle be compatible with the 360 and one controllers or will I need to have both connected at the same time?
 
silk186 said:
but with the wireless dongle be compatible with the 360 and one controllers or will I need to have both connected at the same time?
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There is zero information regarding the wireless dongle, other than an official "it's coming in 2015." Nobody knows anything about it. That said, the 360 and X1 controllers use a different wireless connectivity, they are not compatible. The only way you'd be able to use both controllers on the same dongle is if Microsoft specifically built it to have a separate receiver for each type of controller. I think the likelihood of that happening is basically naught. I certainly wouldn't expect or anticipate it.

If you can, I think your best bet is to simply go try the controller. Here in the US, X1 demo kiosks are everywhere. Not always playable, but even the ones that aren't will often have a controller available to hold. Likewise, I'm starting to see a lot of demo kiosks for Alienwares console PC thing, and any of the ones i've come across also use an X1 pad.

I have to assume that demo kiosks are also a thing over in the UK. I'd go track one down, mess around with the pad a bit, and compare it to your experience with the 360 pad. Personally, I really like the X1 pad, much more than the 360 pad. The d-pad is better, as has been said, but I also think the analogs feel better. My favorite improvement though, is the triggers. They bottom out on a soft surface, which both feels better and is a lot less noisy.
 
If that is the case, my choice is between buying two one controllers and a reciever or one significantly cheaper 360 controller. It makes it easy for me. If I could have one of each, a one for myself and a 360 for when friends come over it would be different.
 
I don't know what the compatibility is with the Xbone controller on the PC just yet, but it is a very nice controller. I was pleasantly surprised at the new triggers, and their feedback. It's a great sensation playing racing games and FPS's.
 
Cyclone187 said:
I don't know what the compatibility is with the Xbone controller on the PC just yet, but it is a very nice controller. I was pleasantly surprised at the new triggers, and their feedback. It's a great sensation playing racing games and FPS's.
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Plugged in with a micro USB cable its a fully compatible wired controller, will be wireless when a dongle which they promised this year becomes availible
 
While it's a massive longshot, it would be really cool if the new wireless dongle supported both 360 and Xbox One controllers.
 
EvanH said:
The XBone controller has no wireless support for the PC, and from my understanding, none is planned. You need to connect it to a micro USB cable, and even then it still requires batteries for it to run.
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WUT!? :confused: Cant it atleast be equipped with AA rechargeables which the USB cable keeps loaded? That is seriously stupid design flaw if it keeps draining batteries even if micro USB should provide all the power it needs.
 
Just something to remember is the USB port they use is absolute trash. Dropped the controller once with the cable and the cable is already unusable. The type of micro usb they use is shit. I've dropped my PS3 controller multiple times and it's still fine. So make sure you're very careful with it.

And it does NOT require batteries while in wired mode, no idea where that idea came from.
 
why would I want to use it in wired mode. It would not be much of an upgrade to move from a wireless 360 controller to a wired one controller.
 
Because it only works in wired mode on PC...derp?
 
I used the 360 controller and dongle combo for several years and loved it. I was interested in running the xbox one controller, but have since setup ds4windows and dont think i will be looking back anytime soon. I much prefered the xbox 360 controller vs the ds3, but the ds4 is just large enough that it bridges the gap between what i liked about the two different controllers and was a breeze to pair with my bluetooth dongle i already had on hand.
 
Ieyasu said:
I used the 360 controller and dongle combo for several years and loved it. I was interested in running the xbox one controller, but have since setup ds4windows and dont think i will be looking back anytime soon. I much prefered the xbox 360 controller vs the ds3, but the ds4 is just large enough that it bridges the gap between what i liked about the two different controllers and was a breeze to pair with my bluetooth dongle i already had on hand.
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Yep. I used to like 360 controller (first on the 360, then with a PC after I got a wireless dongle to be able to use it with Dark Souls), but recently I became a DS4 convert. Tried my friend's Xbox One controller over the weekend for a few hours, it's decent, but still prefer the DS4 after the experience. I realize its subjective but I think once someone tries a DS4 for a bit, they'll want to stay there.

I also set up my DS4 to play PS3 games now so I'm set. One controller for PC, PS3 and PS4 - all wirelessly, while MS still can't get their act together and enable wireless Xbox One controller on PC.
 
xIronCrossx said:
Just something to remember is the USB port they use is absolute trash. Dropped the controller once with the cable and the cable is already unusable. The type of micro usb they use is shit. I've dropped my PS3 controller multiple times and it's still fine. So make sure you're very careful with it.

And it does NOT require batteries while in wired mode, no idea where that idea came from.
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The PS3 controller uses mini usb, not micro usb. Mini is more rectangular and bigger, hence why it is more durable.
 
MaZa said:
WUT!? :confused: Cant it atleast be equipped with AA rechargeables which the USB cable keeps loaded? That is seriously stupid design flaw if it keeps draining batteries even if micro USB should provide all the power it needs.
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Sorry. I was wrong about that. I had a broken micro usb cable that was giving me trouble before I realized it. I looked on the xbox support site, and must have misread a support article and just kind of figured it was a bizarre design choice. I popped out the batteries of my xb one controller again and connected it to a correctly working usb cable and it worked fine.

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The PS3 controller uses mini usb, not micro usb. Mini is more rectangular and bigger, hence why it is more durable.
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Mini usb has a serious mechanical design flaw.
 
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EvanH said:
Mini usb has a serious mechanical design flaw.
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They were largely referring to mini-A, not the mini-B that's more common and in use by the PS3.

Mini-B was much more durable. However, the plug can still wear quicker than Micro USB from plugging and unplugging. No mention of side to side force.

That being said, the person I replied to mentioned specifically dropping the controller. That implies a side to side or flexing force, something the larger and more boxy mini usb-B is well adept at protecting against.
 
The biggest "flaw" seems to be that you can only connect it half as many times as micro usb, something that is important in a phone but not really a controller. You generally don't connect/disconnect a controller everyday like you do a phone. In every other aspect micro USB is shitty for this case. It's much more fragile and prone to bending the port/connectors. The cable itself is always slipping from side to side in the Xbox one controller as well.
 
HisSvt76 said:
Plugged in with a micro USB cable its a fully compatible wired controller, will be wireless when a dongle which they promised this year becomes availible
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Nice, I haven't tried mine yet. What games did you try it with? Did the trigger vibrations work?
 
EvanH said:
The biggest improvement is the dpad, but they improved that on (wireless) 360 controllers sometime in the past year or two, so new 360 controllers have much nicer dpads.
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It should be noted that only the "chrome" line of 360 controllers have the "transforming D-pads". Stock 360 controllers still have the crummy D-pads.
 
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