Windows 10 IP build 10074 available on the Fast ring NOW

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Grab it like it's hot potatoes!

If I (or someone else) can find a link for release notes, I will update this post accordingly.

EDIT: see below for an ISO link
EDIT #2: Release notes below. Thanks, Ur_Mom :)
EDIT #3: It's on both slow and fast rings, my bad

Here is what’s new

Some of the things that Joe demoed on stage earlier today during the Build keynote are not yet included in this build and will be in future builds. But we still have a bunch of new stuff for you to check out!

General UX improvements: We made a bunch of UX improvements with the last build and you’ll see even more in this build. For example, you’ll notice a new Live Tile animation for Start in addition to in addition to some performance and stability improvements for Live Tiles.

We’ve done work to better support high DPI displays. And we know many Windows Insiders are running multi-mon setups – often with 2 monitors with different DPI. You will start to see some work we’re doing to make sure core UX components in Windows scale correctly on both your monitors so things look nice regardless of DPI.

We’ve also heard loud in clear that many Windows Insiders want to see Aero Glass from Windows 7 make a comeback. We’ve been working out how to satisfy this request, and are trying some things out with this build to see how you like them. We’re running a little A/B test with this build. 50% of you will normal transparency on the Start menu and taskbar while the other 50% will see a blur effect on the Start menu and taskbar (like frosted glass). If Windows Insiders really like the blur effect, we will add it to more areas and even consider making it the default instead of standard transparency. Which one did you get? Send us feedback about it via the Windows Feedback app!

Even more improvements to Continuum: We’re continuing to make Continuum better and invest in a simplified taskbar. Additionally when you close an application in Tablet mode, we take you back to the Start screen instead of the desktop as you would expect when using a tablet. You will see general polish on snapping, and the shared divider between two snapped windows now let’s you adjust the size.

Multi-tasking improvements: We’re continuing to refine and complete our mulit-tasking experience with Windows 10. Check out Alt-Tab, Task-View, and Snap Assist. Snap Assist also now supports the ability to close a window during Snap Assist.

New default Windows sounds: We’ve heard a lot of feedback from people that they want some fresh system sounds for Windows 10. Check them out and let us know what you think.

Visual refresh for Cortana: You will see a visual refresh for Cortana in this build that makes the experience feel more ingrained into the overall Windows experience. Start and Cortana are now more tightly integrated. As you start to search for an app from within Start, Cortana can seamlessly take over and bring back the right result. The new Windows split view control has been added to Cortana’s left rail, offering quick access to key Cortana functionality like the Notebook, Reminders or Feedback on how Cortana’s doing. This split view control helps anchor Cortana to the rest of the Windows UI and provides navigation consistent with many other Windows first party applications.

New experiences in Cortana: We are making available some new and updated experiences in Cortana powered by Bing Instant Answers. Cortana will aim to answer your question while you’re still typing. Here are a few questions you can try:


•Weather – “Seattle Weather”
•Finance – “MSFT stock”
•Dictionary – “define astounding”
•Calculator – “48*92”
•Flight Status – “UA 238”
•Reference – “how tall is brad pitt”
•Showtimes – “movies near me”
•Tech Help – “memory in my computer”
•Time Zone – “time in London”
•Unit Conversion – “42 ft in meters”
•Chit Chat – “tell me a joke”

Updates for the Music and Video Preview apps: We’ve also shipped updates to these apps. The Music Preview app (3.6.999.0) has some UX improvements including a more immersive Now Playing experience with a true full screen mode. With the Video Preview app (3.6.999.0) – you can download movies, TV shows, and TV seasons and check progress, pause, resume, cancel the download. You can also download, delete, and even re-download videos as many times as you want on up to three devices (we’re planning to increase the number of devices you can download content too!). Closed captioning for purchased content now appears. You will see a list of new features when you first launch these app after each update!

Xbox app April 2015 update: The Xbox app for Windows 10 has been updated (your version number should be 4.4.9014.0 or higher) with new features like Game DVR for PC games, screenshots, a Live Tile, user profiles, and real-name sharing. Oh and the drivers for Xbox controllers are now included with Windows 10, so you no longer have to download and install controller drivers on Windows 10. For more on this month’s Xbox app for Windows 10 update as well as the new Avatars app – read this blog post.

Windows Store Beta improvements: We’re excited about delivering a single unified Store experience in Windows 10 which we’re talking more about this week at Build. We’ve made some improvements to the Store Beta which is now a blue tile instead of grey. Xbox Live games should be working and so are in-app purchases. Apps you purchased on a PC running Windows 8.1 will now show up in the Store Beta on Windows 10 as owned (and vice-versa). We’re also expanding the Store Beta from 41 markets with the addition of these new markets: Afghanistan, Åland Islands, Albania, Algeria, American Samoa, Andorra, Angola, Anguilla, Antarctica, Antigua and Barbuda, Armenia, Aruba, Azerbaijan, The Bahamas, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belize, Benin, Bermuda, Bahrain, Bhutan, Bolivia, Bonaire, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Botswana, Bouvet Island, Cyprus, Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Georgia, Ghana, Guatemala, Iceland, Iraq, Kazakhstan, Malta, Pakistan, Qatar, Sri Lanka, Jordan, Lebanon, Nicaragua, Oman, Panama, Puerto Rico, Paraguay, Trinidad and Tobago, Uganda, Venezuela.

Discovering features and apps in Windows 10: We are investing in easy “bite-sized” learning and discovery experiences so that users can get more out of Windows 10. This ranges from tips and tricks on the Lock screen, to helping users discover high quality apps through Start, the Lock screen and Cortana. Be confident that you won’t miss out on new features and enjoy the ease of having high quality apps curated for you. It’s optional, and if anything doesn’t strike your fancy, you can provide feedback directly, such as whether you like an image or an app. These new experiences will be rolling out over time, so you may not see them in your market yet.

Here are some things we fixed
•You can now launch Win32 (desktop) apps from the Start menu again. Sorry about this bug!
•You should be able to download music in the Xbox Music and Music Preview apps.
•When you minimize an app playing audio, it should continue playing in the background.

Here are some known issues
•Developers cannot enable Developer Mode in the Settings app for installing and testing apps on this build. We’ll enable this in an upcoming build. In the meantime, you will need enable your device for development using the Group Policy Editor.
•There is an issue in this build preventing some games from playing in full screen mode. We’re working to get a fix out via WU as soon as possible.
•The People app continues to crash. We’re planning to release an update for the People app through the Store Beta that fixes this.

We hope you’ll agree that 10074 has some nice improvements and is another step forward towards delivering a great Windows 10 release. Please put it through the paces and keep sending us feedback on the things that you like and the things you want us to keep working on using the Windows Feedback app. I hope that you’ll also download the development tools released at Build and will build some terrific Universal Windows apps as well!
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Discuss.
 
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If they're going to bring glass back I want glass windows ala W8 consumer beta... aka W7 with square windows.
 
Anyone try this out with the new Nvidia Win10 drivers? I'm curious about jumping on the beta bandwagon.
 
I was having issues with the i2c audio on my XPS 13, but reinstalling the Dell drivers fixed the problem. Everything is running smoothly.
 
I like how the live tiles rotate like they are on a spindle now. :) Makes it looks cool.
 
ManofGod said:
I like how the live tiles rotate like they are on a spindle now. :) Makes it looks cool.
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I could only get that to work one time :(. It was a pretty cool effect, though I'm wondering how distracting it might be if you have a bunch of tiles doing that.
 
Likewise, you can't search for settings either. Try searching for "update". You'll get some recommended Store app and then Bing results.

Edit: Actually, seems to work now. Guess it was a case of user error. :p
 
Snowknight26 said:
Likewise, you can't search for settings either. Try searching for "update". You'll get some recommended Store app and then Bing results.

Edit: Actually, seems to work now. Guess it was a case of user error. :p
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No, search is definitely janky as fuck sometimes and randomly breaks exactly like you describe. It eventually seems to magically cure itself after a while
 
Just installed the new ISO. Gotta love them still playing fuck-fuck games with creating an offline account on first install.
 
socK said:
No, search is definitely janky as fuck sometimes and randomly breaks exactly like you describe. It eventually seems to magically cure itself after a while
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It took a couple times for my to get Notepad to come up and run. After about the 3rd time of trying, it started working (and nearly instant). Not sure if it needs time to build an index or what, but initially it doesn't work very well. Hopefully, that's just a known bug that's going to get fixed. I submitted a report via feedback tool, too.
 
Liger88 said:
Just installed the new ISO. Gotta love them still playing fuck-fuck games with creating an offline account on first install.
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I know, clicking on create a new account and then create a local account is seriously complicated. :rolleyes:
 
ManofGod said:
I know, clicking on create a new account and then create a local account is seriously complicated. :rolleyes:
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Sounds like an improvement over 8. From what I recall you'd actually have to fail the online account auth before it would present you with local account options
 
bigdogchris said:
The Control Panel is going to eventually get axed. They are probably removing them from search. CP will likely stay in this version for legacy purposes.
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eww i don't like the sound of that. Have they said what their plan is? I mean, if they move everything to a "Settings" area, but everything remains the same, that's not such a big deal.
 
Seems the bug I had in two earlier builds with system freezing, when alt-tabbing from game is gone.

However, I can't figure the source of other issue I have - in Polish language we use special characters in our alphabet, that are displayed by alt+letter. Some of tchem work. However alt-e, alt-l and alt-s are not registered in Edge/Spartan. Yes, they work in system, notepad, word, whatever... even in Edge's URL field. But once I try to type in the browser, I can't use those letters. Very, very irritating.

OTher thing that slightly is irritating is mail app - you can't mark several mails with shift+click.

Can't say anything about Cortana. Bing has not been offiicialy launched in my country, so no Cortana (and propably no Cortana for a long time after Win10 release) - we don't even have Surface line aviable officialy here, so one of most important and most selling part onf Windows ecosystem will not work .
 
chockomonkey said:
Sounds like an improvement over 8. From what I recall you'd actually have to fail the online account auth before it would present you with local account options
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That's exactly what happened after clicking New Account. Didn't present any Local Account option just said it failed and popped up a random Account Page, thus hinting it New Account was trying to create a Microsoft one. That's the kind of trickery I was referring to.

But the install may have been borked from the beginning though. It locks up frequently in the VM constantly despite the resources I'm throwing at it doing random things like trying to pin the Control Panel (can't btw) to the Start Menu.

I'll try and reinstall again later. The early Technical Previews always ran smooth.
 
They aren't kidding about the fullscreen game bug. So far it seems DX9 stuff is the most affected. The game and a totally blank Start menu fight for focus, with the Start menu winning 99.999% of the time.

I'll do some more testing with DX10/11 stuff. Can anyone else chime in with their experiences with this?
 
Mr. Bluntman said:
They aren't kidding about the fullscreen game bug. So far it seems DX9 stuff is the most affected. The game and a totally blank Start menu fight for focus, with the Start menu winning 99.999% of the time.

I'll do some more testing with DX10/11 stuff. Can anyone else chime in with their experiences with this?
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In 10061 and 10049 I had this bug in various games - WoW, GTAV, Old Republic, just name it. It was a very strange bug - when alt tabbed from fullscreen, nothing was worked on the desktop, but if you'd click the game icon on taskbar, you'd return to it without any problems, and you could still play.

Also it did not appear after 1st alt-tab. It sometimes took 3 or 4 before freezing. And most likely it would freeze, when you had anything launched apart the game, and in active window, especially if you had opened mail or browser.

Right now done some testing with 10074, and it looks like it's solved - at least partially. Some tabs in Edge/IE do not respond when you alt-tab from game - especially twitter has problems with that. The tab with it freezes and has to be closed. Some other tabs (especially those updated in real time) get frozen too, but you can just kill them, and system is working.
 
MorgothPl said:
In 10061 and 10049 I had this bug in various games - WoW, GTAV, Old Republic, just name it. It was a very strange bug - when alt tabbed from fullscreen, nothing was worked on the desktop, but if you'd click the game icon on taskbar, you'd return to it without any problems, and you could still play.

Also it did not appear after 1st alt-tab. It sometimes took 3 or 4 before freezing. And most likely it would freeze, when you had anything launched apart the game, and in active window, especially if you had opened mail or browser.

Right now done some testing with 10074, and it looks like it's solved - at least partially. Some tabs in Edge/IE do not respond when you alt-tab from game - especially twitter has problems with that. The tab with it freezes and has to be closed. Some other tabs (especially those updated in real time) get frozen too, but you can just kill them, and system is working.
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Havent experienced any of that personally. After playing FC3 and Alan Wake it seems like it is indeed DX9 titles that are afflicted by fullscreen bug. Will do some more testing in the coming days.
 
I am on slow but it auto updated regardless. It looks good, works good so far.
They moved a few things around and I had to change the task bar color from default
black to something else, otherwise nothing appears to have changed.
Weather does not allow you to change where you are, it goes by where your ISP is from so for me
it's close but not correct.
 
I absolutely hate it, still too much like Win 8 with kiddy type colours schemes and mobile phone interface.
Had a hell of a time trying to get it to load too.
Went on a clean secure wiped SSD but on initial load went immediately to a repair loop. Went through the diagnosis a couple of times and was about to secure wipe the SSD again when it finally booted cleanly.
Waste of a couple hours of my life going through a frustrating exercise for what?

I am seriously thinking I've had it with windows and it's time to make a break to one of the Linux OS's
I took Mint 17.01 off the SSD to run this 10 crap and if I wasn't so committed with all my software with 7 I'd give all MS stuff the flick in a heartbeat.
What is wrong with those morons in MS? why are they so persistent in p!$$ing people off?
 
'Hi what's up' on a professional OS is a disgrace, trying to copy Apple and appeal to cool crowd?

Combined cortana search and start menu doesn't really work either.

I had hopes it'd be a real improvement over 8, this is just cosmetic nonsense.
 
MrCrispy said:
'Hi what's up' on a professional OS is a disgrace, trying to copy Apple and appeal to cool crowd?

Combined cortana search and start menu doesn't really work either.

I had hopes it'd be a real improvement over 8, this is just cosmetic nonsense.
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Heh, MS:s ability to break the search never ceases to amaze me. When a 3rd party couple of kb app can do search faster and more efficiently than MS, something's wrong.
 
thats one ugly fat titlebar on that window.

Am I right the ability to shrink the side of that titlebar is gone in win8 and newer?
 
Gave it a go yesterday. While lots of things are running well, the Start Menu still feels half-baked. The configuration options seem to still be missing, folders aren't all working the way I wanted, and it loves to keep popping back up at random. It feels like the Window 8.1 "All Programs" screen skinned into a menu...which is actually less helpful than having all of them at a glance.
The new Nvidia drivers help, and performance is pretty solid for games, but it kept messing with my color and gamma settings. Seemingly every game was a totally different gamma.
I used an image to go back to Windows 8.1, but it wasn't bad. If they can give me some more options to configure the Start Menu and give me a better video driver I can see myself swapping over before the RTM.
 
raglafart said:
I absolutely hate it, still too much like Win 8 with kiddy type colours schemes and mobile phone interface.
Had a hell of a time trying to get it to load too.
Went on a clean secure wiped SSD but on initial load went immediately to a repair loop. Went through the diagnosis a couple of times and was about to secure wipe the SSD again when it finally booted cleanly.
Waste of a couple hours of my life going through a frustrating exercise for what?

I am seriously thinking I've had it with windows and it's time to make a break to one of the Linux OS's
I took Mint 17.01 off the SSD to run this 10 crap and if I wasn't so committed with all my software with 7 I'd give all MS stuff the flick in a heartbeat.
What is wrong with those morons in MS? why are they so persistent in p!$$ing people off?
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I agree although it works good and I've not had any crashes it still has too much of a 8 look in form and function.

Really all they need to do is tweak how 7 looks just a bit, make it a tad more modern without going overboard and of course keep the updated kernal/guts the way it is.
 
Start menu doesn't open half the time, settings and search are unreliable, what the bloody hell have they been doing for 6 months, its barely improved and I bet they'll ship an unfinished alpha at RTM and patch it over next year. Shameful.
 
I bet they do not ship an unfinished alpha and then patch it over the next year. They are not stupid and they know they have only one chance to make a good first impression. (Doing the public beta this way is a risk but the rewards outweigh them despite the minority on this board.)

Also, I am liking the way the Windows 10 is starting to look. I really do not care for the most part about appearance. However, I still enjoy when something does appear good. Of course, I thought the Amiga 2.04 OS and OS/2 Warp 3 looked great and better than Windows 7 in many ways.
 
MS has already said Windows 10 will ship with unfinished features and those will be added as they plan to keep updating it constantly.

Whether you call it adding features or fixing issues they knew about is purely semantics at this point.

Most of the major features have already been postponed if they were ever intended at all, time is being spent on trivial nonsense like the fonts, icons, start menu transparency, visual tweaks etc.

You still can't choose a custom color theme, the whole thing gets worse with every release.
 
MrCrispy said:
MS has already said Windows 10 will ship with unfinished features and those will be added as they plan to keep updating it constantly.

Whether you call it adding features or fixing issues they knew about is purely semantics at this point.

Most of the major features have already been postponed if they were ever intended at all, time is being spent on trivial nonsense like the fonts, icons, start menu transparency, visual tweaks etc.

You still can't choose a custom color theme, the whole thing gets worse with every release.
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What you said here and what you said above are two different things. Adding features and fixing issues are two entirely different things, no semantics about it. They will not release a buggy, unstable OS since they know they only have one chance to make a good first impression.

As I said before, releasing the beta OS for testing is a risk as shown by your comments. But beta does not equal release. (This is not a videogame from EA, Ubisoft or Activision.) Oh, and do you have a source for your Microsoft comment? I would like to read it myself.
 
Let me tweak the Start menu (like with 7 and earlier) by right clicking and dragging programs around and I'd be happy. Let me choose how things are arranged and displayed. I don't like how the Metro apps are treated like completely separate entities.
 
Strat menu doesn't work for me, nor spartan.

I'll reinstall and see what happens.
 
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